Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-09 Thread dman
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:23:16AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.09.0118 +0100]: | > (I can't filter on IPs anyways since 99.99% of my mail comes out of | > pony-express.cs.rit.edu due to my .forward file there, if you use | > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" it

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.09.0118 +0100]: > What does it take to setup an RBL domain? My guess is that you just > need a DNS server. pretty much. to RBL an IP 1.2.3.4, you create two entries in a zone, say rbl.madduck.net (which happens to be one btw...) 4.3.2.1 IN A 127.0.0.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-08 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:40:06AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach Karsten M. Self [2002.01.07.2215 +0100]: | > ...how would one do this via procmail, filtering on 'Recieved' | > lines? Anything from this domain should be forwarded to a spam | > complain addresses and shitcanned. |

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-08 Thread Ian Balchin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. procmail) to > filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" like myself can learn > to do? I am also just about to invest time in procmail send an email

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.08.0235 +0100]: > > you are doing apt-get upgrade and it tries to upgrade to woody. > > no, i'm not. i'm doing apt-get upDATE and then apt-get install ... > it's not like it tries to remove the old gimp, and then install the > new one, or l

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Tue, 08 Jan 2002 12:33:55AM +0100, marTin insinuated: > that's the problem with apt in potato, it can't pin. do you still > have that debian.madduck.net line in /etc/apt/source.list? i could > offer a kernel update and the package compiled and ready for > potato... yup, still there. that could

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Karsten M. Self [2002.01.07.2215 +0100]: > $ nmap -sL 216.242.0-255.0-255 i think i'd prefer 216.242.0.0/16 ... > ...how would one do this via procmail, filtering on 'Recieved' lines? > Anything from this domain should be forwarded to a spam complain > addresses and shitcanned.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.2205 +0100]: > > so if you really want to install it, > > yes, i do; that's why i wrote to the list. you have an irrefutable point, turkey! > > then comment your potato/stable entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and > > provide similar one

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:05:32PM -0500, dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:20:12AM -0500, Jens Gecius wrote: > | dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > | > | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:27:32PM +0100, marTin insinuated: > apt-get in potato can't handle multiple distributions. that would explain it. > first of all, you'd need entries for potato and sid in > /etc/apt/sources.list (which i don't think you have since *i* didn't > put them there), right, wel

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.1541 +0100]: > Except for this morning I woke to see a hundred emails filtered into my > spam folder by spamassasin after it was upgraded via apt yesterday. > Email from lists, people I know aren't in relays, etc. damn, and i *just* upgraded.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Brian Clark
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 07. 2002 04:16]: > spamassassin is quite nice and *s* easy... Except for this morning I woke to see a hundred emails filtered into my spam folder by spamassasin after it was upgraded via apt yesterday. Email from lists, people I know aren't in relays

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.0605 +0100]: > No, you have only DoS'd yourself. The config I posted only checks the > blacklist of the local user the message is addressed to, not all > local users' blacklists. very cool. exim is moving up the list! > One of these days I'll look

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Paul E Condon
MH wrote: > > "Nori" == Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > Nori> from http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README: " On Debian, > Nori> you can apt-get it from unstable, thanks to Duncan Findlay." > > Nori> debian confirms this at > Nori> http://packages.debia

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:32:54PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.2015 +0100]: | > > the exim setup proposed it surely interesting as it allows SMTP | > > level filtering, but you can only really do this on a single-user | > > system. after some exp

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.2015 +0100]: > > the exim setup proposed it surely interesting as it allows SMTP > > level filtering, but you can only really do this on a single-user > > system. after some experience with anti-spam filtering, i have > > decided that system-wide fil

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 04:54:46PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach Jens Gecius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.1520 +0100]: | > OK, so, could you post your scripts? That might be very helpful for | > others. | > | > Another question: you check in exim if that sender is a spam-address.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:20:12AM -0500, Jens Gecius wrote: | dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: | > | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. | > | procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unw

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jens Gecius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.1520 +0100]: > OK, so, could you post your scripts? That might be very helpful for > others. > > Another question: you check in exim if that sender is a spam-address. > How exactly does that work? Do you just check the headers and then > deny

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Wayne Topa
Nori Heikkinen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > > RTFM: > > man procmail > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/ > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README > > so of course, having written this, and having rtfm'ed myse

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Jens Gecius
dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. > | procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" > | like myself can learn to do? > > If you would like, I

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Joey Hess
Nori Heikkinen wrote: > orange:~# apt-get install spamassassin/unstable > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package spamassassin/unstable > > ? am i doing it wrong? (currently running potato) Well potato's apt does not support that syntax, or pi

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Nori Heikkinen: > on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > > RTFM: > > man procmail > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/ > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README > > so of course, having written this, and having rtfm'ed myself, now i > have a question ... >

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread MH
> "Nori" == Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Nori> from http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README: " On Debian, Nori> you can apt-get it from unstable, thanks to Duncan Findlay." Nori> debian confirms this at Nori> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/interprete

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread pauwel
right command is apt-get -t unstable install spamassassin pauwel Nori Heikkinen wrote: on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: RTFM: man procmail http://spamassassin.taint.org/ http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README so of course, having written this, and

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Martin Würtele
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:46:30AM -0600, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > orange:~# apt-get install spamassassin/unstable > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package spamassassin/unstable > > ? am i doing it wrong? (currently running potato) first you

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.0746 +0100]: > so why can't i do: > > orange:~# apt-get install spamassassin/unstable > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package spamassassin/unstable > > ? am i doing it wrong? (curren

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: <...> > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. > procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" > like myself can learn to do? Google wi

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. | procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" | like myself can learn to do? If you would like, I can send you what I have. I made a script I

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Joel Mayes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. procmail) to > filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" like myself can learn > to do? > apt-get install spamassian then

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 04 Jan 2002 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon insinuated: > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. > procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" > like myself can learn to do? RTFM: man procmail http://spamassassin.taint.org/ http://spamas

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > RTFM: > man procmail > http://spamassassin.taint.org/ > http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README so of course, having written this, and having rtfm'ed myself, now i have a question ... from http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/REA

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-05 Thread Paul E Condon
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:43:46AM -0500, Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi > > > > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is > > probably the number one source for

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:43:46AM -0500, Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi > > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is > probably the number one source for the email address snooping spammers

RE: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread justin cunningham
: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam John Hasler wrote: > I'd rank the Web equal to or above Usenet. I receive a substantial amount > of spam at my debian.org address, and it can only be obtained via the Web. Well, or on cd. -- see shy jo, who sees a new market for debian source cd's :-)

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
John Hasler wrote: > I'd rank the Web equal to or above Usenet. I receive a substantial amount > of spam at my debian.org address, and it can only be obtained via the Web. Well, or on cd. -- see shy jo, who sees a new market for debian source cd's :-)

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Wendell Cochran
Alec writes: >> Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under >> linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! >> Debian mailing lists are archived on the Web and our email addresses aren't >>even scrambled! John writes: > USENET is probably the number one sour

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Alec wrote: > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is You're point? If your mail server has decent spam trapping (which it should), you shouldn't have a problem. I wish lists

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Alec writes: > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! Debian mailing lists are archived on the Web and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! > USENET is probably the number one source for the email ad

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Craig Dickson
Alec wrote: > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is > probably the number one source for the email address snooping spammers. Can > they catch up with all of us one day? The list archives are