On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:55:38 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that the
>> installer does not recognize existing partitions already on the hard
>> disk? Or are
>> you saying that it won't let you create more tha
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-03-07 03:55, Cecil Knutson wrote:
[snip]
Is it right to see LVM as software to combine several HD's? Does it
have any use with respect to a single 1.5TB HD?
Yes. At some point, if you run out of space on that device, simple add
another disk to your existing single
On 2010-03-07 03:55, Cecil Knutson wrote:
[snip]
Is it right to see LVM as software to combine several HD's? Does it
have any use with respect to a single 1.5TB HD?
Yes. At some point, if you run out of space on that device, simple
add another disk to your existing single-disk LV (logica
I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that the
installer does not recognize existing partitions already on the hard
disk? Or are
you saying that it won't let you create more than five partitions during
installation? Or are you saying that only five different mount points
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:12:40 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> I put the HD back into the Dimension 8400 with a different sound
> card; booted it on the installation done for the Fujitsu because I couldn't
> get the DVD in soon enough; opened a terminal window and issued
> alsamixer; and this is w
Stephen,
> Great! Now you can do the rest of the "GNOME sound configuration",
> as documented on my web site, to get the system sounds, software
> sound mixing in ALSA, etc, as needed. If there is a "CD" column
> in alsamixer too, you can also install cdtool and see if you can get
> analog CD pl
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:27 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote:
> On 10-03-03 02:21:22, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> > Tony,
> > >
> > > Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
> > > partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not
> > > affected.) The reduced limit has been
On 10-03-03 02:21:22, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Tony,
> >
> > Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
> > partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not
> > affected.) The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora
> > users.
>
> But the Dell has SATA,
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 01:51:06 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Just finished installing Lenny on my Fujitsu which has on-board sound;
> alsamixer says: PCM (100), Surround (MM), Center (MM), LFE (MM), Side
> (MM), IEC958 (MM), IEC958D (00), PC Speak (100); Sound Preferences, in
> the Sound Capture
Tony,
You said there was an ATA limit of 16 partitons on Lenny, but the HD on
the Dimension 8400 is a SATA. Does that make a difference?
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Tony,
>
> Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
> partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.)
> The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora users.
The drive on the Dimension 8400 is a SATA, does that make a difference
in the number
Tony,
>
> Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
> partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.)
> The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora users.
But the Dell has SATA, does that make a difference in the number of
partitions?
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On 10-03-02 01:26:39, Cecil Knutson wrote:
...
> ...and the news that Linux can address 63 partitions. ...
...
Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.)
The reduced limit has been a problem for some
John,
I have been installing Debian with multiple primary partitions since
Buzz.
It was never a question of Debian creating more than one primary
partition. I've known that since Potato.
Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by any
... Linux machine,
Partitions are
Cecil Knutson writes:
> I have run fdisk for years on innumerable computers and never saw
> provision for the creation of more than one primary partition. So I
> am speaking of experience with probably the only partitioner in common
> usage. I have used and am familiar with Partition Magic, so I
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:38:41 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel
>> from backports?
>
> Sure, you can talk me into it, if you will also talk me through it. It is
> another procedure that is completel
John,
The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions
or three primaries and one extended. This limitation is imposed by the
scheme, not by Windows or Linux. An extended partition can contain any
number of logical partitions but Linux can only address a total of 63
partit
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:31:38 -0500 (EST), John Hasler wrote:
> Cecil Knutson writes:
>> Debian Linux three (counting the Swap partition), any other partition
>> has to be an extended...
>
> The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions
> or three primaries and one extended.
Cecil Knutson writes:
> Debian Linux three (counting the Swap partition), any other partition
> has to be an extended...
The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions
or three primaries and one extended. This limitation is imposed by the
scheme, not by Windows or Linux.
Stephen,
In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel
from backports? Granted, your sound card is old enough to be supported
by the
2.6.26 kernel that is standard with Lenny, but that doesn't mean that
there isn't a bug somewhere. I've seen a couple of other "no s
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:44:29 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> I will have to buy another sound card as every other machine I have has
> on-board sound chips. Or see if anyone I know has a spare sound card.
