On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:30:46AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 15:15, will trillich wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:02:09AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > Hal Vaughan wrote: Alchemists had three generally accepted
> [snip]
> > > Is there a parallel to alchemy in the m
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 04:57:28PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> > In America, we say, "Those who can, do. Those that can't, teach."
>
> An interesting retcon. That's a quote from George Bernard Shaw, an
> Irishman, who also said: "Americans
Em Dom, 2003-02-09 às 09:32, Paul Johnson escreveu:
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 05:01:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > I'm not entirely convinced of this, to be honest with you. If we were
> > > talking the RA and RCA in northern Europe, you're right. But even
> > > then, the RCA and RA was lea
Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 14:11, Pigeon wrote:
And apparently Delaware's department of transportation is either
stupid or insane or both...
http://www.state.de.us/research/register/september2000/signing%20and%20marking.revised---V-1-12.gif
[fixed the URL]
You know, I wa
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 14:11, Pigeon wrote:
> > And apparently Delaware's department of transportation is either
> > stupid or insane or both...
> > http://www.state.de.us/research/register/september2000/signing and
>marking.revised---V-1-12.gif
You know, I was perfectly content ignoring this thr
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:59:18PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:33:44PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:03:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > s/geosynchronous/geostationary
> >
> > I claim 1:41am exemption. :-)
>
> I'm not sure that counts, you us
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:36:13PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:55:15PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> > In Bedford there is a rather daft roundabout laid out like this:
> >
> >| | Ashburnham Rd
> >| |
> > ___/ \__
> > __ /
>
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:13:58AM -0500, David P James wrote:
> Pigeon wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:18:14PM -0500, David P James wrote:
> >
> >>I'll give you a difference: liquidity. There are also differing degrees
> >>of transferability and risk associated with all the forms of assets t
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:51:12AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 00:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> > Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> [snip]
> > >From a logic class many years ago:
> >
> > "All Volvo drivers are liberal,
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Paul Johnson wrote:
> use an ATM card with pin number. No, I'm not sure what currency the
> ATM is talking about when it reads off your account balance, either,
I live in Canada.
Whenever I've done this in the US in PA/NY area, it has given me the
remaining withdrawal I can
On 08 Feb 2003 12:10:20 -0600,
DvB wrote:
>
> Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > DvB wrote:
[...]
> > Where did anything about taxes? You implied that investors
> > did not deserve dividends, since they didn't make their
> > money. There was no reference to taxation.
>
> This whol
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:09:37AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> I remember reading about that somewhere. I think it's a very good idea,
> provided you can get the income from other sources (as Oregon appears to
> be doing without too much trouble).
Actually, no. We're really, really screwed since the cons
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 11:48:25AM -0500, JOSEPH A NAGY JR wrote:
> Listen here you MUA Nazi, not all of use USE a seperate MUA to check
You lose.
> their mail (either voluntarily or neccessity), so going on about "any
> real MUA" is rather elitist and degrading.
Sounds like a personal proble
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 03:29:19 -0800
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:26:32AM -0800, John wrote:
Now can this F**KING thread end? :)
Intentional invocations don't count. You have to wait for it to come
up in the course of conversation, which it's getting *dange
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:53:26AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > > As far as "essential goods", who decides this?
> > >
> >
> > The commonwealth of Pennsylvania currently (unless things have changed
> > since I last heard) doesn't tax goods classified as "foo"
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:32, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > By RA, you mean RAF?
>
> Royal Army, not Air Force.
Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, Royal Marines but not Royal Army. It's
just The Army or the British Army. Perhaps because each regiment has
its separate traditions, whereas the navy and the air
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 08:51, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 00:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> > Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> [snip]
> > >From a logic class many years ago:
> >
> > "All Volvo drivers are liberal, but not all
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 05:01:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > I'm not entirely convinced of this, to be honest with you. If we were
> > talking the RA and RCA in northern Europe, you're right. But even
> > then, the RCA and RA was leading us into battle (not that this is a
> > bad thing, the R
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:26:32AM -0800, John wrote:
> Now can this F**KING thread end? :)
Intentional invocations don't count. You have to wait for it to come
up in the course of conversation, which it's getting *dangerously*
close to doing so already. I think it's going to take a master of
d
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 02:54, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 12:39:24AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > And at that, Canadian Forces are basically the British Forces but
> > > flying the Red Ensign instead. I took history from a US perspective,
> > > and I still see that the British
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 12:30:57AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:24:22AM -0500, Geordie Birch wrote:
> > I thought so too, but no bank in Arcata would touch it if I didn't have an
> > account. This was in 1995.
>
> What do you expect? It's a state that's been 0wnz3d by
Now can this F**KING thread end? :)
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On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 00:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> >On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
[snip]
> >From a logic class many years ago:
>
> "All Volvo drivers are liberal, but not all liberals drive Volvos."
Hey, I resent that!! If they still m
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 12:39:24AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > And at that, Canadian Forces are basically the British Forces but
> > flying the Red Ensign instead. I took history from a US perspective,
> > and I still see that the British more than held thier own. America
>
> If the US hadn't
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 00:24, Geordie Birch wrote:
> said Ron Johnson (on 2003-02-08),
>
> > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:21, Geordie Birch wrote:
> > > said David P James (on 2003-02-08),
> > >
> > > > Travis Crump wrote:
> > > > > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, G
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 12:25:10AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
[re: Socialisation of airport security being a Good Thing(tm)]
> Either that, or rationalisation.
It's usually synonymous, Canada is a prime example why (voted best
country to live in seven years in a row by the United Nations isn't
some
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:24:22AM -0500, Geordie Birch wrote:
> I thought so too, but no bank in Arcata would touch it if I didn't have an
> account. This was in 1995.
What do you expect? It's a state that's been 0wnz3d by Wells Fargo, a
bank known for screwing people attempting to use it's ser
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 04:21:55PM -0500, Geordie Birch wrote:
> And I can spend my Canadian dollars in Canada, but good luck trying to get
> rid of them in a town like Arcata California, or Berkeley even. US
> dollars on the other hand can be used with no problems in many small
> retail outlets i
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 00:04, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> > My dictionary (American Heritage College Dictionary) sz they're
> > synonyms. Save your valuable exemption for a real error :)
>
> And American Heritage Dictionary also screws up th
Paul Johnson wrote:
>On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
>> My dictionary (American Heritage College Dictionary) sz they're
>> synonyms. Save your valuable exemption for a real error :)
>
>And American Heritage Dictionary also screws up the definition of
>"hacker," giving
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 22:58, David P James wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:12, David P James wrote:
> >
> >>Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:18, David P James wrote:
[snip]
> Contraire is correct :)
Thanks.
> That's true in one sense but not in other
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:55:15PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> In Bedford there is a rather daft roundabout laid out like this:
>
>| | Ashburnham Rd
> | |
> ___/ \__
> __ /
> Car __ O <- the roundabout
> park \___
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 23:58, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:17:40PM -0500, David P James wrote:
> > The Americans liberated Continental Europe. But they did not save
> > Britain. Arguably Canada did, but not the United States.
>
> And at that, Canadian Forces are basically the B
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 23:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:27:42PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > I wonder if the old ones were fired? Would adequate pay have attracted
> > competent workers in the 1st place? We'll never know...
>
> Not necissarily. The old ones working for pr
said Ron Johnson (on 2003-02-08),
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:21, Geordie Birch wrote:
> > said David P James (on 2003-02-08),
> >
> > > Travis Crump wrote:
> > > > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> [snip]
> > And I can spend my Canadian dollars i
Pigeon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:18:14PM -0500, David P James wrote:
I'll give you a difference: liquidity. There are also differing degrees
of transferability and risk associated with all the forms of assets that
you've listed. I can't just use the tokens anywhere; they are probably
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> My dictionary (American Heritage College Dictionary) sz they're
> synonyms. Save your valuable exemption for a real error :)
And American Heritage Dictionary also screws up the definition of
"hacker," giving it the meaning of "cracker
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:17:40PM -0500, David P James wrote:
> The Americans liberated Continental Europe. But they did not save
> Britain. Arguably Canada did, but not the United States.
