RE: Re: server latency

2024-07-29 Thread Walt E
+0900 제목: Re: server latency Hi,On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:23:28PM +, Walt E wrote:> However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit icmp ping.> So, in this situation, how do I know the local latency to those servers?I pick a 

Re: server latency

2024-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:23:28PM +, Walt E wrote: > However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit > icmp ping. > So, in this situation, how do I know the local latency to those servers? I pick a port that I know is open and use a traceroute that uses those

Re: server latency

2024-07-28 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 28 Jul 2024 13:23 +, from linux...@daum.net (Walt E): > When I want to know the approximate latency from local to remote servers, I > know I can use icmp ping. > However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit > icmp ping. > So, in this situation, how do I know

Re: "(Server) Protocol versions: remote=31, negotiated=31". How to you rsync just certain file extensions? . . .

2023-03-11 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 3/11/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > Hmm, that didn't work either. Now it's time to read the documentation. > (read, read, read) > OK, here we go: > > unicorn:/tmp/src$ rsync -a --include="*/" --include="*.foo" > --include="*.bar" --exclude="*" . /tmp/dest/ > unicorn:/tmp/src$ find /tmp/dest >

Re: "(Server) Protocol versions: remote=31, negotiated=31". How to you rsync just certain file extensions? . . .

2023-03-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
OK. Let me just discard every single piece of quoted content from this thread, because none of it makes ANY sense. Here is what I see in the Subject: header: 1) Some piece of the verbose output of rsync, for unknown reason. 2) A question about how to do a specific task with rsync. At some point

Re: "(Server) Protocol versions: remote=31, negotiated=31". How to you rsync just certain file extensions? . . .

2023-03-11 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 3/11/23, Dan Ritter wrote: > Albretch Mueller wrote: >> The one liner reporting that error is: >> >> time( sudo rsync --rsync-path="/usr/local/bin/rsync" --debug=ALL >> --archive --verbose --compress --recursive --checksum --include="*/" >> --include=".${_X}" --exclude="*" --prune-empty-dir

Re: "(Server) Protocol versions: remote=31, negotiated=31". How to you rsync just certain file extensions? . . .

2023-03-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > The one liner reporting that error is: > > time( sudo rsync --rsync-path="/usr/local/bin/rsync" --debug=ALL > --archive --verbose --compress --recursive --checksum --include="*/" > --include=".${_X}" --exclude="*" --prune-empty-dirs "${_SRC}" > "${_DST}" 1> "${_LOG

Re: Server Static IP and At&T's BGW210

2023-01-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 05:39 Tom Browder wrote: BTW, I just found this link from a guy I recently found on Youtube who seems to know his stuff: > https://christitus.com/secure-web-server/ -Tom

Re: Server Static IP and At&T's BGW210

2023-01-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 19:58 David Christensen wrote: … If your AT&T U-verse residential gateway is anything like mine (Pace > 5268AC FXN), it will have a web server/ control panel accessed … Yes, mine router is similar I own and recommend "Networking for System Administrators" by Lucas: > >

Re: Server Static IP and At&T's BGW210

2023-01-19 Thread David Christensen
On 1/19/23 13:15, Tom Browder wrote: I am trying to use my new public static IP for my Debian PC which is ready for it security-wise (thanks to advice from this ML; note I will initially allow access only via ssh from the IP address of one of my remote hosts). I know how to turn on public access

Re: Server Static IP and At&T's BGW210

2023-01-19 Thread gene heskett
On 1/19/23 17:08, john doe wrote: On 1/19/23 22:15, Tom Browder wrote: I am trying to use my new public static IP for my Debian PC which is ready for it security-wise (thanks to advice from this ML; note I will initially allow access only via ssh from the IP address of one of my remote hosts).

