On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:12, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:00:46PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> [You seem to be breaking attributions - who said this?]
>
> > > Why can't the installer ask what the CPU is and if it's an x86 then use
> > > kudzu and if it isn't don't? Wou
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:51:15 +0100
Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:09:45 +0100
> Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > on Mon, Aug 11, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a buzzword to reference?
> >
> > Yes. Po
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:09:45 +0100
Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on Mon, Aug 11, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > Is there a buzzword to reference?
>
> Yes. Portability.
>
> The same Debian Installer runs on 11 different architectures. Knoppix
> doesn't.
>
Hi,
You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that folks can
experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish to do so. Best of
all it's Debian based... I have had a look at it and was impressed by it.
cheers
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:48:14PM -0700, Lo
Luc Lefebvre wrote:
I agree,
Koppix does a great job of hardware detection and system configuration. This is one thing that tends to scare off linux neophites. Getting this *right* is very important IMHO, and Knoppix is a big step in the right direction in that respect. The second one is keepi
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:35:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >>
> >> I found the hardware detection excellent!
> >>
> >> IMHO this is one area that Debian needs some work.
> >
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 03:51:36PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Andrew Malcolmson wrote:
>
> >Sure portability sounds nice, but what is a "hppa", anyway? How many
> >users still run sparcs? Why should I as a user have to
>
>
> I put Debian on a SunBlade 150 last year. This week I plan to attempt
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:13:10AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> David Fokkema wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 05:03:03PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It's been a year, so my memory is hazy, but I probably started with
> >>Potato (or whatever was stable then) and then upgraded to Sid. I n
I agree,
Koppix does a great job of hardware detection and system configuration. This is one
thing that tends to scare off linux neophites. Getting this *right* is very important
IMHO, and Knoppix is a big step in the right direction in that respect. The second
one is keeping the system up t
David Fokkema wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 03:51:36PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
I put Debian on a SunBlade 150 last year. This week I plan to attempt to
put it on four SunBlade 2000s for a university computer lab. I've also
got it on my Macintosh G4. And I'm very glad Debian is ported to thes
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:23:24PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:13:10AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > Bummer. I had administrator access to our Sparc server for using as a
> > tftp server, but I reckon in a case like yours, you might could have
> > created a mini-LAN wit
on Tue, Aug 12, 2003, Andrew Malcolmson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> The Social Contract states "we will be guided by the needs of our
> users". Has anyone done a poll on how many Debian users still run
> non-i386 systems?
You seem bothered about it. Are you volunteering?
> Sure portability so
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On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:48:14PM -0700, Loren M Lang wrote:
> I'm looking for a good debian-based distro with a good and user friendly
> install program.
Xandros? Knoppix?
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.''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: :' :proud Debian a
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:30:49 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
> > Because Debian is available for nearly ever hardware out there.
> > http://www.debian.org/ports
> >
> > Redhat supports significantly less platforms.
> > http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/platfo
David Fokkema wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 05:03:03PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
It's been a year, so my memory is hazy, but I probably started with
Potato (or whatever was stable then) and then upgraded to Sid. I never
could boot [the Sparc SunBlade 150] off of local media; I resorted to a tf
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:00:46PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[You seem to be breaking attributions - who said this?]
> > Why can't the installer ask what the CPU is and if it's an x86 then use
> > kudzu and if it isn't don't? Wouldn't that work on all platforms? Or
> > can't an x86 CPU be
Andrew Malcolmson wrote:
Sure portability sounds nice, but what is a "hppa", anyway? How many
users still run sparcs? Why should I as a user have to
I put Debian on a SunBlade 150 last year. This week I plan to attempt to
put it on four SunBlade 2000s for a university computer lab. I've also
> Hi,
>
> You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that folks
> can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish to
> do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I have had a look at it and was
> impressed by it.
>
> cheers
>
I found the hardware detection
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:09:45 +0100
> Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> on Mon, Aug 11, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >
>> > Is there a buzzword to reference?
>>
>> Yes. Portability.
>>
>> The same Debian Installer runs on 11 different architectures. Knoppix
>>
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 01:48, Loren M Lang wrote:
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> I'm looking for a good debian-based distro with a good and user friendly
> install program. I love debian much better than redhat based distros
> mostly for the packaging system, especially all
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Andrew Malcolmson wrote:
> The Social Contract states "we will be guided by the needs of our
> users".
You left out "...and the free software community" the Free Software
community is not interested in being locked into architectures any more
than it is interested in being
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 02:28:38AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> From: Loren M Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian-User Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Good Debian-based distro
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> I'm looking for a good debian-based distro wi
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:35:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that folks
> > can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish to
> > do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I have had a look
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 05:03:03PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> David Fokkema wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 03:51:36PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I put Debian on a SunBlade 150 last year. This week I plan to attempt to
> >>put it on four SunBlade 2000s for a university computer lab.
on Mon, Aug 11, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> And Knoppix uses Kudzu
> And Kudzu is available as a Debian package
>
> Then why don't we (Debian) use Kudzu as an installation tool?
How many of the 11 official architectures does Kudzu run on?
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:26, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 02:28:38AM -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > From: Loren M Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Debian-User Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Good Debian-based distro
> >
>
> You might want to try burning them
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
> Because Debian is available for nearly ever hardware out there.
> http://www.debian.org/ports
>
> Redhat supports significantly less platforms.
> http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/platform/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/9/en/os/
> shows only i386. They can afford to t
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 11:48:14PM -0700, Loren M Lang wrote:
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> I'm looking for a good debian-based distro with a good and user friendly
> install program. I love debian much better than redhat based distros
> mostly for the packaging system, es
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:30:49 -0400 (EDT)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
>> > Because Debian is available for nearly ever hardware out there.
>> > http://www.debian.org/ports
>> >
>> > Redhat supports significantly less platforms.
>> > http://gd.tuwien.a
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:35:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that
>> folks
>> > can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish
>> to
>> > do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I hav
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A quickie search shows that Knoppix uses Kudzu which is originally
> supplied by RedHat and is now available as a Debian package.
>
> So...
>
> If Knoppix has better hardware detection than base Debian
> And Knoppix uses Kudzu
>
on Mon, Aug 11, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Is there a buzzword to reference?
Yes. Portability.
The same Debian Installer runs on 11 different architectures. Knoppix
doesn't.
If a decision was made to break the installer on platforms such as hppa
and sparc in favour o
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:35:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that
>> folks
>> > can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish
>> to
>> > do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I hav
On Sunday 10 August 2003 8:48 am, Loren M Lang wrote:
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> I'm looking for a good debian-based distro with a good and user friendly
> install program. I love debian much better than redhat based distros
> mostly for the packaging system, especially
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