On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:37:13PM +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there certification courses available for debian ?
As far as I know LPI[0] is the closest you can get.
Sven
[0] http://www.lpi.org/
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:53:19AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Wendell Cochran wrote:
>
> >Hmmm. If I were hiring nowadays, I'd search mailing-list
> >archives for posts by applicants who made the final list. And I'd
> >award demerits, too, for apostrophe's, speling, & similar signs of
> >abus
Wendell Cochran wrote:
Hmmm. If I were hiring nowadays, I'd search mailing-list
archives for posts by applicants who made the final list. And I'd
award demerits, too, for apostrophe's, speling, & similar signs of
abusing everyday tools.
Again; take things with a grain of salt. You missp
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 03:35:04 +
From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than
>> marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeav
on Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than
> marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor?
Here's a slightly pragmatic take on this. Note that I'm not certified
(well,
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:16:50 -0800
From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:21AM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote:
>> I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned
>> hiring the "certified" morons. However, getting certified is never
>> neces
Steve Lamb said:
> make me so. And while the cert doesn't prove that I am the end-all god of
> C++ it does show I know /something/ and that something was enough to get
> the cert.
well maybe you, but for a lot of people it shows they *KNEW* something,
and that something was enough retained knowl
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:49:14 -0800
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, but why would I want to work for a company that doesn't care who
> I am or what I know as long as I've been suckered into spending about
> what I think is a reasonable price for a car for a "magic" piece of
> paper?
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 02:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:18:21PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote:
> > We're not talking about reality here, we're talking about corporate
> > America! :-) I agree that certification doesn't necessarily keep you up
> > to date in reality, but it lo
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 12:09:06AM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote:
> Call me a cynic but I don't know too many companies that are not that
> way unless they are small, privately owned organizations.
That's the problem with the IT industry. Too many assholes want to do
it because it's cool, and then
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:43:48PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> wow, that better not be the general opinion on the market out there,
> or i'll *never* find a job!!
Actually, that harsh reality compounded by dragging the deadweight of
California's electric bill is what's causing the Silicon Fores
Paul Johnson wrote:
Yeah, but why would I want to work for a company that doesn't care who
I am or what I know as long as I've been suckered into spending about
what I think is a reasonable price for a car for a "magic" piece of
paper? Isn't there a fairy tale about this? Didn't the hero get
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:18:21PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote:
> We're not talking about reality here, we're talking about corporate
> America! :-) I agree that certification doesn't necessarily keep you up
> to date in reality, but it looks that way on paper, which unfortunately
> too many pe
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:21AM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote:
I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned
hiring the "certified" morons. However, getting certified is never
necessarily a bad thing. It can be a way to keep up with technolog
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:21AM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote:
> I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned
> hiring the "certified" morons. However, getting certified is never
> necessarily a bad thing. It can be a way to keep up with technology and it
> also sho
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than
> marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor?
Not that I know of. Though if you want n^3 reasons against it, go
cruise alt.sysadmin.recovery or
> Linux certifications (which is what you're probably most interested in,
> since you're asking on this list) are still so new that they're not
> well-known, the only one that seems to be widely known is RHCE because
> Red Hat never misses an opportunity to mention it. How much a Linux
> certificat
On Friday 14 February 2003 19:17, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
> Don't forget about LPI. It's pretty decent, and alot of employers know it
> pretty well.
Really? I did find LPI on a Google of "debian certification" - not that they
offered Debian certification. The price seemed reasonable - $100
On Friday 14 February 2003 18:07, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> on Fri, 14 Feb 2003 04:30:40PM -0500, Mike M insinuated:
> > I saw a post on the French debian user list where someone suggested
> > using the number of your Debian user list posts as your
> > certification rating. Clever.
>
> dude, on my e
Don't forget about LPI. It's pretty decent, and alot of employers know it
pretty well.