And at that, Canadian Forces are basically the British Forces but
flying the Red Ensign instead. I took hi
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:33:44PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:03:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > s/geosynchronous/geostationary
>
> I claim 1:41am exemption. :-)
I'm not sure that counts, you usually keep pace with me all night
long. Don't you work the night shift, too
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:43:46AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Ya know, I've always wondered why Hitler declared war on us. We never
> did anything to him. He was fighting the Godless Communists, and a
> significant minority of Americans were anti-Semitic... The usual reason
> is that we declare
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:47:56PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> I got the impression that the level of training they received had a lot
> to do with it. They were polite, knew what they were doing and sort of
> had that "the customer's always right" attitude (or as much of it as a
> baggage ispector can hav
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:18:14PM -0500, David P James wrote:
> I'll give you a difference: liquidity. There are also differing degrees
> of transferability and risk associated with all the forms of assets that
> you've listed. I can't just use the tokens anywhere; they are probably
> only rede
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:27:42PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> I wonder if the old ones were fired? Would adequate pay have attracted
> competent workers in the 1st place? We'll never know...
Not necissarily. The old ones working for private security agencies
were given preferential hiring with
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:06:26PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> Last time I flew, I was actually very impressed with the competence of
> the baggage screeners relative to the old ones. I made comments to
> friends and family to that effect.
I'm not sure you'd be filled with joy in your work if you were stu
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:24:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> That's pretty darned bad! Maybe (a) your city's citizens haven't gotten
> fed up enough with the status quo, and (b) a viable reform candidate
> hasn't appeared yet. Here in N.O, it took some black men who were
> respected by the full
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:12, David P James wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:18, David P James wrote:
David,
You're missing the point, which is that "money", when it has no
intrinsic value (or backed by that which has intrinsic value, for
example, pr
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:53:26AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > As far as "essential goods", who decides this?
> >
>
> The commonwealth of Pennsylvania currently (unless things have changed
> since I last heard) doesn't tax goods classified as "foo" and
> "clothing." I support this despite the obvious d
Pigeon wrote:
>On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:42:50AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:41:01AM +, Pigeon wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:37:53PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
>> > > Pigeon writes:
>
>On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:03:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> s/
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:43:49PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> What *really* pisses me off is when I'm approaching a roundabout to go
> around it in the correct (anti-clockwise) direction, some asshole
> coming the other way or from the right thinks that they can cut off
> the roundabount clockwis
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:37:48AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:40:27AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > I love the liberals who have no qualms about sending the military to
> > important, strategic places like Somalia and Bosnia, cut the funding
> > for the military at
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:42:50AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:41:01AM +, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:37:53PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Pigeon writes:
> > > > It would be under tension, because the upper station is outside the
> > > > geosyn
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 10:57, Colin Watson wrote:
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
In America, we say, "Those who can, do. Those that can't, teach."
An interesting retcon. That's a quote from George Bernard Shaw, an
Irishman, who also said:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 10:57, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> > In America, we say, "Those who can, do. Those that can't, teach."
>
> An interesting retcon. That's a quote from George Bernard Shaw, an
> Irishman, who also said: "Americans adore me and
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:12, David P James wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:18, David P James wrote:
> >
> >>Travis Crump wrote:
> >>
>
> >>>
> >>>People and corporations produce their own money every day as well; have
> >>>you ever written a check? Try coming up with a
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:21, Geordie Birch wrote:
> said David P James (on 2003-02-08),
>
> > Travis Crump wrote:
> > > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote:
[snip]
> And I can spend my Canadian dollars in Canada, but good luck trying to get
> rid of them
said David P James (on 2003-02-08),
> Travis Crump wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe I'm missing something, but what are you talking about. People
> >> and corporations produce their own goods and services every day.
