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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:04:22 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Am 2007-03-19 18:18:46, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:04:52 -0400, Roberto wrote in message >> > Of course, this raises the following question: >> > >> > "If Allah is all powerful, why could he

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/07 15:28, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] > > As to the respect for all Prophets, 'the Prophet' always means > Mohammed. Mohammed is the last in a sequence of prophets, not merely > the most recent. There will be no more prophets, according to t

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:04:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-02-28 14:28:41, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact one > > > of the four (I th

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:04:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-02-28 14:28:41, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > > > > > Of course, as I have pointed out, Jesus said (on more than one occasion) > > that he, in fact, was one with God the Father. According to Islam, that > > is the worst k

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Am 2007-03-19 18:18:46, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:04:52 -0400, Roberto wrote in message > > Of course, this raises the following question: > > > > "If Allah is all powerful, why could he not preserve his original > > revelation? Why did he have to give it again?" > > ..

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Am 2007-02-28 14:28:41, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact one > > of the four (I think) major prophets of Islam. And the Shia believe > > that he will return

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:04:52 -0400, Roberto wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 11:36:28PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > The Muslims also believe that all prophets before Mohammed were > > misunderstood by their followers, so that the true teachings of (for > > inst

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On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 11:36:28PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > The Muslims also believe that all prophets before Mohammed were > misunderstood by their followers, so that the true teachings of (for > instance) Moses and Jesus (Issa) are found only in the Koran. > Of course, this raises the follow

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On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 08:23:33PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact one > >> of the four (I think) major prophets of Islam. And

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On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 08:23:33PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact one > >> of the four (I think) major prophets of Islam. And

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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact one >> of the four (I think) major prophets of Islam. And the Shia believe >> that he will return (along with another prophet)

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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:36:36 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/04/07 20:25, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > .._amen_ to that, look at W and the US. ;o) > > Bashing W at every turn makes you look *really* juvenile. ..what???

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 20:25, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:10:35 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/25/07 16:30, Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Michael Pobega wrote: E

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:10:35 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/25/07 16:30, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> Everyone has their own belief, and let it be that way. > > > > I'd rather not. Personally

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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:32:41 +1300, Chris wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:35:57PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > the US is arguably one of the most prosperous nations in the world. > > I think that it is right for us to render humanitarian aid to other > >

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:48:13PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/28/07 22:14, Marc Shapiro wrote: > >> > > Precisely. The ROMANS crucified Jesus, NOT the Jews. > > Of course, because they were the ones in power. > > *Certain* Jews, ones who owed their power to the Romans and who were > th

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 22:14, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/28/07 09:17, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:54:51AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/28/07 08:13, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at

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Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 09:17, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:54:51AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/28/07 08:13, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:50:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:34:37PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:26:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > physics: > > > > http://www.motionmountain.net/ > > > > cool thanks You are very welcome. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 04:37:06PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:46:15PM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe > > > to the gravitational potential energy (which happen

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:26:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > physics: > > http://www.motionmountain.net/ > cool thanks A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:46:15PM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe > > to the gravitational potential energy (which happens to be negative), > > that the sum of the two is "suspiciously close to zero"

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe > to the gravitational potential energy (which happens to be negative), > that the sum of the two is "suspiciously close to zero" (to quota a > famous physicist whose name I can't remember). Hmm, the u

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:10:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 28 Feb, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> > > Of course, as I have pointed out, Jesus said (on more than one > > occasion) that he, in fact, was one with God the Father. According to > > Islam, that is the worst kind of blasphem

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On 28 Feb, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact >> one of the four (I think) major prophets of Islam. And the Shia >> believe that he will return (along with another

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:05:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Actually, Muslims teach that Jesus was a true prophet, in fact one > of the four (I think) major prophets of Islam. And the Shia believe > that he will return (along with another prophet) at the end times to > set thing r

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On 27 Feb, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> So, if you believe Jesus, then the others *must* be wrong (excepting >> the OT Jews, which were under The Law). > > Unless, of course, you're Muslim where it is taught Jesus was a > false prophet. Quite a common theme, actually. >

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:04:28AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:46:21AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Just where did Jesus claim to be God? I've heard lost of people say > > that Jesus was God, but I haven't seen the place where Jesus himself > > claim

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:40:55AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe ... > > It is my understanding that physicists don't know how much matter is in > the universe. They don't see enough to account for what'

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:50:46AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/28/07 09:40, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:29:30AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> I'm surprised that you repeat the "the Jews killed Jesus" fallacy. > >> > > OK. My mistake. The Jews just effectively t

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 09:40, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:29:30AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> I'm surprised that you repeat the "the Jews killed Jesus" fallacy. >> > OK. My mistake. The Jews just effectively threatened to riot agains

