Re: POP3

On Tue 22 Dec 2015 at 02:48:00 (+1300), Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 06:28:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > Of course I removed the "was": it wasn't in the subject line of the > > post you were responding to. > > Did you get out of the wrong side of bed? Inserting 'was'

Re: POP3

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 06:28:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Of course I removed the "was": it wasn't in the subject line of the > post you were responding to. Did you get out of the wrong side of bed? Inserting 'was' is normal practice when starting a sub thread. -- "If you're not carefu

Re: OT Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015, Bob Holtzman wrote: When I had to put down my old guy and best friend "Num Nutz" I cried more than I did at my mother's funeralso I know the feeling. Yes. Some may want to complain that this exchange is OT, but I submit that this Christmas week, with the world seemin

OT Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 07:19:17PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Curt wrote: > > >My cat died and I don't want another because of the heartbreak I > >went through. > > I am so sorry for your loss, which very clearly was a *major* one. > Try to give yourself enough time to gri

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Curt wrote: My cat died and I don't want another because of the heartbreak I went through. I am so sorry for your loss, which very clearly was a *major* one. Try to give yourself enough time to grieve; there's no telling how long that will take. There's no FAQ for grief,

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On 2015-12-18, Ric Moore wrote: I just don't, for my use, like a lot of what IMAP does. > > I use POP. Nuff said. :) Ric And I don't give a shit what you use. I don't have a car and bought my first cell phone six months ago. My cat died and I don't want another because of the heartbrea

Re: POP3

On Saturday 19 December 2015 00:28:35 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 15:36:05 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 15:27:08 David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 10:32:01 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote:

Re: POP3

On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 15:36:05 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 15:27:08 David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 10:32:01 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging in

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 14:02:52 Martin Read wrote: > On 18/12/15 18:14, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Ok, I have constructed a recursive pull ~/.wgetrc, but all I get are > > syntax errors. The file: (which kmail cannit insert, so copy-paste) > > gene@coyote:~/Documents/dovecot-wiki$ cat ~/.wgetrc

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:33:14 -0500 (EST) Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > A mailfile, as I understand it, is the whole thing merged into > > one file, with a blank line or something as a separator, and > > an index file containing the starting offset and re

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: A mailfile, as I understand it, is the whole thing merged into one file, with a blank line or something as a separator, and an index file containing the starting offset and read status of each message in the main file to speed up the search for new mai

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On 12/18/2015 10:19 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, lusers and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit to it?

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On 18/12/15 18:14, Gene Heskett wrote: Ok, I have constructed a recursive pull ~/.wgetrc, but all I get are syntax errors. The file: (which kmail cannit insert, so copy-paste) gene@coyote:~/Documents/dovecot-wiki$ cat ~/.wgetrc -np --follow-ftp -r -l 20 -k Using "info wget" to read the wget us

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 12:23:25 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:07:57 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > > > If you want to try setting up a Dovecot server, there are lots of > > > good tutorials and other docs out there. I

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:07:57 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > > If you want to try setting up a Dovecot server, there are lots of > > good tutorials and other docs out there. I can probably dig up > > links to the pages I used for setting up my

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 16:07:57 Gene Heskett wrote: > And I was confused, I meant dovecot, not icedove, and whose magic crystal > ball issues these names anyway? :)  icedove is of course t-bird, without > the branding. Phew. Glad it wasn't me. I couldn't make sense of "Icedove", but there is

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, > > > lusers and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19:46 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, > > > lusers and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 09:54:54 Bob Bernstein wrote: > Gene: I'm unfamiliar with the term "mailfile." Can you expand a > tad on that? Q'est-ce que? A mailfile, as I understand it, is the whole thing merged into one file, with a blank line or something as a separator, and an index file conta

Re: POP3

On Friday 18 December 2015 15:27:08 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 10:32:01 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > > > po

Re: POP3

On Fri 18 Dec 2015 at 10:32:01 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > poll > > protopop3 > > user > > password > > ssl

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:31:45 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, > > lusers and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit > > to it? (For the avoidance of doubt, I us

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

Gene: I'm unfamiliar with the term "mailfile." Can you expand a tad on that? Q'est-ce que? -- Bob Bernstein

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 07:13:42 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:57:37 -0300 > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > Hello Renaud, > > >backwoods and using POP3 (and refusing systemd...) > > Using POP3 here, too. I don't need access 24/7 worldwide to all my > emails. And frankly, leavi

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 05:32:01 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > poll > > protopop3 > > user > > password > > ssl

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:57:37 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Hello Renaud, >backwoods and using POP3 (and refusing systemd...) Using POP3 here, too. I don't need access 24/7 worldwide to all my emails. And frankly, leaving (some of my personal) emails on a server I have no control over is a