Re: Server Static IP and At&T's BGW210

2023-01-19 Thread Brian
On Thu 19 Jan 2023 at 15:15:28 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > I am trying to use my new public static IP for my Debian PC which is ready > for it security-wise (thanks to advice from this ML; note I will initially > allow access only via ssh from the IP address of one of my remote hosts). > > I know

Re: Server Static IP and At&T's BGW210

2023-01-19 Thread john doe
On 1/19/23 22:15, Tom Browder wrote: I am trying to use my new public static IP for my Debian PC which is ready for it security-wise (thanks to advice from this ML; note I will initially allow access only via ssh from the IP address of one of my remote hosts). -Tom If I may, use bridge mode o

Re: Server setup

2021-06-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 iun 21, 23:59:58, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 15 Jun 2021 at 07:21:33 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 14 iun 21, 16:39:11, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > This is the first time I have to install a system using GPT with BIOS so > > > I'm not sure how does it wor

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Jun 2021 at 07:21:33 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 14 iun 21, 16:39:11, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > This is the first time I have to install a system using GPT with BIOS so > > I'm not sure how does it work with the BIOS boot partition. > > What is a "BIOS boot

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Jun 2021 at 12:31:08 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-06-14 11:21 a.m., David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 13 Jun 2021 at 13:57:33 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > > > >> You must also have a huge need to answer question without reading what > >

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Jun 2021 at 16:39:11 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I can understand the idea of cutting out part of the messages when I > answer. But this is now forcing me to repeat many times... The idea is to cut out the water that's passed under the bridge, so to speak. You don't

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 iun 21, 16:39:11, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > Like I already said, the "helper" that setup the whole system has the > same skeleton for every type of hardware installation (not so good). As most of us are probably not customers of your hosting provider we have no idea wh

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 15/06/21 9:26 am, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 04:39:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: I would like to have my system running on different partition for home, usr, var, tmp, etc... This is a safe route to prevent some problem (such as filling up a partition th

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 04:39:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > I would like to have my system running on different partition for home, > > usr, var, tmp, etc... This is a safe route to prevent some problem (such > > as filling up a partition that ris

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 05:36:39PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: If I'm not mistaken, if anything it's actually more of an ancestor; That's right. Quoting the original Markdown page[1]: the single biggest source of inspiration for Markdown’s syntax is the format of plain text email. [1] https:

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 04:39:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I would like to have my system running on different partition for home, > usr, var, tmp, etc... This is a safe route to prevent some problem (such > as filling up a partition that risk trashing the system). "etc."?

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 04:39:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I can understand the idea of cutting out part of the messages when I > answer. But this is now forcing me to repeat many times... You're being asked direct questions because your rambling style has no real i

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, I can understand the idea of cutting out part of the messages when I answer. But this is now forcing me to repeat many times... On 2021-06-14 3:50 p.m., Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Polyna-Maude, > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:31:08PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Now what I d

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Polyna-Maude, On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:31:08PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Now what I did was to install the machine using the "helper" given by > the provider (OVH/OneProvider). This way I can dissect the working > system and see how the configuration is done. So what do

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-14 11:21 a.m., David Wright wrote: > On Sun 13 Jun 2021 at 13:57:33 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> You must also have a huge need to answer question without reading what >> they are. >> >> I ain't using the Debian installer because I don't have access to the >

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Jun 2021 at 13:57:33 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > You must also have a huge need to answer question without reading what > they are. > > I ain't using the Debian installer because I don't have access to the > KVM (Keyboard, Mouse, etc). > > So if you read back my m

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2021 04:36 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-06-13 at 17:30, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: ... Regarding the asterisks, I used them in many text to make emphasis, including in some text that go out in printed form. Started doing so when I was still in university and transcribing

Re: Server setup

2021-06-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2021 05:23 PM, deloptes wrote: Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: So if you read back my message. I boot using a rescue system over the network. I do my partition. I make the filesystem. I mount. I use debootstrap. And after I need to configure boot, this is where it blocks. Got i

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread deloptes
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > So if you read back my message. > I boot using a rescue system over the network. > I do my partition. > I make the filesystem. > I mount. > I use debootstrap. > And after I need to configure boot, this is where it blocks. > > Got it now ? At least now I

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread deloptes
john doe wrote: > Apparently you are not here to get some help. No she is, but she doesn't know how ...

