Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/6/13, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> Ralf Mardorf writes: >> > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: >> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warni

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-07 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 04:37:45PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: > > > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Gary Roach
On 12/06/2013 02:44 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 14:04 -0800, Gary Roach wrote: After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to KDE. I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk space, 4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, December 06, 2013 05:04:49 PM Gary Roach wrote: > On 12/06/2013 01:56 AM, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:35:30AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > with acroread (on start): > > (acroread:30504): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in > module_path:

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 14:04 -0800, Gary Roach wrote: > After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to KDE. > I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk space, > 4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid. I like it and > have never liked Gno

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 14:04:49 -0800 Gary Roach wrote: > > > After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to > KDE. I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk > space, 4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid. I like > it and have never liked

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Gary Roach
On 12/06/2013 01:56 AM, Reco wrote: On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:35:30AM +0100, François Patte wrote: with acroread (on start): (acroread:30504): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "xfce", The acroread needs i386 libraries from gtk2-engines-xfce package. If I try to i

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:57:55 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 08:20:56, Joe wrote: > > > > I had used the fallback mode, but I then wandered off and tried Xfce > > and LXDE, and stayed with the latter. It's a pig to get the Debian > > menu to display on LXDE, if you use that, and I

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 19:40 +, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:54:28 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, I can't contribute more to this thread, since I already > > pointed everything out. > > > > OK, that's a good one. And it's meant with a ";)". But I really thought it won

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:54:28 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm sorry, I can't contribute more to this thread, since I already > pointed everything out. > OK, that's a good one. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 17:19 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > That does not mean that I am against graphic output. Ralf's sound > samples and my graphs and icons are graphical objects. With you can > have several terminals and copy and paste text among each other. > > What I don't like is the posit

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Brian
On Thu 05 Dec 2013 at 18:24:13 -0500, Bo Lan wrote: > Although I am not sure if XFCE or LXDE is good or bad, I am kind of > agree with your opinion about the usability under such an free X driver. > According to Debian's policy, Debian is an organization that highly > respects completely free soft

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Reco writes: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Ralf Mardorf writes: > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:54 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Reco
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings, > > > > > > I disagree.

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:54 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings, > > > > > > I disagree. My .xse

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Ralf Mardorf writes: > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings, > > > > I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings. > > What DE do you u

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:26 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:17:20PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:23 +0400, Reco wrote: > > I just stay clear of anything that's linked against > > libgconf.so. > > The real issues are caused by libdconf, libgconf is quasi obsolet. I > already must install libdconf for audio producti

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 12:17 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > Very likely that > > > > even GNOME doesn't continue using GTK

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Reco
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:17:20PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > This are not Xfce, KDE > > > > etc. bugs and they are

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Reco
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings. > > What DE do you use? It's new to me that there aren't those issues > outside GNOME. There's nothing the other DEs

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > This are not Xfce, KDE > > > etc. bugs and they are also not Debian related, this is caused by > > > GTK/GNOME upstream's ignora

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings, > > I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings. What DE do you use? It's new to me that there aren't those

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread François Patte
Le 06/12/2013 10:52, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 10:35 +0100, François Patte wrote: >> Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit : >>> Hi. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Reco
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings, I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings. > but GTK also does > cause really serious issues, if you e.g. launch a GNOME editor with root > privileges, th

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 06 dec 13, 12:29:14, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > Maybe there's a wiki page on the topic? If not, maybe we could start one? > > Or debian-ot@... :) Why off-topic? This is Debian related. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debia

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 06 dec 13, 08:20:56, Joe wrote: > > I had used the fallback mode, but I then wandered off and tried Xfce > and LXDE, and stayed with the latter. It's a pig to get the Debian menu > to display on LXDE, if you use that, and I don't know if Xfce has the > same trouble. I seem to recall you me

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Reco
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:35:30AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > >> with acroread (on start): > >> > >> (acroread:30504): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in > >> module_path: "xfce", > > > > The acroread needs i386 libraries from gtk2-engines-xfce package. > > If I try to install t

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 10:35 +0100, François Patte wrote: > Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit : > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > >> It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the > >> choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread François Patte
Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit : > Hi. > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: >> It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the >> choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to >> launch my stuff, there are a lot of warn

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 12:51 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > > It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the > > choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to > > launch my stuff, there are

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the > choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to > launch my stuff, there are a lot of warnings, for instance: > > when I quit evince:

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread François Patte
Le 05/12/2013 22:46, Stephen Powell a écrit : > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such an X driver

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:13:04 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will > > be my DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not > > that good at the momen

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:07:44 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> ... >> I hope Debian will make XFCE the >> default desktop for the production jessie installer. > > It is for the time being. > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.g

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/6/13, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing >> Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely, and just use a >> full-featured window manager and a few utilities. I found Openb

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing > Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely, and just use a > full-featured window manager and a few utilities. I found Openbox with > LXPanel works just fine. L

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such an X driver.