Re: POP3

Hi, > [coming out of several POP3 users] I am carrying Carl Harris' "popclient" from computer to computer since the 1990s. It can even do POP2 if you find a server that cooperates. Occasionally i have to adapt it to the newest internet habits and threats. But that's only minor polishing. Its lac

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Friday 18 December 2015 11:26:35 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > > > poll >

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2015 09:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info. > > > > The guts of my ~/.fetchmailrc are > > > > poll > > protopop3 > > user > > password > > ssl

Re: POP3

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI composed on 2015-12-18 07:57 (UTC-0300): > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + Lisi Reisz wrote: >> Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, lusers >> and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit to it? (For the >> avoidance of doubt

Re: POP3 was: Re: command not found [SOLVED]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:32:01 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > Having just by implication been told by someone that only muggles, lusers > and/or dinosaurs use POP3, how many others of us will admit to it? (For the > avoidance of doubt, I use POP3.) I am also one of the unenlightened users, making gr

Re: POP3 softwares.

On 1/25/14, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:46:15PM -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: >> Problem >> Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a >> local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and >> lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to

Re: POP3 softwares.

Hi, On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:46:15PM -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solutio

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 19:02 keltezéssel, Peter Easthope írta: >> I use fetchmail for similar task. > > OK; thanks. In your application, where or how does fetchmail deliver > messages? > The documentation I've seen mentions acquisition by POP but doesn't mention > disposal. It puts the emails to the user's

Re: POP3 softwares.

On Sun, January 19, 2014 2:53 am, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > I use fetchmail for similar task. OK; thanks. In your application, where or how does fetchmail deliver messages? The documentation I've seen mentions acquisition by POP but doesn't mention disposal. ... P

Re: POP3 softwares.

Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 21:46:15 schrieb Peter Easthope: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 06:46 keltezéssel, Peter Easthope írta: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let getmail, i

Re: POP3 softwares.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:46:15PM -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > L

Re: What�s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:15:33AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote: > > Jon Dowland writes: > > > > > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > > > or mpop are options. > > > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? > > > > > > It's fine if it

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

On 24 Jan 2012, Johann Spies wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems > > authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to > > getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't re

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote: > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems > authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to > getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but > I've always used ge

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:47 AM, lee wrote: > Jon Dowland writes: > >> I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail >> or mpop are options. > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01476.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote: > Jon Dowland writes: > > > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > > or mpop are options. > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? > > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems authenticting myself to a mail server w

What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

Jon Dowland writes: > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > or mpop are options. What´s wrong with fetchmail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archi

Re: POP3 in Debian

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > or mpop are options. What's wrong with Fetchmail? Works flawlessly for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: POP3 in Debian

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:49:22 -0800, peasthope wrote: > Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages > with this appearing in the log. Which MUA? > --- POP > RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca > SND: USER peasthope > RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca > SND: PASS

Re: POP3 in Debian

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: (...) > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > or mpop are options. Long-time fetchmail user -and lover- here! (me, I mean...) :-) Can you please explain what motivates your above advice? Greetings, -- C

Re: POP3 in Debian

Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > Is this a general advice? If so, then why? > > Yes. > > covers many > reasons. Holy smoke! Well that are enough reasons for me. OTOH it

Re: POP3 in Debian

On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: Is this a general advice? If so, then why? Yes. covers many reasons. Or is it your advice for the OP's aim to directly deliver messages to a mbox or maildir without exim and without running a

Re: POP3 in Debian

* Jon Dowland wrote on 2012-01-19 at 11:38 (+): > On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure > >whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it > >only supports maildir. > > Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject

Re: POP3 in Debian

Hi, Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well (Though I like the getmail4 package as being its maintainer.) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 01:49:22PM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive > messages with this appearing in t

Re: POP3 in Debian

Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > > On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether > > > it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it onl

Re: POP3 in Debian

Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it > > can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports > > maildir. > > Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inje

Re: POP3 in Debian

On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends o

Re: Re: POP3 in Debian

On Mi, 18 ian 12, 19:16:03, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > * From: Andrei Popescu > * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:06:16 +0200 > > Try having a look at your mail via some other > > means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create > > problems. > > Web access shows nothing u

Re: POP3 in Debian

Am Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2012 schrieb peasth...@shaw.ca: > Failure in parsing "LIST 1" baffles. How big a problem can parsing of > 6 characters be? To understand further, I want a Debian system to > automatically retrieve messages from the POP3 server and put them in > /home/peter/mbox. Then qpop

