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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <4b30e4ee.7010...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>> They are not supported by the "Debian installer kernel".
>> They have to be installed *seperately*.
>
> This is neither true, nor desired.
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:10:31 +0100
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
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> Which wireless is fully supported by debian and free software? I don't
> think there is *any* on the planet that works without proprietary,
> binary non-free code.
Yes, there is. Many Atheros devices are fully supported by the
In <4b30e4ee.7010...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>If there are
>still any non-free drivers present in debian's kernel, those will be
>removed. Some/many non-free, non-GPL or similar drivers are available
>for Debian, but they are not released by Debian. They are not part
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Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Johannes Wiedersich put forth on 12/22/2009 4:10 AM:
>> Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>> Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM:
>
>> All this might be valid statistics, but they are beyond the point. The
>> point in this thread is
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 12:51:46 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Why are you
> trying to beat me over the head with a statement I did not make?
And why are you so determined to rubbish the OP, who gave very valid reasons
for eschewing cabled ethernet?
Why does it, in any way, shape or form, harm you
Johannes Wiedersich put forth on 12/22/2009 4:10 AM:
> Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM:
> All this might be valid statistics, but they are beyond the point. The
> point in this thread is the question from a particular OP who does *not*
> have access to a wired ne
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Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM:
>
>> Many systems don't have wired Ethernet, but may have wireless.
>
> Most systems have wired ethernet. Few have _only_ wireless. Most laptops have
> both. I'd venture to guess th
Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM:
> Many systems don't have wired Ethernet, but may have wireless.
Most systems have wired ethernet. Few have _only_ wireless. Most laptops have
both. I'd venture to guess that the few that only have wireless are the tiny
netbooks. Actually, just chec
> From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:s...@hardwarefreak.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:38 AM
>
> Your scenario is bogus, because all semi-modern PCs have wired ethernet.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!
Well, my laptop has a broken Ethernet port. I could go and spend money on a
USB Ethernet device, b
Quoting Stan Hoeppner on 2009-12-20 15:35:26:
> Local media installs are for pussies, or masochists. ;)
Or those lacking a decent network connection from where the machine will
primarily be used. :)
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> Any PC, desktop or laptop (or server), built in the last 6+ years has built-in
> wired ethernet. (If yours don't have it, you went _way_ out of your way to
> find
> machines without it) So, in your scenario, instead of throwing your hands up
> crying "I can't net install because the wireless car
El lun, 21-12-2009 a las 15:29 +0100, Klistvud escribió:
> Dne, 21. 12. 2009 13:38:01 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a):
> > > while at the same
> > > time wireless is the only connectivity available at your
> > > location/work/home.
>
> Being a non-native English speaker, I may have made myself
> uns
El lun, 21-12-2009 a las 12:45 +0100, Klistvud escribió:
> Dne, 20. 12. 2009 22:35:26 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a):
>
> >
> > To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why
> > anyone would
> > install any Linux distro from local media these days.
>
> For example, if you hav
Dne, 21. 12. 2009 13:38:01 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a):
> while at the same
> time wireless is the only connectivity available at your
> location/work/home.
Being a non-native English speaker, I may have made myself
unsufficiently clear: my scenario is real-life, and by no means
"bogus". I
Klistvud put forth on 12/21/2009 5:45 AM:
> For example, if you have an unsupported wireless card, while at the same
> time wireless is the only connectivity available at your
> location/work/home. It's my situation, precisely: I have no less than
> TWO unsupported wifi cards on (both) my computer
Dne, 20. 12. 2009 22:35:26 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a):
To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why
anyone would
install any Linux distro from local media these days.
For example, if you have an unsupported wireless card, while at the
same time wireless is the only
Rick Thomas wrote:
The Lenny "businesscard" iso at
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-businesscard.iso
is only 36 MBytes.
It contains everything you need to start the installation. It will
dynamically download all the other packages you need for
Rick Thomas put forth on 12/20/2009 4:10 PM:
> Stan's suggestion is correct, in spite of the way he chose to state it
> (let's assume he was being humorous...)
Humor was my intent. I guess this is why I'm a computer geek instead of a stand
up comic. ;)
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 06:12:29PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:35:26PM EST, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why
> > anyone would install any Linux distro from local media these days. By
> > the time the
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:35:26PM EST, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
[..]
> To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why
> anyone would install any Linux distro from local media these days. By
> the time the media hits the shelves, there are hundreds of security
> updates you have
On Dec 20, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Cecil Knutson put forth on 12/20/2009 1:47 PM:
Hello, Osamu,
The system is connected to a home DSL network.
Just do a pure net install and be done with it already.
Hi Cecil,
Stan's suggestion is correct, in spite of the way he chos
Cecil Knutson put forth on 12/20/2009 1:47 PM:
> Hello, Osamu,
> The system is connected to a home DSL network. I did not try to
> download any
> packages, but that doesn't mean the install program didn't. I was using the
> four-DVDs of the standard Etch distribution. It does make sense
Hello, Osamu,
The system is connected to a home DSL network. I did not try to
download any
packages, but that doesn't mean the install program didn't. I was using the
four-DVDs of the standard Etch distribution. It does make sense that the
install would hang if it tried to get files
On 2009-12-20 10:11 +0100, Kevin Ross wrote:
> Etch isn't obsolete, it's "oldstable". It still has security updates.
Which will stop in two months. Why bother installing it when you have
to upgrade to Lenny soon anyway?
> It won't be obsolete until Squeeze is released.
Wrong, the support for
Kevin Ross wrote:
Only Woody and older are on there.
And Sarge. Forgot about Sarge.
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Osamu Aoki wrote:
Etch is obsoleted distribution. Unless you have specific reason, please
use current release: lenny.
http://www.debian.org/distrib/
I have no idea what is hapening on your system. Are you connected to
network and tried to download packages? URL for archive has changed so
old
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:09:46PM -0800, Cecil Knutson wrote:
> Dear List,
> I just tried to install Debian 4.0r4a-i386 (Etch) on a Dell Dimension
> 8400,
> Pentium 4/3.oGHz, 4GB RAM, using two different sets of DVDs.
Pretty powerful one.
> With either set
> of DVDs, the install
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