Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-03 Thread Rob Weir
003 14:09:41 -0600 Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Newbie administrator > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:09:41 -0600 > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: &g

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:09, Will Trillich wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > > * Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > > > > > Is there a good book for beginner admin's like me? > > > > apt-get install rutebook > > > > under woody i get > > #

RE: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread Hell.Surfers
someone please shut him up. McEwan Family On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:09:41 -0600 Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Begin Message --- On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > * Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > > > Is there a good book for beginner admin's l

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On Saturday 01 March 2003 22:51, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Will: think recursively in order to answer both questions. For there to be a reasonable use of recursion it has to have a stopping condition. GNU and RUTE does not have a stopping condition, hence it is not reasonable to use any of them.

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 09:31:56PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 14:09:41 -0600, Will Trillich wrote: > > as i recall, mr. sheer had the source online for critique and i asked him > > what "rute" was in "R ute U sers T utorial and E xposition" and he just > > sent me a

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 14:09:41 -0600, Will Trillich wrote: > as i recall, mr. sheer had the source online for critique and i asked him > what "rute" was in "R ute U sers T utorial and E xposition" and he just > sent me a smiley. > > i'm guessing it's a homonym with a spelling different enough to

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread Will Trillich
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > * Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > > > Is there a good book for beginner admin's like me? > > apt-get install rutebook under woody i get # apt-get install rutebook Reading Package Lists... Done

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-03-01 Thread Will Trillich
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:57:29AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > > > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do > > this: > > > > chmod -R 700 /home/* > > What if you don't want to make all files executable writable

Re: Newbie administrator - chmod

2003-02-27 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:27:39AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > little detail that, in order to get them to do anything harmful, you > > need root privileges. And once an attacker is root, the 750 > > permissions won't stop him anyhow. It only protects against people > > who can't do any harm in t

Re: Newbie administrator - chmod

2003-02-27 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:42:43PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > and if i was admining your box... i'd "chmod 750 /sbin /usr/sbin" > > and hide/remove root passwds so that i can sleep late or wont be > > paged because something broke > > ...which, even

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:42:07PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > find /home -type l -exec chmod 777 {} \; > Now, one bash question I've been meaning to ask for a long time... > > I keep seeing this... > {} \; > > ...on the end of lines in bash scripts. I don't have a good bash book, > an

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:42:43PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > and if i was admining your box... i'd "chmod 750 /sbin /usr/sbin" > and hide/remove root passwds so that i can sleep late or wont be > paged because something broke ...which, even if it doesn't break things (like another poster's mention

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do this: > > chmod -R 700 /home/* What if you don't want to make all files executable writable and readable in everyone's directory? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:42:07PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > Now, one bash question I've been meaning to ask for a long time... > > I keep seeing this... > {} \; > > ...on the end of lines in bash scripts. I don't have a good bash book, > and I don't know what this means, and obviously "man

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:02:08PM -0500, Phil wrote: > >The command to do that is chmod, man chmod should get you started. in > >this case, chmod 700 is what I did. > > do I have to do this individually for each user? (all 120 of them) is > there a way to do this in the skel directory in. the f

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Storey
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:42:43 -0800 (PST) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and if i was admining your box... i'd "chmod 750 /sbin /usr/sbin" > and hide/remove root passwds so that i can sleep late or wont be > paged because something broke Two questions: 1) OK, I understand why "chmod 750 /

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Storey
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:42:43 -0800 (PST) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > > > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do > > this: > > > > chmod -R 700 /home/* > > after you learn from your mistakes ... an

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:21:12PM -0500, Phil wrote: > Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? > You can install everyone of the following (that is on sarge) with apt: debian-reference - A metapackage to install all translations of Debian Referencedebian-reference-common - common

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Nick Hastings
* Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? apt-get install rutebook Then have look at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/rute.html Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux onefish 2.4.20-lavienx #1 Mon Jan 6 17:03:01 JST 2003 i686 unknow

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Monte Milanuk
Phil wrote: Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? Try the Linux Administration Handbook by Nemeth, Snyder, and Hein. Same authors of the famous Unix Administration Handbook, same style, but more specific to Linux. Deals w/ RedHat 7.2, SuSE 7.3, and Debian 3.0 specifically, but

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do this: > > chmod -R 700 /home/* after you learn from your mistakes ... and have everybody mad at you... how do you recover ??? - think you're in for a lon

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Robert Storey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030226 16:31]: > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do this: > > chmod -R 700 /home/* Great googa mooga ... I hope I never have an account on a system you admin. IMO, you have no right to clobber all of your users' f

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 08:05:18AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:13:59 -0500 (EST) > Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Phil wrote: > > > do I have to do this individually for each user? (all 120 of them) is > > > there a way to do this in the s

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Robert Storey
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:13:59 -0500 (EST) Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Phil wrote: > > > >I think this should work, anyways :) > > > > > do I have to do this individually for each user? (all 120 of them) is > > there a way to do th

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Phil wrote: > >I think this should work, anyways :) > > > do I have to do this individually for each user? (all 120 of them) is > there a way to do this in the skel directory in. the future Well, set it for one user, and see if others can get

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Phil
At 02:45 PM 2/26/03 -0500, you wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Phil wrote: > I am running the only Debian server in the NYC Dept. of Education. > 1. running Samba correctly (is there a way to hide the configuration files > in the home directory?) I ended up just deleting those files, as I don't have u

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Carla Schroder
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 11:21 am, Phil wrote: > I am running the only Debian server in the NYC Dept. of Education. > > Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? Ay yi yi! Lotsa luck! Sign up for 'Safari Books' on O'Reilly, http://safari.oreilly.com/, for cheep monies you'll get

Re: Newbie administrator

2003-02-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 13:21, Phil wrote: --snip-- > 3. running NFS & NIS - here is the problem > I set up all users on the server with user directories in /home (of course) > with the /home directory exported "rw". on the client machines (SuSE > because it is so easy to install and configure) I