Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 08:11:08AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 04:58:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > reading more about Gmail Smart Reply in > > > > https://www.blog.google/products/gmail/save-time-with-s

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 04:58:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > reading more about Gmail Smart Reply in > https://www.blog.google/products/gmail/save-time-with-smart-reply-in-gmail/ > i got a new theory: > > The AI learns from the user's mail habits to be able to propose three > quick

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Fungi4All
From: geo...@nsup.org >Le nonidi 19 thermidor, an CCXXV, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : >> Further, if this spam shall sneak through spam filters, why does nearly >> all of it bear that peculiar URL domain ? > >Because that is the URL that the spammer wants to advertise, of course. Not true, look closely

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 03:30:41PM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > >Clever. Yes, going by the headers, those seem genuine replies to spam. > > > The spam is crafted in a way (cc) that the reply lands here (for the > > spammer, this distribution channel is w

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Fungi4All
>Clever. Yes, going by the headers, those seem genuine replies to spam. > The spam is crafted in a way (cc) that the reply lands here (for the > spammer, this distribution channel is what they want). The Goozim > bit seems compelling :) > Cheers > -- t I am confident that the reply is the spam, b

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 04:58:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > reading more about Gmail Smart Reply in > https://www.blog.google/products/gmail/save-time-with-smart-reply-in-gmail/ > i got a new theory: > > The AI learns from the user's

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread John Hasler
Nicolas George writes: > Debian's are part of the few tech mailing-lists that I know that are not > moderated for posts by non-users. It's also one of the few that are publically-archived with no obfuscation of email addresses. I doubt that spammers utilize any fiedish schemes to attack debian-us

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, reading more about Gmail Smart Reply in https://www.blog.google/products/gmail/save-time-with-smart-reply-in-gmail/ i got a new theory: The AI learns from the user's mail habits to be able to propose three quick replies in the personal writing style of the user. If you annoy the AI from out

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 03:56:35PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Your Occam's razor is definitely blunted. These mails are spams > masquerading as legitimate answers to bypass automated filters and catch > the reader's attention, nothing more. That is the simplest explanation, > consistent

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 10:35:56PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Seems there's a fair bit of responding to what is evidently spam, so > perhaps it's been a while since an old-hand explained these ropes: The person having responded "stop" to that mai

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 thermidor, an CCXXV, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > This theory does not explain why it is so focused on debian-user, > where it is very unlikely to find a receptive audience. Debian's are part of the few tech mailing-lists that I know that are not moderated for posts by non-users. > Fur

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > Well, I have never seen any hint of that kind of feature. As for sprit of our days: https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/17/google-brings-smart-replies-to-gmail-on-ios-and-android/ https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/26/16000562/easilydo-edison-mail-app-email-smart-reply-

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 thermidor, an CCXXV, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > No. But it would match the spirit of our days and it would explain > why we see erratic replies to slimy but quite redundant originals. Well, I have never seen any hint of that kind of feature. Therefore, until somebody produces evidence

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > Do you have any evidence that this kind of button exists? No. But it would match the spirit of our days and it would explain why we see erratic replies to slimy but quite redundant originals. Also, many of the replies bear the signatures of mobile devices which are mo

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 thermidor, an CCXXV, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > Open question is whether there are > humans who press a Go-Away button on their smart phones or whether these > replies are part of the spam scheme. Do you have any evidence that this kind of button e

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > - Debian's lists are very well spam-protected Not that well, given that this strange stuff gets through since weeks although it could be easily recognized by the peculiar URL, which you quoted, too. > - The one or two that get through, is incredibly low in volume

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/6/17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Seems there's a fair bit of responding to what is evidently spam, so > perhaps it's been a while since an old-hand explained these ropes: > > < snipped to get straight to the targeted point > > > - Actually responding to such spam emails, e.g. "stop", "what do

Re: RE : ... blah lbah blah ... spam

2017-08-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Seems there's a fair bit of responding to what is evidently spam, so perhaps it's been a while since an old-hand explained these ropes: - Debian's lists are very well spam-protected - the (extremely) few spam emails that gets through, are incredibly low in volume, compared to wh