In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel from
backports?
Stephen,
Just out of curiosity, where is "here". In other words, where are you
physically located? And what type of internet connectivity do you have?
async dial-up? cable modem? DSL?
"Here" is Vancouver, Washington with a DSL connection through a router/hub
with Qwest. In PA I had FiOS
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:16:01 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
>> system. But it's your call.
>
> That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to assume
> that the installation wi
On Sat,27.Feb.10, 20:16:01, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Stephen,
> >I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
> >system. But it's your call.
>
> That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to
> assume that the installation will have to be repeated in ord
Lisi,
Sorry, again. I haven't much experience with the list, so I don't know
what courtesies are expected. I hope you have seen that Stephen, Florian,
and I were not able to resolve the sound problem in spite of the massive
help Stephen gave. I think I will try Stephen's suggestion to sw
Stephen,
I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
system. But it's your call.
That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to assume
that the installation will have to be repeated in order to get the sound
card recognized and configured?
Y
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:33:51 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> I get silence when trying to play a .wav file with aplay. No error
> messages, just says "Playing WAVE 'Track1.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
> Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo"
Rats. I was hoping you'd get an error message that mig
On Saturday 27 February 2010 06:33:51 Cecil Knutson wrote:
[snipped lengthy reply with no context]
Cecil - could you possibly start interleaving or even bottom posting (after
suitsble culling) your replies? This is a very busy list and I have
difficulty following this thread.
Thanks
Lisi
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Stephen,
I get silence when trying to play a .wav file with aplay. No error
messages, just says "Playing WAVE 'Track1.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo" The sound card is, without doubt, older
than 2008. I've had the system for at least two years myself and Dell
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:17:09 -0800, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Florian,
> Sorry it took so long for me to realize I did not respond to your
> last email.
No problem, I was pretty busy with work anyway. You have covered a lot
of ground with Stephen Powell in the meantime, and I do not have to
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:32:35 -0500 (EST), Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
> I would suggest installing the backports kernel before upgrading to
> squeeze. See http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
Good idea. That's less radical.
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On Fri,26.Feb.10, 06:16:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:55:27 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> > aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg
> > reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer.
> > ...
> > What would you suggest doing now?
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:55:27 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg
> reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer.
> ...
> What would you suggest doing now?
I'm afraid I'm stumped, Cecil. I've never seen this before
Florian,
Sorry it took so long for me to realize I did not respond to your last
email. Here are the outputs of amixer and aplay.
dimension8400:/home/cecil# amixer
Simple mixer control 'Line in',0
Capabilities: cvolume
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 255
Stephen,
Aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg
reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer. I don't
remember saying this before, so excuse me if it is being repeated, when I
had Ubuntu 9.10 installed, there were two times that the sound worked
aft
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:54:34 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> Stephen,
> Excuse me, I did not complete the assignment last time, alsa-utils and
> cdtool are both installed. They are shown in Synaptic as being installed
> and, when I issued the dpkg-query command for them, they were
Stephen,
Excuse me, I did not complete the assignment last time, alsa-utils and
cdtool are both installed. They are shown in Synaptic as being installed
and, when I issued the dpkg-query command for them, they were identified
just as was alsa-base. I didn't realize that separate co
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:32:31 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> Stephen, This is the second time I have replied, but I don't see the
> reply on the list, so here it goes again.
This is the first reply I have received. The first one must have gotten
lost in the internet somewhere. I was be
Stephen, This is the second time I have replied, but I don't see the
reply on the list, so here it goes again.
"Local" is in the /etc/modprobe.d directory; it has the right contents;
modprobe.conf does not exist; the "cat" command does show the contents of
the file, but I don't see anything
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 02:48:07 Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Yes, Lisi, I did see the later post telling me to use Kwrite as root. I
> don't see it on the applications menu, so I guess I will have to install
> it. How do I use it as root?
From my earlier email (slightly edited, to allow for the f
Yes, Lisi, I did see the later post telling me to use Kwrite as root. I
don't see it on the applications menu, so I guess I will have to install
it. How do I use it as root?