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:29:30AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I'm surprised that you repeat the "the Jews killed Jesus" fallacy. > OK. My mistake. The Jews just effectively threatened to riot against the Roman rulers if *they* didn't crucify him. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez h

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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Just where did Jesus claim to be God? I've heard lost of people say > that Jesus was God, but I haven't seen the place where Jesus himself > claims it. > > -- hendrik I think the clearest place is in the Gospel According to St. John:

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 09:17, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:54:51AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/28/07 08:13, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:50:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [snip] >>> he at least

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:54:51AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/28/07 08:13, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:50:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > he at least did exist. One maintains that he *is* God. I'm not sure > > about Jewish history and whether

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 08:13, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:50:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > he at least did exist. One maintains that he *is* God. I'm not sure > about Jewish history and whether they even acknowledge hi

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the output of the Jesus Seminar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar See "Criticism of...". -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe ... It is my understanding that physicists don't know how much matter is in the universe. They don't see enough to account for what's needed in their cosmological theories, and therefore they throw

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 05:32, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:35:57PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> the US is arguably one of the most prosperous nations in the world. I >> think that it is right for us to render humanitarian aid to oth

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:50:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Actually, the can't all be right: > > > > "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man > > cometh unto the Father, but by me." -- John 14:6 > > In the output of the Jesus Seminar, this line is

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:50:39PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:26:53AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > Not necessarily, they can all be right: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_the_Wise > > > > Actually, the can't all be right: > > "Jesus sait

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 07:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:19:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> 1. "God has always been." >>> >>> 2. "All matter/energy Just Appeared." >

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 05:19, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> 1. "God has always been." >> >> 2. "All matter/energy Just Appeared." >> >> Which is more fantastical? >> >> Even I, an atheist, think that #2 i

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:46:21AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Just where did Jesus claim to be God? I've heard lost of people say > that Jesus was God, but I haven't seen the place where Jesus himself > claims it. > "Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the truth, and the life: no m

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 01:38:15AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:01:46PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Correct. So, according to the Bible, the Muslims are just as wrong > > > anyone else. > > > > Missed the point there, Roberto.

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On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:19:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > 1. "God has always been." > > > > 2. "All matter/energy Just Appeared." It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe to the gravitational p

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On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:32:41AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:35:57PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > the US is arguably one of the most prosperous nations in the world. I > > think that it is right for us to render humanitarian aid to other > > nations when we

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:35:57PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > the US is arguably one of the most prosperous nations in the world. I > think that it is right for us to render humanitarian aid to other > nations when we can. This is generally done through deployments of the > military (Soma

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > 1. "God has always been." > > 2. "All matter/energy Just Appeared." > > Which is more fantastical? > > Even I, an atheist, think that #2 is more fantastical. Maybe you're agnostic? -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:01:46PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Correct. So, according to the Bible, the Muslims are just as wrong > > anyone else. > > Missed the point there, Roberto. According to the Quran *you* are just as > wrong as anyone else. > OK. You ar

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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Correct. So, according to the Bible, the Muslims are just as wrong > anyone else. Missed the point there, Roberto. According to the Quran *you* are just as wrong as anyone else. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key:

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:21:58PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > So, if you believe Jesus, then the others *must* be wrong (excepting the > > OT Jews, which were under The Law). > > Unless, of course, you're Muslim where it is taught Jesus was a false > prophet. Qu

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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > So, if you believe Jesus, then the others *must* be wrong (excepting the > OT Jews, which were under The Law). Unless, of course, you're Muslim where it is taught Jesus was a false prophet. Quite a common theme, actually. -- Steve C. Lamb | But

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:26:53AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Not necessarily, they can all be right: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_the_Wise > Actually, the can't all be right: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:19:01 +0530 Vibhav Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan H. wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > > >> When the Bible says something, I believe it. > >> > > > > Isn't that a bit silly? After all, the Bible is a collection of > > stories, > Also in support o

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:06 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 01:53, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:04:39 -0500 > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:40:25

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:13:23PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:24:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:40:03PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > > > I've only used Mu

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:40:03PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive things with my time than learn random acronyms. But thanks for filling

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:24:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:40:03PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive > > > things with my tim

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:08:23PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > He > > claims that religious people are stupid and basically use ancient texts > > are a crutch. > > Well, don't you? I mean you cherry pick the nice bits and reject the > nasty. > > > Nevermind tha

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:40:03PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive > > things with my time than learn random acronyms. But thanks for filling > > me in, that's one I'

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:14:59AM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > Please, don't assume you know what I went through and what I saw. I've > seen families ruined because of fundamentalist misguided views. > I assumed nothing about what you through beyond what you stated. > > Roberto, you believe what

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:03:39AM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:55:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > > > FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. > > None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to >

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 03:40, Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> You do realize I was being sarcastic, right? > > Yup. Best time to butt in. :-) OK, just wanted to make sure. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFF5C4hS9HxQb37XmcRAsx