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Michael Heironimus wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14,
on Fri, 14 Feb 2003 04:30:40PM -0500, Mike M insinuated:
> I saw a post on the French debian user list where someone suggested
> using the number of your Debian user list posts as your
> certification rating. Clever.
dude, on my end, that would only rate my curiosity / # of things i
break! ;)
on Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:17:09PM -0600, Michael Heironimus insinuated:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> > Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence
> > other than marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile
> > endeavor?
>
> Depends on the c
On Friday 14 February 2003 13:31, deFreese, Barry wrote:
> >-Original Message-
>
> From: Mike M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:16 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Certification
> >
> >
> >Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidenc
deFreese, Barry said:
> Certification is a double-edged sword. I don't know about the Linux world
> yet but in the old Novell days and in the M$ world, many organizations
> will not hire someone who is not "certified", regardless of their true
> experience level or talent.
novell especially. I h
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
> Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than
> marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor?
Depends on the certification. Some carry significantly more weight than
others. And you should als
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:04:33 -0500
Mike M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than
> marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor?
Wow, talk about concurrency. I was just mulling over the question of
Certificati
>-Original Message-
>From: Mike M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:16 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Certification
>
>
>Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than
>marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor
Submitted 23-Jan-02 by martin f krafft:
>>> no. but debian is enough of a clean Linux to make either be a perfect
>>> certification for it. both certs require knowledge of RPM though (as
>>> well as DEB).
>>
>> Ouch. Would be nice if RPM didn't suck harder than CAB...
>
> not entirely true, RPM
At 08:45 AM 1/23/02, martin f krafft wrote:
not quite that harsh. the SAIR test is still a fair test (i should be a
poet), but its emphasis is more on the test itself rather than on the
{knowledge,experience} base it's supposed to certify. does that make sense?
and hey, i warn you: this is all m
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, martin f krafft wrote:
> not quite that harsh. the SAIR test is still a fair test (i should be a
> poet), but its emphasis is more on the test itself rather than on the
> {knowledge,experience} base it's supposed to certify. does that make sense?
Yeah.
> and hey, i warn you:
also sprach Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.23.1437 +0100]:
> > it's non-profit. thius logically means that SAIR might actually be more
> > popular and more respected, but i think that this is unfair to LPI. my
> > experience is that where people know off LPI, it's actually valued
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, martin f krafft wrote:
> it's non-profit. thius logically means that SAIR might actually be more
> popular and more respected, but i think that this is unfair to LPI. my
> experience is that where people know off LPI, it's actually valued
> higher than SAIR. LPI has higher sta
also sprach Stonelx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.23.0831 +0100]:
> Thinking about certification,
> Any suggestions on which route to go?
> Thru LPI? or SAIR?
i am LPI affiliated, so you won't get an unbiased answer from me.
however, before i joined LPI, i researched LPI vs. SAIR and ended up
with
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> LPI covers debian.
>
Or will. The distribution specific exams are vapor right now. Level 1
part 2 had some dpkg and rpm questions though.
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LPI covers debian.
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The Linux Box
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, John Galt wrote:
>
> The week after hell freezes over. I've already suggested it, and was met
> by less than gentility.
>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Howell Caton wro
The week after hell freezes over. I've already suggested it, and was met
by less than gentility.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Howell Caton wrote:
>
>Does anyone know how soon we might expect a certification program for
>Debian Linux.
>Certification is a good way to assure prospective employers that you
idea and run Red Hat 6.2 at home and Debain 2.2.17
at work, and enjoy contrasting the two.
John
-Original Message-
From: Ray Percival [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:46 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; Howell Caton
Subject: Re: certification
IMHO, If you
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-Original Message-
From: Ray Percival [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:46 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; Howell Caton
Subject: Re: certification
IMHO, If you have the knowledge and are doing the certs to impress
employers do the Red Hat
IMHO, If you have the knowledge and are doing the certs to impress
employers do the Red Hat cert. I say this because that is the name
most of them are going to know. Then get the job and do whatever
you want to because most of them won't know a Debian box from a
Red Hat box. At work now I have
LPI certification covers Debian. Its what we support at our shop.