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(Problem: snd_ca0106 sound driver does not work)
Another thing you might try is firmware. Is the package
alsa-firmware-loaders
installed? According to the packages page
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/alsa-firmware-loaders
it should only be needed for the SoundBlaster 16 ASP/CSP Contr
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 19:36:18 -0800, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> dimension8400:/home/cecil# grep '.*' /proc/asound/* /proc/asound/card?/*
> /proc/asound/cards: 0 [CA0106 ]: CA0106 - CA0106
> /proc/asound/cards: Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0413] at 0xcce0
> irq 17
> /proc/asound/c
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:42:27 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> Thanks, Stephen. I've made several mistakes: was in Krusader when I
> double-clicked "blacklist"; assumed that SU-ing in a terminal rendered all
> that follows as root activity.
No, only in that terminal session. All graphica
Thanks, Stephen. I've made several mistakes: was in Krusader when I
double-clicked "blacklist"; assumed that SU-ing in a terminal rendered all
that follows as root activity. So, I opened a terminal; SU'd; CD'd to
/etc/modprobe.d; issued the command "nano local"; typed in the line:
blacklis
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:57:32 -0500 (EST), Lisi wrote:
>
> I agree - but I must confess to using Kwrite myself if I have X available.
> If
> not, of course, I use Vi/Vim - tho' even there I use Vim if it is
> available. :-(
>
> In Lenny with KDE, running an X application as root can, I think, o
On Monday 22 February 2010 16:44:41 Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:57:42 -0500 (EST), Lisi wrote:
> > On Monday 22 February 2010 14:45:11 Stephen Powell wrote:
> >> I earlier recommended gedit, which is a graphical text
> >> editor for the GNOME desktop environment. I thought that'
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:57:42 -0500 (EST), Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 22 February 2010 14:45:11 Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I earlier recommended gedit, which is a graphical text
>> editor for the GNOME desktop environment. I thought that's what you
>> were running. I didn't realize you were using KDE.
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:57:42 +
Lisi wrote:
...
> Kwrite in KDE is a good compromise between vi and word-processors, and I
> would
> say is at a similar "level" to gedit in Gnome. Assuming KDE 3.5.x;
And FTR, mousepad, I believe, is also on a similar "level", but with (I
think) far fewer
On Monday 22 February 2010 14:45:11 Stephen Powell wrote:
> I earlier recommended gedit, which is a graphical text
> editor for the GNOME desktop environment. I thought that's what you
> were running. I didn't realize you were using KDE.
Kwrite in KDE is a good compromise between vi and word-pro
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:06:16 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> No, I have never searched for anything in a web page. Didn't know it
> could be done, didn't look for it.
Amazing. OK, my apologies. I will try to make fewer assumptions.
> Opera does the same, did it, found it,
> read it,
On Monday 22 February 2010 04:06:16 Cecil Knutson wrote:
> opened it with Kword, modified the file
> by adding "blacklist snd_intel8x0, file failed to save. So, now what?
Did you open Kword as root? My guess would be no, and that that is the
problem.
Lisi
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:06:16 -0800
"Cecil Knutson" wrote:
> No, I have never searched for anything in a web page. Didn't know it
> could be done, didn't look for it. Opera does the same, did it, found it,
> read it, opened a terminal, SU'd, cd'd to /etc/modprobe.d, saw
> "blacklist", doub
No, I have never searched for anything in a web page. Didn't know it
could be done, didn't look for it. Opera does the same, did it, found it,
read it, opened a terminal, SU'd, cd'd to /etc/modprobe.d, saw
"blacklist", double-clicked it and opened it with Kword, modified the file
by addin
dimension8400:/home/cecil# grep '.*' /proc/asound/* /proc/asound/card?/*
/proc/asound/cards: 0 [CA0106 ]: CA0106 - CA0106
/proc/asound/cards: Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0413] at
0xcce0 irq 17
/proc/asound/cards: 1 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6
/proc/asound/cards:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:07:03 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell wrote:
...
> Are you telling me you don't know how to search for a character string
> in a web page? I don't use Opera, but in Epiphany and Iceweasel, it's
>
>Edit --> Find
Or just -F, or even plain '/'.