> >
> > Peo
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:18, David P James wrote:
Travis Crump wrote:
People and corporations produce their own money every day as well; have
you ever written a check? Try coming up with a difference between
checks, iou's, deeds, stock certificates, bonds, etc. and go
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:32, Geordie Birch wrote:
> said Ron Johnson (on 2003-02-08),
>
> > > you've listed. I can't just use the tokens anywhere; they are probably
> > > only redeemable at that particular arcade, though I might be able to
> > > sell them to another arcade-goer at par or at a disc
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:17, David P James wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ya know, I've always wondered why Hitler declared war on us. We never
> > did anything to him. He was fighting the Godless Communists, and a
> > significant minority of Americans were anti-Semitic... The usual re
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:06, DvB wrote:
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:55:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > Ummm, somehow I don't think that
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:00, DvB wrote:
[snip]
> Now, whether that means privatization or replacing the existing Civil
> Servants, must obviously be looked at on a case-by-case basis...
>
That I can agree with.
> > > And don't get me started about the
said Ron Johnson (on 2003-02-08),
> > you've listed. I can't just use the tokens anywhere; they are probably
> > only redeemable at that particular arcade, though I might be able to
> > sell them to another arcade-goer at par or at a discount.
or you could control the supply by hoarding them and
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:18, David P James wrote:
> Travis Crump wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>> eg. Actually, all goods and services come from the government...Try
> >>> producing your own goods and services.
> >>
> >>
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:06, DvB wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:55:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > Ummm, somehow I don't think that when W was inaugurated, he was planning
> > > > on ha
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 12:00, DvB wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:14, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > businesses behaving badly: Shape up or we take it.
> >
> > Things must be d
Ron Johnson wrote:
Ya know, I've always wondered why Hitler declared war on us. We never
did anything to him. He was fighting the Godless Communists, and a
significant minority of Americans were anti-Semitic... The usual reason
is that we declared war on Japan. Well, heck. He ignored treati
Travis Crump wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote:
[snip]
eg. Actually, all goods and services come from the government...Try
producing your own goods and services.
Maybe I'm missing something, but what are you talking about. People
and corporations pr
Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> DvB wrote:
>
> >Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> DvB wrote:
> >>
> >> >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:55:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > Ummm, somehow I don't think that when W was inaugurated, he was planning
> > > on having these new burdens placed on the Federal budget.
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:14, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
> > businesses behaving badly: Shape up or we take it.
>
> Things must be different up in Oregon, because, here, for instance, even
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:57, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> > In America, we say, "Those who can, do. Those that can't, teach."
>
> An interesting retcon. That's a quote from George Bernard Shaw, an
> Irishman, who also said: "Americans adore
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:17:16AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > > I assume you are in favor of a "progressive" income tax scale.
> > > Shouldn't other taxes such as payroll taxes (not the same as income
> > > taxes!), sales taxes, and even taxes on investment
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:59:12AM -0600, DvB wrote:
>
> If you want to have a debate, try to not put words into my mouth.
> Obviously I never said any such thing. I know I never thought it
> either, and I'm quite certain you don't know what I think.
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> In America, we say, "Those who can, do. Those that can't, teach."
An interesting retcon. That's a quote from George Bernard Shaw, an
Irishman, who also said: "Americans adore me and will go on adoring me
until I say something nice about the
On Friday 07 February 2003 17:19, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 10:29, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> > Mike M wrote:
> > > Socrates was stagnant and resting on his society's laurels? Good
> > > teaching inspires creativity.
> >
> > I didn't say Socrates was stagnant.
>
> Truly off topic, b
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 06:42:14AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Well, fortunately, conservatives think that the police & the military
> should always be under the control of the State...
Well, I don't think either side is allowed to take credit for common
sense.