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-06-13 at 17:30, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-13 4:50 p.m., The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-06-13 at 16:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >>> How do you make the text bold ? The * is enough ? >> >> You don't. How the text is rendered depends e

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-13 4:50 p.m., The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-06-13 at 16:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> How do you make the text bold ? The * is enough ? > > You don't. How the text is rendered depends entirely on the mail client > the person is using, and potentially on the confi

Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-06-13 at 16:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > How do you make the text bold ? The * is enough ? You don't. How the text is rendered depends entirely on the mail client the person is using, and potentially on the configuration of that client. Some clients - including the one I'

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-13 3:51 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> It's not a thing of being rude or not. >> But please, take time to read what the person ask before writing a answer. > > But you never actually *asked* anythi

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-13 3:51 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> It's not a thing of being rude or not. >> But please, take time to read what the person ask before writing a answer. > > But you never actually *asked* anythi

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > It's not a thing of being rude or not. > But please, take time to read what the person ask before writing a answer. But you never actually *asked* anything in your original message. You *implied* that you wanted to

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
It's not a thing of being rude or not. But please, take time to read what the person ask before writing a answer. If you ask "Is there a good software for bitmap imaging" and I answer "You shall try Inkscape". What will you think ? That you are looking for a bitmap editor not a vector based... An

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 6/13/21 9:50 PM, john doe wrote: > On 6/13/2021 8:12 PM, john doe wrote: >> On 6/13/2021 7:57 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 2021-06-13 1:52 p.m., Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 6/13/21 7:53 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > > I

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread john doe
On 6/13/2021 8:12 PM, john doe wrote: On 6/13/2021 7:57 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, On 2021-06-13 1:52 p.m., Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 6/13/21 7:53 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, If you read the part of my message I've left you'll see that : 1st, I'm us

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi ! Tell me where it's not clear : --- Start of original message --- Hi ! I'm renting a server with one-provider (OVH). I have a choice of OS and it does a great job running Debian Buster. But... The "standard" installation give me one partition in RAID mirror ( 3 x 2 To). So I get only a big r

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread john doe
On 6/13/2021 7:57 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, On 2021-06-13 1:52 p.m., Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 6/13/21 7:53 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, If you read the part of my message I've left you'll see that : 1st, I'm using a OVH server but it's provided by o

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-13 1:52 p.m., Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 6/13/21 7:53 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a choice of OS and it does a great job running Debian Buster. But... The "standard" installation give me one partition in RAID mirror ( 3 x 2

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 6/13/21 7:53 PM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > >>> I have a choice of OS and it does a great job running Debian Buster. >>> But... >>> >>> The "standard" installation give me one partition in RAID mirror ( 3 x 2 >>> To). So I get only a big root partition and nothing else >

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, >> I have a choice of OS and it does a great job running Debian Buster. >> But... >> >> The "standard" installation give me one partition in RAID mirror ( 3 x 2 >> To). So I get only a big root partition and nothing else >> >> I don't have access to my server with a KVM, so all has to be d

Re: Server setup

2021-06-13 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 6/13/21 2:01 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi ! > I'm renting a server with one-provider (OVH). > > I have a choice of OS and it does a great job running Debian Buster. > But... > > The "standard" installation give me one partition in RAID mirror ( 3 x 2 > To). So I get only a b

Re: Server for Jitsi; was: Zoom.

2020-10-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> ... I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. > Do you self-host? Any 3rd party host recommendable? Not myself, but we have an instance running on our department's servers. Stefan

Re: Server for Jitsi; was: Zoom.

2020-10-22 Thread der.hans
Am 22. Oct, 2020 schwätzte pe...@easthope.ca so: From: Stefan Monnier Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 ... I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. Do you self-host? Any 3rd party host recommendable? If you need the service for a Free Software project talk to FOSShos

Re: Server for Jitsi; was: Zoom.

