Re: Compute Farm, Part II (nobody mentioned nfsroot!)

1998-03-04 Thread Terrence Brannon
I'm suprised no-one has mentioned nfsroot to-date. Based on its docs, it could do this quite well. But tryin to understand the docs is hell, and getting it to work even worse, especially when I got no response to my probs f/the maintainer. -- Terrence Brannon * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://lnc.usc

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-13 Thread Behan Webster
Marcelo E. Magallón wrote: > > PPS: Since neither RH nor Debian actually have anything built-in for this > task, Debian is still a better choice: several times ppl in the > developer's list have expressed interest in further developing Deity into > this direction. I know this doesn't buy you anyth

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-13 Thread Jerzy Kakol
Hi all, Except cfengine there is another hopefully better because debian specific solution I discovered recently installing hamm. I mean # dpkg --root=/another_machine_root_dir Think about the great possibilities it gives! Let's assume # mkdir /var/lib/dpkg/DebianFarm # for i in $FarmMachine

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-13 Thread Marcelo E . Magallón
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > The powers-that-be around here have almost decided to scrap Slowaris x86 > for the 200 machine PPro compouter farm, and go with Linux... I need to > convince them to use Debian and not RH. They want to be able to > configure 1 machine and mirror the setup t

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-12 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
>you wouldn'tr want to share /etc tho...because then that shares >everything...which isn't always good >(wouldn't want them all to have the same IP adress) >tho you could mount a shared version of etc and have the shared configs >be sym links to the shared mounted version >but.. something along t

RE: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Stephen Carpenter
That shouldn't be hard Have you though tof using 1 or 2 computers as fileservers? After a quick read of teh FHS (filesystem standard) the setup is made to allow the shareing of large parts of the filesystem between computers. Then anytime you add a program to the system (usually in /usr/bin etc

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Behan Webster wrote: > > Lindsay Allen wrote: > > > > Tim, > > > > IIRC Brian White has advocated cfengine for this task. > > > > If I may, he advocated it because we used it here at Verisim to manage > our workstations and servers. Unfortunately we found although it did > work, it was rather

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Behan Webster
Lindsay Allen wrote: > > Tim, > > IIRC Brian White has advocated cfengine for this task. > If I may, he advocated it because we used it here at Verisim to manage our workstations and servers. Unfortunately we found although it did work, it was rather clumsy, and didn't scale well in our enviro

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > isn't this sort of thing precisely what cfengine is for? cfengine is > > available as a debian package. > > Doh! I knew there was something out there to do this. That's why I asked > the list. Looks like my brain is full.. wh

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-11 Thread Paul Rightley
But I would suggest reading the article anyway. If RedHat makes it "easy" to install on many machines, the group in the article did NOT use such a solution. Instead, they spent time writing some scripts and setting up a generic hdd that they sent to their hardware vendor. The scripts were design

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > > > I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed > > the thread.. > > > > On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in > > adding a package, changing a config file, etc and having the

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Lindsay Allen
Tim, IIRC Brian White has advocated cfengine for this task. HTH Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Unix =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed > the thread.. > > On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machine, as in > adding a package, changing a config file, etc and having the resultant > changes reflected on the

Re: Compute Farm, Part II

1998-02-11 Thread Steve Hsieh
If they are all pretty similar configs, then it sounds like a very easy solution is to use rdist or rsync. On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > I guess I didn't explain real well the first time, although I enjoyed > the thread.. > > On this compute farm, they want to make changes to 1 machi

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > Tim, from my experiences with (much smaller scale but still essentially > > the same) mass-duplication of debian, all you need to do is duplicate the > > hard disk and change half a dozen (or less) file

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > Tim, from my experiences with (much smaller scale but still essentially > the same) mass-duplication of debian, all you need to do is duplicate the > hard disk and change half a dozen (or less) files under /etc: > > /etc/hostname > /etc/

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > The powers-that-be around here have almost decided to scrap Slowaris > x86 for the 200 machine PPro compouter farm, and go with Linux... I > need to convince them to use Debian and not RH. They want to be able > to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > > > Stephen Carpenter wrote: > > > > hmmm just a slightly evil thought > > > anyone tried > > > cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/hdb1 > > > assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types > > > Trie

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread C.J.LAWSON
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > Stephen Carpenter wrote: > > > > Tim Sailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to > > each . . . > > > hmmm just a slightly evil thought > > anyone tried > > cat /dev/hda1 > /dev

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread bhmit1
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > Stephen Carpenter wrote: > > hmmm just a slightly evil thought > > anyone tried > > cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/hdb1 > > assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types > Tried it... doesnt work. The correct answer is "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=hd

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Steve Hsieh
> All that would work if you wanted to take the machines offline to > do that, but these machines are going to be handling 30MB/min of > streaming data for 6 months at a clip. There's no way that would work. :( > > > hmmm just a slightly evil thought > > anyone tried > > cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/h

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Jens Ritter
Hunter H Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tim Sailer wrote: > > > > They want to be able > > to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine > > See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be > of help. The article concerned the use of 160 > Alpha Linux boxes for graphics

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Tim Sailer
Stephen Carpenter wrote: > > Tim Sailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to > each > >machine in the farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199 > and configure > >it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no

RE: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Tim Sailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each >machine in the farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199 and configure >it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no other >dist could do it! Well...there a

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Hunter H Marshall
Behan Webster wrote: > > Hunter H Marshall wrote: > > > > Tim Sailer wrote: > > > > > > They want to be able > > > to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine > > > > See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be > > of help. The article concerned the use of 160 > > Alpha Linu

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Behan Webster
Hunter H Marshall wrote: > > Tim Sailer wrote: > > > > They want to be able > > to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine > > See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be > of help. The article concerned the use of 160 > Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive >

Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Hunter H Marshall
Tim Sailer wrote: > > They want to be able > to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be of help. The article concerned the use of 160 Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive it was the Jan '98 issue. http://www.ssc.c