Re: t-dsl

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, first of all, you want to assign the user an address via DHCP, > or else it's an administrative nightmare. You can use Radius, LDAP-based solutions and surley much more. With PPPoE there are even more possibilities to hack IP-addresses then with

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:34:08AM -0600, Arthur H. Edwards wrote: > I'm a bit confused. On a normal dial-up I have been using PPP and do > have a static IP address. If ADSL is using PPP what about DSL prevents > PPP from doing the same thing? Dialup is point-to-point, hence the natural applicatio

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:06:42PM +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Smart people *can* get IPs that haven't been assigned to them, and > > it's a PITA to root them out. PPPoE, while a hack, addresses this > > concern for providers. I wish we used it.

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-03 Thread Christian Brandt
"Arthur H. Edwards" wrote: > I'm a bit confused. On a normal dial-up I have been using PPP and do > have a static IP address. If ADSL is using PPP what about DSL prevents > PPP from doing the same thing? actually its up to the radius or router of the isp to supply an ip. They can use a fixed ip

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-02 Thread Arthur H. Edwards
I'm a bit confused. On a normal dial-up I have been using PPP and do have a static IP address. If ADSL is using PPP what about DSL prevents PPP from doing the same thing? --  Arthur H. Edwards AFRL/VSSE Bldg. 914 3550 Aberdeen Ave SE KAFB, NM 87117-5776  

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-02 Thread Christian Brandt
Stefan Nobis wrote: > > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Smart people *can* get IPs that haven't been assigned to them, and > > it's a PITA to root them out. PPPoE, while a hack, addresses this > > concern for providers. I wish we used it. > > Tell me more about this. What abo

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Smart people *can* get IPs that haven't been assigned to them, and > it's a PITA to root them out. PPPoE, while a hack, addresses this > concern for providers. I wish we used it. Tell me more about this. What about configuring the routers only to ro

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 03:56:35AM -0500, Sean Richardson wrote: > ... Apparently some of their initial customers > were setting up home networks and not masking the machines behind a > router(of whatever sort) and so their machines were each grabbing an IP > address. This was quickly eating up the

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-01 Thread Sean Richardson
A friend of mine asked his provider (SWBell) the same question when they thrust the PPPoe software into his hands and made him use it for his connection. They said that they had started using it because it provided easier administration of accounts...tracking and such...and because it limited the

Re: t-dsl

2000-08-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Linux Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This may sound like a silly question, but what is the > use/purpose of PPP over Ethernet? Why is it better than setting up a > connection with ifconfig eth0? It's not better, it's very silly. But there are reasons. The one used here in germany: Mos

Re: t-dsl

2000-07-31 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:16:32AM +0200, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:12:18 +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: > > >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:04:45 -0300, Linux Newbie writes: > >>This may sound like a silly question, but what is the > >>use/purpose of PPP over Ethernet? Why is it

Re: t-dsl

2000-07-31 Thread Ralf G. R. Bergs
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:12:18 +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:04:45 -0300, Linux Newbie writes: >> This may sound like a silly question, but what is the >>use/purpose of PPP over Ethernet? Why is it better than setting up a >>connection with ifconfig eth0? > >Afaik Deutsch

Re: t-dsl

2000-07-31 Thread brian moore
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 08:12:18AM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:04:45 -0300, Linux Newbie writes: > > This may sound like a silly question, but what is the > >use/purpose of PPP over Ethernet? Why is it better than setting up a > >connection with ifconfig eth0? > > Afa

Re: t-dsl

2000-07-31 Thread Robert Waldner
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:04:45 -0300, Linux Newbie writes: > This may sound like a silly question, but what is the >use/purpose of PPP over Ethernet? Why is it better than setting up a >connection with ifconfig eth0? Afaik Deutsche Telekom uses PPPoE for authentication/billing purposes, so he

Re: t-dsl

2000-07-31 Thread Linux Newbie
On Jul 30 2000, Mithrandir wrote: > Ich have a question too all of you, concerning t-dsl. Where can I > get a Kernel-patch for the pppoE (it would be nice, if it is for > 2.3.99, but if not no problem (I hope)). This may sound like a silly question, but what is the use/purpose of PPP over

Re: t-dsl

2000-07-30 Thread Jens Müller
afaik ppoe is a standard kernel module. Maybe there are also some packages. Your Denglish is quite good ;-) Jens - Original Message - From: "Mithrandir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:13 PM Subject: t-dsl

RE: t-dsl

2000-07-30 Thread Pollywog
On 30-Jul-2000 Mithrandir wrote: > Hi All ;) > > Ich have a question too all of you, concerning t-dsl. Where can I get a > Kernel-patch for the pppoE (it would be nice, if it is for 2.3.99, but if > not > no problem (I hope)). I use Roaring Penguin for DSL, but you can get patches for PPP 2.4.x