2020-10-22 Thread Dan Ritter
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 > > ... I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. > > Do you self-host? Any 3rd party host recommendable? I run three instances of Jitsi; two for my company (one is a test and can probably g

Re: Server goes to sleep

2020-05-20 Thread David Wright
On Sun 17 May 2020 at 00:02:20 (+1000), elvis wrote: > On 16/5/20 10:15 pm, Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:39:44AM -0700, Chris Rhodin wrote: > > > > > > I've installed Debian Buster on a desktop system I use as a server. I > > > also > > > occasionally use this as a regu

Re: Server goes to sleep

2020-05-16 Thread Henning Follmann
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 12:02:20AM +1000, elvis wrote: > > On 16/5/20 10:15 pm, Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:39:44AM -0700, Chris Rhodin wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've installed Debian Buster on a desktop system I use as a server. I > > > also > > > occasionally use

Re: Server goes to sleep

2020-05-16 Thread elvis
On 16/5/20 10:15 pm, Henning Follmann wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:39:44AM -0700, Chris Rhodin wrote: Hi, I've installed Debian Buster on a desktop system I use as a server. I also occasionally use this as a regular desktop system so it has a monitor, keyboard, and GUI. During installa

Re: Server goes to sleep

2020-05-16 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:39:44AM -0700, Chris Rhodin wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed Debian Buster on a desktop system I use as a server. I also > occasionally use this as a regular desktop system so it has a monitor, > keyboard, and GUI. During installation I selected the ssh server in > task

Re: Server goes to sleep

2020-05-15 Thread mett
On 2020年5月16日 4:20:50 JST, Dan Ritter wrote: >Chris Rhodin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've installed Debian Buster on a desktop system I use as a server. >I also >> occasionally use this as a regular desktop system so it has a >monitor, >> keyboard, and GUI. During installation I selected the ssh ser

Re: Server goes to sleep

2020-05-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Rhodin wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed Debian Buster on a desktop system I use as a server. I also > occasionally use this as a regular desktop system so it has a monitor, > keyboard, and GUI. During installation I selected the ssh server in > tasksel (so during installation there was som

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-10, Richard Hector wrote: > > Similarly, one of our local fuel stations has (or had) vouchers that say > things like '10c per litre off every litre of fuel' - which also quickly > gets into trouble if taken literally :-) You mean that would mean 20c off the second litre and 30c off the

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-11 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-10 23:44, Richard Hector wrote: On 11/08/19 3:06 AM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 10 Aug 2019 at 21:19:31 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: Richard Hector wrote: Sorry, this usage grates with me. $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Hector
On 11/08/19 3:06 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 10 Aug 2019 at 21:19:31 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: >> On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: >>> Richard Hector wrote: >>> Sorry, this usage grates with me. $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price >

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread David Wright
On Sat 10 Aug 2019 at 21:19:31 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: > > Richard Hector wrote: > > > >> > >> Sorry, this usage grates with me. > >> > >> $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price > >> > >> $x times $price means multiply $price b

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Hector
On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: > >> >> Sorry, this usage grates with me. >> >> $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price >> >> $x times $price means multiply $price by $x >> >> so "2 times cheaper (than $450)" is: >> >> $450 - (2 x $450) = -$450.

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread deloptes
Richard Hector wrote: > > Sorry, this usage grates with me. > > $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price > > $x times $price means multiply $price by $x > > so "2 times cheaper (than $450)" is: > > $450 - (2 x $450) = -$450. so what multiplied by 2 gives 450? 450

OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Hector
On 10/08/19 6:20 AM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 01:16:49PM -0400, Celejar wrote: >> When you say five times cheaper, I gather you're talking about the >> prices for used units, in which case it's not really an >> apples-to-apples comparison. At least when I checked, the new units on >>