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 18:24 -0500, Bo Lan wrote: > I am still a new user, and don't know if we can report a bug to Debian > to say that, GNOME SHELL or Foo Desktop Environment is not usable under > 2D free video card driver or such. Actually, I hope Debian can patch > those DE, free drivers, and so

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Bo Lan
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:46 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:13 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my > > DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not that good at > > the moment, but

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my > DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not that good at > the moment, but since LXDE is similar ok as Xfce is, it might be > interesting to w

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:46 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-06-05 Thread Kailash
On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:14:36 -0400 Harry Prevor wrote: > On 6/3/13, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > > I tried the install a couple of days ago on my laptop. I got an > > offer to resize > > my windows partition. Can't recall getting an option to install > > inside the NTFS partition. > > Correct me if

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Prevor
On 6/3/13, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > I tried the install a couple of days ago on my laptop. I got an offer to > resize > my windows partition. Can't recall getting an option to install inside the > NTFS partition. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I *believe* how goodbye-microsoft works is that it inst

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-06-03 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Monday 03 Jun 2013 6:50:03 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > The reviews I read said the same or similar, but an Aussie tech > > magazine from 2007 said that after the standard installer starts, > > Debian is installed as a single file on the Windows partition--no > > partitioning needed. > > That w

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-06-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The reviews I read said the same or similar, but an Aussie tech > magazine from 2007 said that after the standard installer starts, > Debian is installed as a single file on the Windows partition--no > partitioning needed. That was not the case for me. I was offered to resize the ntfs partition

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 mai 13, 22:30:37, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The reviews I read said the same or similar, but an Aussie tech > magazine from 2007 said that after the standard installer starts, > Debian is installed as a single file on the Windows partition--no > partitioning needed. I've done a few win3

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-05-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 12 May 2013, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 09:07:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Been reading about this install method, but can't find anything more > > current than about 4 or 5 years ago. It seems that "goodbye" > > installs Debian onto Windows' C: drive as a single

Re: goodbye-microsoft.com Install?

2013-05-11 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 09:07:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Been reading about this install method, but can't find anything more > current than about 4 or 5 years ago. It seems that "goodbye" installs > Debian onto Windows' C: drive as a single large file, and that is where > it is run from.

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:00:27PM -0400, Hal Vaughan was heard to say: > Also, by the time I started using Java, I had learned that many times > when I write something, I'm revisiting later and have forgotten it, so > making sure my Javadoc comments were clear enough that I wouldn't have >

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-26 Thread Cowley Harris
>Given the ghastliness of maintaining Perl code I've had to maintain perl code at work, so you have my sympathies. But in Perl's defense, it's not a necessary characteristic of Perl to be hard to maintain. It's just the inherent flexibility of the language that makes it easier to write "Write On

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-25 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
Thus spoke Master Foo: >Uncommented code can be a nightmare in ANY language! and Nubi was enlightened. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: Hi, 2009/6/25 明覺 : I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you debian guys, so I leave this m

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-25 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: > Hi, > 2009/6/25 明覺 : > > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion > > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you > > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no > > at

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-25 Thread Daryl Styrk
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:08:34AM -0500, Allen Meyers wrote: > I have not followed this thread and getting in only at the end but it > caught my attention simply because I left Ubuntu for the very same > reason, but my ire was directed towards the idiots not the experienced > users. > I have tried

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-25 Thread Allen Meyers
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion >> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you >> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debi

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-25 Thread Daryl Styrk
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no > attraction to me anymore, I will stop using i

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, 2009/6/25 明覺 : > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no > attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now. > As I have decalared

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Aioanei Rares
明覺 wrote: > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no > attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now. > As I have decalared, I will

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
明覺 wrote: > As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a > "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way. > Good bye! :) Good luck! It really is a shame that apparently no one stepped in to help you reprogram a great part of the debian archives in c/c++. To some estimations that's jus

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-25 04:26:53, schrieb Oliver Schneider: > > As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a > > "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way. > However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't > imagine shell scripting that way - well, if you take "Only One > Pro

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Oliver Schneider
> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a > "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way. However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't imagine shell scripting that way - well, if you take "Only One Programming Lanuguage" serious that is ... ;) > Good bye! :)

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Adriano Trentini wrote: > Goodbye, Mr. Shi. > However, I always received many help from debian users. > > --- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 escreveu: > > De: 明覺 > Assunto: Goodbye debian > Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Data: Quarta-feira, 24 de Junho de 2009, 21:26 >

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Adriano Trentini
Goodbye, Mr. Shi. However, I always received many help from debian users. --- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 escreveu: De: 明覺 Assunto: Goodbye debian Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org Data: Quarta-feira, 24 de Junho de 2009, 21:26 I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion anymore

Re: Goodbye debian

2009-06-24 Thread Victor Padro
2009/6/24 明覺 : > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no > attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now. > As I have decalared, I

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-13 Thread Angus Auld
--- Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 10/01/2008, Michelle Konzack > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts: > >>> I've gotten a lot of good information from this > list, and hopefully > >>> supplied some as well, but I'm

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 10/01/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10/01/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts: > > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully > > supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of > > spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any long

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-08 08:09:58, schrieb Joel Roberts: > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully > supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of > spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers > can implement some anti-spam measures,