Arthur H. Johnson II
Systems Engineer
The Linux Box
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http://www.linuxbox.nu
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Howell Caton wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how soon we might expect a certification program for
> Debian Linux.
> Ce
David Teague wrote:
>
> To the list, on behalf of one of my students:
>
> Who can tell us something about certification for Linux maintenance?
>
> We are aware of Red Hat's effort in this, but are looking for
> something that is a bit more generic than that. I'd _love_ to have
> something that i
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 01:11:41PM -0400, David Teague wrote:
>
> To the list, on behalf of one of my students:
>
> Who can tell us something about certification for Linux maintenance?
>
> We are aware of Red Hat's effort in this, but are looking for
> something that is a bit more generic than
>
> There are many models that could be used to set up the certification;
> it could even be an application that could be downloaded. As for
> studying for it -- one approach would be to select questions from a
> large database of possible questions. The database of possible
> questions could be
On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There are many models that could be used to set up the certification;
> it could even be an application that could be downloaded. As for
> studying for it -- one approach would be to select questions from a
> large database of possible questions. Th
I've been daydreaming about linux or bsd certification lately, since
people in my office are in the process of getting solaris certified.
I wish that if I am going to jump through the hoops to get certified,
I could do it with an OS I'm excited about. Of course, real
experience is more important,
On 8 Jul 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
> Uhhmmm... I personally do not like the idea. When talking about
> certifications we are always talking about big bucks. I guess
> certifications would take away the spirit of free software on which
> Linux and Debian are based on...
I agree. Being a born rebe
Dave Cinege wrote:
>
> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 20:05:56 -0400 (EDT), Matthew Tebbens wrote:
>
> >I kinda like the idea myself.
> >I don't think we could create a LINUX-Certified or should,
> >but what about a Debian Certification ?
> >
I mentioned it to SSC this spring after a student asked me about
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 20:05:56 -0400 (EDT), Matthew Tebbens wrote:
>
> >I kinda like the idea myself.
> >I don't think we could create a LINUX-Certified or should,
> >but what about a Debian Certification ?
> >
> >Think about it,
> >If Debian were the first
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 20:05:56 -0400 (EDT), Matthew Tebbens wrote:
>I kinda like the idea myself.
>I don't think we could create a LINUX-Certified or should,
>but what about a Debian Certification ?
>
>Think about it,
>If Debian were the first to come out with Certifications, it might
>improve Debia
I kinda like the idea myself.
I don't think we could create a LINUX-Certified or should,
but what about a Debian Certification ?
Think about it,
If Debian were the first to come out with Certifications, it might
improve Debian's standing in the Unix/Linux community. Should definitly
think about t
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Greg Vence wrote:
> Most of the time, certification is a great way for the vendor to make an
> extra buck. I've found in the M$ world that scores on a multiple-guess
> test that has been heavly coached is a _poor_ indicator real-world
> results. It seems that the portfolio of
Uhhmmm... I personally do not like the idea. When talking about
certifications we are always talking about big bucks. I guess
certifications would take away the spirit of free software on which
Linux and Debian are based on...
Any way, my mind is open and my thoughts regarding this topic could
cha
Aldrin L. M. Leal wrote:
>
> I was looking around, haven't found, but i think it's a good
> idea to promote some effort to create a Linux sort of certified
> professional. Like, "Certified Linux Admin", "Programmer", "User",
> "Manager", and so forth... the first great advantage occurs when bi
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>authority for our network. Regarding the SSL itself and secure server I've
>succeeded, I've set it up and working. But I'm not able to set up a CA.
>I've read documentation for SSL and a lot of WWW pages regarding SSL, but
>can't catch the point.
>
>Does any of you have an
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