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Steven Mainor
I bought a turris omnia router recently and so far it has worked out pretty well. -- Steven Mainor On August 9, 2019 12:59:34 PM EDT, Reco wrote: >On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> John Hasler wrote: >> >> > Steven Mainor writes: >> > > It looks like there are some

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Reco
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 01:16:49PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:59:34 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > ... > > > > This one was very appealing > > > https://www.amazon.de/DMC-Taiwan-Industrial-Networking-Processor/dp/B07T3

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread John Hasler
$430 is way above my budget. "Linksys" and "Wireless" are both negatives. Maybe, if I could get it for $10 at a yard sale... -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:59:34 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: ... > > This one was very appealing > > https://www.amazon.de/DMC-Taiwan-Industrial-Networking-Processor/dp/B07T3TWYLJ/ref=sr_1_11?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=acros

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Reco
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > Steven Mainor writes: > > > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. > > > > Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I > > think I'll order one today. The an

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread deloptes
John Hasler wrote: > Steven Mainor writes: > > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. > > Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I > think I'll order one today. The ancient Dell I'm now using as a > router/firewall is getting flaky. I've

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread John Hasler
Steven Mainor writes: > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I think I'll order one today. The ancient Dell I'm now using as a router/firewall is getting flaky. I've wanted to replace it some time b

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Igor Cicimov
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 3:35 PM Steven Mainor wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus > on > security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 > people at most. > > My requirements are: > > A server setup that can be run

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Steven Mainor
It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. -- Steven Mainor On August 8, 2019 11:16:44 PM EDT, John Hasler wrote: >Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Disregarding OSHW I agree that above options are good highlights. >> Additionally I suggest Olimex A64-Olinuxino and ESPRESSObin,

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread John Hasler
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Disregarding OSHW I agree that above options are good highlights. > Additionally I suggest Olimex A64-Olinuxino and ESPRESSObin, both > (unlike above options) known to be mainlined and work with Debian > Buster. The ESPRESSObin would fulfill my requirements, but does n

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread David Christensen
On 8/8/19 7:22 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: To summarize: if you're running ZFS, it can protect you from lots of sources of data corruption. It can't protect you from RAM errors without ECC, so you should opt for ECC if integrity is your goal. None of the other filesystems protect you against RAM error

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:49:06PM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: So is the general consensus that there are no modern SBCs powerful enough to run nextcloud on (apache, mariadb, php) or a mail server (typical postfix, dovecot, opendkim, SpamAssassin etc... ) for a handful of people? That seems hard

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Steven Mainor wrote: > So is the general consensus that there are no modern SBCs powerful enough to > run nextcloud on (apache, mariadb, php) or a mail server (typical postfix, > dovecot, opendkim, SpamAssassin etc... ) for a handful of people? That seems > hard to believe. > I would certain

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Steven Mainor
So is the general consensus that there are no modern SBCs powerful enough to run nextcloud on (apache, mariadb, php) or a mail server (typical postfix, dovecot, opendkim, SpamAssassin etc... ) for a handful of people? That seems hard to believe. -- Steven Mainor On August 8, 2019 12:14:23 PM

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-08-08 17:25:02) > Hi. > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:54:17PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > > Then Intel stopped making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS > > > > > wants ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardware. > > > > > > > > My understanding

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:54:17PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Then Intel stopped making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS > > > > wants ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardware. > > > > > > My understanding is that ZFS's need / desire for ECC is something

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dan Ritter (2019-08-08 16:22:07) > Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 23:59:44 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Get at least four internal SATA 6 Gbps ports -- boot disk, optical > > > disk, two data disks (mirrored). I prefer six. > > > > Do most people ru

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 23:59:44 -0700 > David Christensen wrote: > > ... > > > Get at least four internal SATA 6 Gbps ports -- boot disk, optical disk, > > two data disks (mirrored). I prefer six. > > Do most people running servers really want / need an optical disk? As > long a