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0500 (EST), Lisi wrote:
> But to be fair to Cecil, I suppose that you have to
> know what you are looking for to look.
Of course I want to be fair to Cecil. I want to be fair
to everyone. But my post stated:
Let's try blacklisting the snd_intel8x0 kernel
modu
On Saturday 20 February 2010 15:07:03 Stephen Powell wrote:
> Are you telling me you don't know how to search for a character string
> in a web page? I don't use Opera, but in Epiphany and Iceweasel, it's
>
> Edit --> Find
And in Konqueror and Opera. Exactly the same. But to be fair to Cecil
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:33:16 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Blacklist, hell, I removed it. I'm using a network connection and never
> use a modem anyway.
> Same number and kind of columns in alsamixer. I went over your
> installation instructions just to see if blacklisting would make a
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 19:11:05 -0800, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> dimension8400:/home/cecil# lspci
[...]
> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
> (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[...]
> 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Aud
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:33:16PM -0800, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Blacklist, hell, I removed it. I'm using a network connection and
> never use a modem anyway.
> Same number and kind of columns in alsamixer. I went over your
> installation instructions just to see if blacklisting would make a
> di
Blacklist, hell, I removed it. I'm using a network connection and never
use a modem anyway.
Same number and kind of columns in alsamixer. I went over your
installation instructions just to see if blacklisting would make a
difference and did not find anything about blacklisting. Where is it
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:11:05 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> dimension8400:/home/cecil# lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE Memory Controller Hub
> (rev 04)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE PCI Express Root Port (rev
> 04)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel
dimension8400:/home/cecil# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE Memory Controller Hub
(rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE PCI Express Root Port (rev
04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:03:27 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
Stephen, here is the output of lsmod:
>
> Module Size Used by
> binfmt_misc 7560 1
> radeon118720 2
> drm65288 3 radeon
> agpgart28808 1 drm
> ppdev
Stephen, here is the output of lsmod:
Module Size Used by
binfmt_misc 7560 1
radeon118720 2
drm65288 3 radeon
agpgart28808 1 drm
ppdev 6468 0
lp 8164 0
ipv6
Stephen, here is the output of lsmod:
Module Size Used by
binfmt_misc 7560 1
radeon118720 2
drm65288 3 radeon
agpgart28808 1 drm
ppdev 6468 0
lp 8164 0
ipv6
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:04:49 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
> How would I find out if something else is wrong with the installation?
I really don't know.
Cecil,
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:04:49 -0800,
> I don't like GUIs (I
> prefer words and drop-down menus to icons) but do like the multiple
> running programs (DesqView I did like). I would prefer an OS written in
> Assembly language, no GUI, but multi-tasking capable.
You might find NO o
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:04:49 -0800
"Cecil Knutson" wrote:
...
> running programs (DesqView I did like). I would prefer an OS written in
> Assembly language, no GUI, but multi-tasking capable. Linux seemed to fit
"MikeOS is an operating system for x86 PCs, written in assembly
language. It
(Sorry, cannot comment on your sound issues.)
Cecil Knutson:
>
> […] but I have not
> found any reference that gave me the information I needed to run programs
> outside of X.
Just Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, start your program.
> I loved Midnight Commander, but where is it now?
In the Debian archi
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:57:05 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> Thanks, Stephen!! Got Opera installed after getting to the right
> directory, getting the syntax correct, and eliminating a spurious
> directory. Am using it now. I tried Epiphany and Iceweasel and both
> would hang forever
Thanks, Stephen!! Got Opera installed after getting to the right
directory, getting the syntax correct, and eliminating a spurious
directory. Am using it now. I tried Epiphany and Iceweasel and both
would hang forever just trying to go to debian.org or hp.com!! I
installed Konqueror and
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 22:08 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
> As for Opera
[...]
> Normally, a vendor which has
> packaged a file for installation under Debian but which is not in the
> Debian archive will give you installation
> instructions that involve adding an entry to the /etc/apt/sources.list
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:15:48 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> There is no sound from any of the ports on the computer. System Profiler
> says the multimedia audio controller is an Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW,
> and a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS, but only the Intel shows up on the Sound
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