Re: POP3 in Debian

If it has worked before, it could as well be a temporarily problem of your provider. By the way, here we're using pop3 encrypted via ssl (which nowadays every provider should have available) in order to protect the password from eavesdropping. -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Re: POP3 in Debian

* From: Andrei Popescu * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:06:16 +0200 > Try having a look at your mail via some other > means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create > problems. Web access shows nothing unusual. Messages have come to the I.S.P. mailbox since the pr

Re: POP3 in Debian

On Mi, 18 ian 12, 13:49:22, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive > messages with this appearing in the log. > --- POP > RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca > SND: USER peasthope > RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca > SND: PASS

Re: POP3 connector for exchange 2007

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 30.03.09 03:19, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: I just been asking by manager to deploy a POP3 connector for winblow$2008 I guess it's "asked by manager" - the manager asked you for that... with exchange 2007 The company been using winblow$2003 and moving to 08 with

Re: POP3 connector for exchange 2007

On 30.03.09 03:19, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: > I just been asking by manager to deploy a POP3 connector for winblow$2008 I guess it's "asked by manager" - the manager asked you for that... > with exchange 2007 The company been using winblow$2003 and moving to 08 > with exchange 2007 exchange supp

Re: POP3 connector for exchange 2007

Phillipus Gunawan wrote: Hi There, I just been asking by manager to deploy a POP3 connector for winblow$2008 with exchange 2007 The company been using winblow$2003 and moving to 08 with exchange 2007 What would be a good friendly package to integrate it with AD which will deliver the POP emai

Re: POP3 server

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:26:37 +0300 Tero Mäntyvaara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have used POP3 server now a few months, but I have forgot whitch > one it was. :-/ How can I find out whitch server I am using? :-D > > > Tero Mäntyvaara > > quick and dirty way is to to telnet to port 110 of th

Re: POP3 server

Tero Mäntyvaara wrote: > I have used POP3 server now a few months, but I have forgot whitch > one it was. :-/ How can I find out whitch server I am using? :-D Is the server still configured in any application you are using? pgpEjyDvtcF40.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: POP3 server

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 02:26:37PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote: > I have used POP3 server now a few months, but I have forgot whitch one > it was. :-/ How can I find out whitch server I am using? :-D Start with: netstat -lntp | grep 110 to check what process listens on port 110 . -- Tzafri

Re: pop3 server????

On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 07:29 -0800, Sergio Basurto Juarez wrote: > Debian: Testing > Exim: 4.38 > > Hello everyone, > > I have exim configured and working, the question is: > > exim can be used as a pop3 server? > > if not, which pop3 server is the best, I will > appreciate any feedback. > > I

Re: pop3 server????

Sergio Basurto Juarez wrote: Debian: Testing Exim: 4.38 Hello everyone, I have exim configured and working, the question is: exim can be used as a pop3 server? if not, which pop3 server is the best, I will appreciate any feedback. I want the users be able to get the mail from the server via pop3. R

Re: The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?)

On 2003-11-06 09:31:35 -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > Sounds like what you want is better communication with your sysadmin? > > If the sysadmin knows you're using fetchmail and they're good, they'll > let you know if they're going to break your setup. Or they'll warn you > they're making an MTA cha

Re: The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?)

Sounds like what you want is better communication with your sysadmin? If the sysadmin knows you're using fetchmail and they're good, they'll let you know if they're going to break your setup. Or they'll warn you they're making an MTA change. Hell, they should be doing that anyway -- system ch

Re: The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?)

On 2003-11-05 11:52:37 -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > It's not nonsense. fetchmail's authors can't be held responsible for > you not configuring your MTA correctly. And they certainly shouldn't > try to check for every possible MTA configuration under the sun. > Maybe you wrote your own MTA? How would

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:14:10PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 10:08, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > [...] > > There is another important objective: "doing the right thing". It is > > simply not acceptable to lose mail. Even if it isn't fetchmail's fault, > > fetchmail should be faul

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

> Why did you write getmail? Why not just use fetchmail? > >I do not like some of the design choices which were made with >fetchmail. getmail does things a little differently, and for my >purposes, better. In addition, most people find getmail easier to >confi

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-05 19:57:02 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > This seems to depend at least somewhat on the pop3 daemon on the other > end. My current one (courier) seems to mark messages as "seen", so > fetchmail just deletes them in future, instead of downloading. I don't want to use a server-side flag, sinc

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-04 20:34:18 -0600, Jacob S. wrote: > All the Debian installations I've ever done asked me to choose one of > four choices for configuring the delivery system. And every fetchmail > installation I've done had the option to tell it which user to deliver > the mail to, making it nice and st

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 16:54, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system did. > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, > I wouldn't have lost mail. In every s

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 10:08, Bijan Soleymani wrote: [...] > There is another important objective: "doing the right thing". It is > simply not acceptable to lose mail. Even if it isn't fetchmail's fault, > fetchmail should be fault-tolerant (deal with a misconfigured mail > system). Fetchmail should

Re: The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?)