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Ron Johnson wrote: > Thus, atheism *by itself* won't bring about a reasonable society. Neither will any religion (or anything at all, for that matter). --D. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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> You do realize I was being sarcastic, right? Yup. Best time to butt in. :-) - Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:38, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to live. >>> FW

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Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. > >> None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to > >> live. > > FWIW, there is a big difference between being raised in a born again > > family and being bor

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:55:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: >> FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. >> None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:55:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. > None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to > live. > FWIW, there is a big difference between being raised in a born again family and be

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:02:54PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > Stephen wrote: > > Really ? I took a quick look and couldn't find anything over 5 minute > > trailers for it. > > > Would you have an URL handy ? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMiAwe6TAYM will get you to part 2. I

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Stephen wrote: > Really ? I took a quick look and couldn't find anything over 5 minute > trailers for it. > Would you have an URL handy ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMiAwe6TAYM will get you to part 2. I think there's 6 parts and all should be in the play list associated with that URL. --

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:08:37AM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > Excellent examination of early Christianity and the lack of corroborating > historical record of Jesus: > http://www.thegodmovie.com/index.php Hi Steve: Looks quite interesting ! > It is available in it's entire

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 15:55, Paul Johnson wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >>> ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure before Russia

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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> > ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure >> > before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? >> >> Everybody. When has any country having b

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:22:27PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:24:26PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably > >> > >

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 06:24:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 17:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also > >> ressurect the one asking for so-called header mungi

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:38:02PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > > Perhaps I should just unsubscribe from the debian, and fedora lists. There > > seems to be less of this sort of crap on forums. At least they are > > moderated. > > But you don't get the expertise. Forums t

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Nigel Henry wrote: > Goodness knows what someone trawling the archives looking for > answers will think. Better than you. Google has this remarkable way of going directly to the answer whenever I search Google with the keyword "site:lists.debian.org" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

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Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Who gives a shit about politics, and what the hell has it it got to do >> > with the debian mailing list??? >> It's the Debian *USER* list, not the *DEBIAN* User list. As has been >> discussed several times every time a long

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 17:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also >> ressurect the one asking for so-called header munging, so people can >> j

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Tyler MacDonald wrote: > However, this proves the value of having a designated OT list signficantly > guys: Here is someone subscribed to the very mailing list that supposed to > help him learn more about debian, who is currently powerless to avoid the > OT spam that's coming along with it (and cu

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:34 -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> IANADD, but I would like to see something get going with this soon... >> what >> is the procedure? Does a debian developer "sponsor" the mailing list? Is >> there some sort of vote that has to happen? > > See

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:38:02PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > But you don't get the expertise. Forums tend to attract the new users who > don't have the long term experience as experienced users are often offput > by the reliability and usability issues presented from brain damaged web > foru

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 17:09, Mike McCarty wrote: Tyler MacDonald wrote: Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also ressurect the one asking for so-called header m

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:24:26PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably >> > >better >> > > than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go ov

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Nigel Henry wrote: > On Sunday 25 February 2007 19:39, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Max Hyre wrote: >> >Ladies and gentlemen: >> > >> > >> >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better >> > than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to >> > [EMAIL P

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > > While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also > ressurect the one asking for so-called header munging, so people can > just reply like to other lists, instead of having to reply-all and then > delete the OP? > Oh

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 17:09, Mike McCarty wrote: > Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [snip] > While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also > ressurect the one asking for so-called header munging, so people

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

Tyler MacDonald wrote: Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list But does a debian-user-ot (or whatever) mailing list need to be hosted at debian.org? I think so; otherwise off-topic stuff will still end up in the help list... and ha

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long > > > morning of churning out widgets. We all get

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > But they're still atheists. They don't believe in God, they believe > in Stalin or Mao, or whomever. > > Thus, atheism *by itself* won't bring about a reasonable society. I think those folks sought to be viewed somewhat as deities, themselves, thereby rem

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning > > of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other > > for a while before g

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:20:09PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:56:51PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:46:30 +0100 > > Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list > > > > > > But does

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:48:08PM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 02/25/07 16:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > [snip] > > > Do yo

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:34:30PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > > > > I qualify as one of the "brand spanking new members" and I say I have > > not laughed so hard in a long time. Keep the OT stuff going > > > Welcome! > >

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> > >> Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Not to sound stupid, but how does one use this ignore thread feature? so I went looking for how to do this in mutt, without great results. But I found *this* very thread on the first page of google hits! Go figure. anyway, this htt

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning > of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other > for a while before getting back to work. It keeps the interest up for > those of us who sp

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:53:01PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning > of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other > for a while before getting back to work. It keeps the interest up for > those of

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:50:16PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:37:29PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > > > Are you suggesting that instead of creating a debian "off topic" mailing > > list, we should create a debian-help list instead, specifically mandated o

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