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 04:51:36PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: > > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully > > supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of > > spam e-mails weekly to pursu

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Shane D
Yeah... It kind of sounds like "I want attention and to harp on something that has been done to death..." On 1/8/08, Mark Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joel Roberts pinkardcc.com> writes: > > > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, > > and hopefully supplied some as well,

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
Joel Roberts pinkardcc.com> writes: > I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, > and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through > hundreds > of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can > implement some anti-spam measures, I’ll

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread David
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 17:23, David wrote: Joel Roberts wrote: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement s

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 17:23, David wrote: Joel Roberts wrote: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measur

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread David
Joel Roberts wrote: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measures, I’ll be happy to join again i

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Ok, goodbye! Don't forget to write. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Adrian Chapela
Thierry Chatelet escribió: On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can i

RE: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Joel Roberts
No, it hasn't. I've continued getting them right up until I sent the unsubscribe message. From: Chris Howie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:41 AM To: Joel Roberts Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Goodbye

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully > supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of > spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers > can implement some anti-spam m

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 8, 2008 10:45 AM, Joel Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, it hasn't. I've continued getting them right up until I sent the > unsubscribe message. > About 20 minutes ago this was posted: http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry080108-144308 -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.co

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 8, 2008 10:09 AM, Joel Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully > supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam > e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can > implement som

Re: goodbye microsoft hangs at grub prompt

2007-07-08 Thread Kent West
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Robert Millan wrote: [ Please CC me in your reply ] Do you see any error before getting to grub prompt? I think there is some error before the grub prompt appears. However, it goes by so fast that I do not know what the error is or if it is in fact an

Re: goodbye microsoft hangs at grub prompt

2007-07-08 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Robert Millan wrote: > > [ Please CC me in your reply ] > > Do you see any error before getting to grub prompt? > I think there is some error before the grub prompt appears. However, it goes by so fast that I do not know what the error is or if it is in fact an error in the first place. > W

Re: goodbye microsoft hangs at grub prompt

2007-07-08 Thread Robert Millan
[ Please CC me in your reply ] Do you see any error before getting to grub prompt? Which version of Windows were you using? -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To

Re: goodbye microsoft hangs at grub prompt

2007-07-08 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 06 July 2007 12:17 pm, you wrote: > On 06/07/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tried to install Debian from windows by going to > > http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ . After rebooting the computer and > > selecting the debian installer, I was placed at the grub prompt.

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-29 Thread Micha Feigin
Considering I started using debian (and linux) with bo on a 486 with no previous linux/unix experience, (has it really been that long ago ;-) I am quite happy with the woody installer doing a minimal install and then dist-upgrading to unstable. I am planning to try the new installer in a couple of

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Paul William
hi, dist-upgrade to sarge or unstable. I run unstable and find it more stable than other 'stable' dists. Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Hello, I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical bugs and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will hardly ever b

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 06:10:52PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. M?rz 2004 19:04 schrieben Sie: > > [...] > > > You don't really run workstations directly on the internet do you? > > I do. > > > You might consider getting yourself some kind of hardware based > > firewall/NAT b

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Tom Allison
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Sonntag, 28. MÃrz 2004 19:07 schrieb Colin Watson: [...] I fear that sarge is too unstable for my daily work, and I've heard really bad things about debian-installer. You should test it for yourself and send reports, please, rather than going on really bad things you h

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Richard Kimber
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:07:02 +0100 Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > KDE I use is a backported one and it runs quit stable, too. I fear > > that sarge is too unstable for my daily work, and I've heard really Fear not. I've been using sarge since 3.0 came out and have never had stabili

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 08:45:52PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 05:45:29PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > What about security? I'm online all the time my computer is on. Are the > > sarge versions of iptables and ssh stable enough to give me good security? > > If yo

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Hello, > > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of release-critical bugs > and was shocked. The RCB diagramm seems to suggest that sarge will hardly > ever be released as stable. > > I'm asking myself what the im

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 20:45 schrieb Micha Feigin: > [...] > > What about security? I'm online all the time my computer is on. Are the > > sarge versions of iptables and ssh stable enough to give me good > > security? If you have a non-Debian distribution, you may get quick > > security updat

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 05:45:29PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. M?rz 2004 18:32 schrieb Jody Grafals: > > I think for the most part many running debian on the desktop are already > > using sarge or sid, and I must say I am run several servers with woody, > > I like it just the w

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard
Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Were the gaps between releases ever so large as the gap between woody and > sarge? Wikipedia says that the distance between Potato and Woody was somewhat similar: 3.1* -- sarge, expected in 2004 3.0 -- woody, July 19th, 2002 2.2 -- potato, Augu

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Travis Crump
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Were the gaps between releases ever so large as the gap between woody and sarge? Alexis Wolfgang Potato=8/14/2000, Woody=7/19/2002: Debian has three more months before it matches the last gap... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Goodbye stable?

2004-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:06 schrieb Colin Watson: >> [...] > >> The release team is likely to remove unimportant packages with >> release-critical bugs once the installer is ready. > > When is the installer expected to be ready? Real Soon Now...w

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