--
.''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTEC
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 05:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:20:37AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > I think government pretty much mops up after the services that aren't
> > > "sexy" enough for private enterprise to think of it (rapid transit,
> > > police, fire) and should take c
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 15:15, will trillich wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:02:09AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > Hal Vaughan wrote: Alchemists had three generally accepted
[snip]
> > Is there a parallel to alchemy in the modern world?
>
> aids research, and cancer research, to name a few. th
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:28:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> You mentioned "Department of Homeland Security, with most of it in the
> Transportation Safety Administration". That would have happened with
> or without Iraq.
Yeah, and equally overkill.
> Oh, and btw, it was the Democrats pushing
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:20:37AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > I think government pretty much mops up after the services that aren't
> > "sexy" enough for private enterprise to think of it (rapid transit,
> > police, fire) and should take control of services everybody needs
>
> Ever heard of pri
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 04:29:52AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> What this has to do with user issues of implementing and maintaining a
> Debian GNU/Linux system, on whatever platform is selected, I would say
> has long been lost. From my days on Usenet, there are numerous areas
> where this discus
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 02:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:40:27AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > I love the liberals who have no qualms about sending the military to
> > important, strategic places like Somalia and Bosnia, cut the funding
> > for the military at the same time
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:57:29AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> >Considering the military accounts for over 40% of government spending,
> >I think we found a place to start trimming fat heavily. Especially if
> >our politicians are going to keep claiming we're a peace-loving
DvB wrote:
>Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> DvB wrote:
>>
>> >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >You don't "work hard" for stock dividends. You just put your money
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 02:28, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:16:31PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:46:12PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> > > Where the hell do you think the money came from? If an investor can't
> > > expect a return, why should he put
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:55:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Ummm, somehow I don't think that when W was inaugurated, he was planning
> > on having these new burdens placed on the Federal budget...
>
> Yeah, but that only accounts for the Afgh
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:14, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
> I think government pretty much mops up after the services that aren't
> "sexy" enough for private enterprise to think of it (rapid transit,
> police, fire) and should take contro
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:38:26AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> What I was originally objecting to was your seeming assertion that
> people with a lot of money (i.e. more money than you have) don't need
> or deserve it and thus the government should take it back.
Progressive taxing is a good id
Paul Johnson wrote:
>On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:40:36AM -0600, DvB wrote:
>> Once again, if cutting taxes is going to put the government $300B in the
>> hole, they need to cut some programs and I don't think there're many
>> that can be justified being cut.
>
>Considering the military accounts fo
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:17:16AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:51:25AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > > Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > DvB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:46:10AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:08:17PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > Haha, wow. I would love to see one of those on Cape Cod, where a
> > single, normal "rotary" can back up traffic all the way to Boston
> > (because most Americans ca
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:59:12AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:22:33AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:34:51PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > > > > "James Bucha
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:31:31AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > How much are the city/state/feds subsidizing TriMet?
> > >
> > > Right no
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:40:27AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> I love the liberals who have no qualms about sending the military to
> important, strategic places like Somalia and Bosnia, cut the funding
> for the military at the same time, and then raise holy hell when
> something goes wrong.
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:51:25AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > DvB wrote:
> > >
> > > >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked ha
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:22:33AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:34:51PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > > > "James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Famine victims
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:08:17PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Haha, wow. I would love to see one of those on Cape Cod, where a
> single, normal "rotary" can back up traffic all the way to Boston
> (because most Americans can't figure out how to drive in a circle,
> apparently).
s/in a circle//
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:18:47PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:40:36AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > Once again, if cutting taxes is going to put the government $300B in the
> > hole, they need to cut some programs and I don't think there're many
> > that can be justified being
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:08:17PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Haha, wow. I would love to see one of those on Cape Cod, where a
> single, normal "rotary" can back up traffic all the way to Boston
> (because most Americans can't figure out how to drive in a circle,
> apparently).
I always hated g
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