I am not disputing unix philosophy. I am disputing the "if I pipe data to another program, I am not responsible for what happens" non-sense. It's not nonsense. fetchmail's authors can't be held responsible for you not configuring your MTA correctly. And they certainly shouldn't try to check for

Re: The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supportsunreliable connections?)

> On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:34:09AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:08, Bijan Soleymani wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:42:40PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: >> > > > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Moniq

Re: The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?)

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:34:09AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:08, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:42:40PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > > > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y.

The Unix Philosophy (was Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?)

On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:08, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:42:40PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > >> That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; t

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:42:40PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system > >> did. > > > > In some sense, yes. Bu

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:36:34PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre said > Is there a POP3 mail fetcher that wouldn't download messages twice > when the POP3 connection may sometimes stall (so that the messages > couldn't be deleted from the server)? This seems to depend at least somewhat on the pop3 daemon

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 01:42:34AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2003-11-04 15:42:40 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I > > > wouldn't have lost mail. > > >

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:42:34 +0100 Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2003-11-04 15:42:40 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > If you're stupid enough to type 'rm -rf' in your root directory, it's > your problem. *You* are t

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-04 15:42:40 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I > > wouldn't have lost mail. > > And if I hadn't typed 'rm -rf' in my root directory, I wouldn't have > lost

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system >> did. > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I > wouldn't have lost mail. An

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system did. In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I wouldn't have lost mail. > You're absolutely right -- a misconfigured MTA is dangerous and can >

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:28:21AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 19:06, Pigeon wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 05:38:44AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:36, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > Is there a POP3 mail fetcher that wouldn't download messages t

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 09:04 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > On 2003-11-03 21:43:26 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> Whatever you think about what a mail fetcher should be doing, >> shouldn't you read at least the first paragraph of the man page >> before using a tool? > > This isn't sufficient:

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-04 00:28:21 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Btw, is your ppp connection that bad that it can't stay up for 5 > minutes? In general I use ADSL, but sometimes I'm in a place where I only have a dial-up connection, and I often had a connection freeze after 2 or 3 minutes. -- Vincent Lefèvre

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-03 21:43:26 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > The very first paragraph in `man fetchmail` says > > fetchmail is a mail-retrieval and forwarding utility; it > fetches mail from remote mailservers and forwards it to > your local (client) machine's del

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 19:06, Pigeon wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 05:38:44AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:36, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > Is there a POP3 mail fetcher that wouldn't download messages twice > > > when the POP3 connection may sometimes stall (so that the

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 01:22 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > On 2003-11-03 18:28:57 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Really? Do you know how? > > Yes: fetchmail sent the mail to the local SMTP server, and there was a > configuration problem. IMHO, a mail fetcher should never use this > method by d

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 05:38:44AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:36, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Is there a POP3 mail fetcher that wouldn't download messages twice > > when the POP3 connection may sometimes stall (so that the messages > > couldn't be deleted from the server)?

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-03 18:28:57 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 15:52, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2003-11-03 05:38:44 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Have you tried fetchmail? > > > > It is easy to lose mail with fetchmail (and I did lose mail in the past > > with it). > > Really? Do

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 15:52, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2003-11-03 05:38:44 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Have you tried fetchmail? > > It is easy to lose mail with fetchmail (and I did lose mail in the past > with it). Really? Do you know how? > > The messages in /var/log/mail.log seem to ind

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On 2003-11-03 05:38:44 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Have you tried fetchmail? It is easy to lose mail with fetchmail (and I did lose mail in the past with it). > The messages in /var/log/mail.log seem to indicate that it deletes > each mail after a successful fetch. How does it do that? I've been

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

- Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 05:38 Subject: Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections? > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:36, Vincent Lefe

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:36, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is there a POP3 mail fetcher that wouldn't download messages twice > when the POP3 connection may sometimes stall (so that the messages > couldn't be deleted from the server)? > > If there is such a fetcher written in Perl based on Mail::POP3Cl

RE: POP3 daemon recommendation?

> qpopper Enhanced Post Office Protocol server (POP3). I have used this and found it to be very, very easy to setup and use. I moved to an IMAP server fairly soon afterwards, so I cannot comment on how it performs over time. Matt Children's Cancer Institute Australia is the only indepen

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