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 23:59:44 -0700 David Christensen wrote: ... > Get at least four internal SATA 6 Gbps ports -- boot disk, optical disk, > two data disks (mirrored). I prefer six. Do most people running servers really want / need an optical disk? As long as the machine can boot via USB, is a

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread John Hasler
Steven Mainor wrote: > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary > focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that > will serve 3 to 5 people at most. David Christensen writes: > Have you considered a mail hosting provider? The Internet is a war > zon

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 07 aug 19, 10:21:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Disregarding OSHW I agree that above options are good highlights. > Additionally I suggest Olimex A64-Olinuxino and ESPRESSObin, both > (unlike above options) known to be mainlined and work with Debian > Buster. The Rock64Pro (possibly wi

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread David Christensen
On 8/6/19 10:29 PM, Steven Mainor wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on security. Have you considered OpenBSD? Security is their top priority. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 people at most. Have you

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Steven Mainor wrote: > I would say a server is any piece of software or hardware that serves data > to other devices. > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as server: hardware software In your case you are talking about buying hardware - correct? And if you

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:12:20 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > > > Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very > > little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by > > using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread jochen-2019-q2
Am 07.08.2019 um 10:21 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 08:53:52) On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
I would say a server is any piece of software or hardware that serves data to other devices. I have run an apache2/mariadb/php server from an old laptop with a headless LTS Linux for over two years without issue. Surely you aren't saying only a rack mounted 64 core monstrosity with a TB of ram

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread ghe
Depends on what you're trying to do. I run a small domain on a T1 without pictures or audio, so I'm using a Raspberry Pi 3 as a server. Quite a bit faster than the old PDP-11s the 'Net started out with, and significantly less expensive. And smaller. My domain used to be a lot larger, but still a

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:12:20PM +0200, deloptes wrote: Michael Stone wrote: Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's new

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Michael Stone wrote: > Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very > little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by > using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's > new enough that it's from the era when power efficiency

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 04:53:52PM +0200, deloptes wrote: Years ago I build one to serve our needs at home. It has 4 virtual CPU and 32GB RAM - it uses 85Watt of power when not under load and it goes to above 100 if I compile software on it. It uses 10Watt more if I run a virtual machine (virtual

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Steven Mainor wrote: > I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard drive(s) > I already have drives. Less is better. When I read server hardware I understand also server hardware. It has many CPUs a lot of ram, redundant power supply etc. It consumes a lot of power and costs

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-07 11:13, Nektarios Katakis wrote: On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 02:08:30 -0400 Steven Mainor wrote: You are correct. That was an oversight. Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver and the heatsinks. I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:58:57AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Those seem like options to consider. The > pre-orders for the helios4 seem to be sold out for now. They are currently at fourth "campaign", i.e. they're manufacturing a fourth batch. Supply is limi

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steven Mainor (2019-08-07 12:04:35) > Perhaps you are right about usb 2.0. And the Olimex A64-OLinuXino does > seem like a solid option otherwise. > > I wasn't able to verify which usb the Olimex A64-OLinuXino had. It > didn't specifically say on the specs page. And the github link for t

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Nektarios Katakis
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 02:08:30 -0400 Steven Mainor wrote: > You are correct. That was an oversight. > > Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver > and the heatsinks. > > I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard > drive(s) I already have drives

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
Perhaps you are right about usb 2.0. And the Olimex A64-OLinuXino does seem like a solid option otherwise. I wasn't able to verify which usb the Olimex A64-OLinuXino had. It didn't specifically say on the specs page. And the github link for the schematic seems to be broken. https://github.com

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
Thanks for the reply. Those seem like options to consider. The pre-orders for the helios4 seem to be sold out for now. -- Steven Mainor On August 7, 2019 2:53:52 AM EDT, Reco wrote: >On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for advice on how t

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 10:53:35) > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 10:21:25AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > That list is outdated somewhat. But it gave me good ideas back in > > > the day. > > > > Care to elaborate? > > Specifically it gave me an idea to buy that Linksys WRT1200. > Works for me

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