> > I just did a quick search on the debian web site with the keyword HOWTO,
> > this
> > is what I got:
> >
> > Search Results
> >
> > Release Quality Package (size)
> > stable100% doc-linux-es 1998.0
On Thu, Jun 17, 1999 at 01:07:51AM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote
> On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote:
> > I'm the guy that asked which package had the HOWTOs. I know it seemed like
> > a dumb question, but I did try searching on "HOWTO" in both dselect and on
> > the Deb
> people need some help once in a while, and find it discouraging to be called
> lazy or stupid when we do ask. We're not looking to have anything spoon-fed
> to us--we just need a little guidance when we hit a brick wall.
>
> - Kris
>
>
> -Original Message-
"E.L. Meijer (Eric)" wrote:
> >
> > Debian installation manual is not at all the worst one. It is quite good
> > actually. But it definetely isn't easy to find on the website instructions
> > how to get started...
>
> This is getting on my nerves...
>
> * go to www.debian.org
> * note the section
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:05:39 +, you wrote:
>On Tuesday, June 08, 1999 at 23:26:35 -0600, Craig McPherson wrote:
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: BE MORE SIMPLE
> > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.02b14)
> > X-UIDL: d2077d16c312
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:34:25AM +, Gertjan Klein wrote:
> >"The people who manage the creation of software-based products are
> >typically
> > either hostage to programmers because they are insufficiently
> >technical, or they are
> >all too sympathetic to programmers because they are progra
Kirk Hogenson wrote:
>
> Marc Mongeon wrote:
> >
> > But certainly this was intended to be an automated feature, right?
> > Is it a flag that you give to dpkg, or the compiled default in some
> > later version (I'm running 1.4.0.34, and have no Contents), or just
> > the result of a bunch of Debia
On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:54:01 -0500, "Keith G. Murphy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would add that GUI does not equate to ease-of-use. Look at the
>oft-derided dselect: it's actually quite a good wizard (takes you
>through everything you need to do step by step). The bad parts of it
>are probabl
Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> Personally, I think that explains a lot of "Y2K": managers have allowed
> themselves to abdicate responsibility for what goes on inside the glass
> room. Right now, there's even a bill before Congress to limit
> companies' liability for Y2K problems. As if they're acts o
Gertjan Klein wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:25:14 -0400, "Kristopher Johnson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >My reaction was to
> >the people who are glad that Linux isn't too easy, because they enjoy the
> >challenge. Adversity builds character, I guess.
>
> Well said. In addition, th
Marc Mongeon wrote:
>
> But certainly this was intended to be an automated feature, right?
> Is it a flag that you give to dpkg, or the compiled default in some
> later version (I'm running 1.4.0.34, and have no Contents), or just
> the result of a bunch of Debian users deciding it was a Good Idea
But certainly this was intended to be an automated feature, right?
Is it a flag that you give to dpkg, or the compiled default in some
later version (I'm running 1.4.0.34, and have no Contents), or just
the result of a bunch of Debian users deciding it was a Good Idea
to schedule a cron job to down
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:08:04PM -0500,
ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I kind of hate to jump into a string like this but at the risk of
> sounding real stupid how can one create this
> /var/lib/dpkg/Contents-i386.gz file. I've searched for it on my Slink
> system and it just isn't there. I t
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0400,
Kristopher Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm the guy that asked which package had the HOWTOs. I know it seemed like
> a dumb question, but I did try searching on "HOWTO" in both dselect and on
> the Debian web site, and came up with nothing. And I
On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Gertjan Klein wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:04:56 +0930 (CST), Michael Talbot-Wilson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A few phrases of your mail:
>
> "Contemptible complaints and demands", "self-important and self-serving
> claim", "laughable", "a shithead", "completely
On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:04:56 +0930 (CST), Michael Talbot-Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A few phrases of your mail:
"Contemptible complaints and demands", "self-important and self-serving
claim", "laughable", "a shithead", "completely bogus", "intolerant and
demanding", "a lame and inefficie
On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Gertjan Klein wrote:
> point-and-click interfaces suck, because they are too easy. Windows
> could learn a lot from Linux in terms of performance, power and
> stability, but Linux doesn't even come close to the ease of installation
> and use you'll find with Windows. This is n
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:25:14 -0400, "Kristopher Johnson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My reaction was to
>the people who are glad that Linux isn't too easy, because they enjoy the
>challenge. Adversity builds character, I guess.
Well said. In addition, the reverse also seems to apply;
point-and
Kristopher Johnson wrote:
>
> Yes, this was a great explanation. Thanks!
>
> And my apologies to Eric: my response was intended to be good-natured, but
> in re-reading it, I guess it actually looks pretty hostile. Unfortunately,
> I didn't really make my point clear. I didn't mean to try to d
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 2:35 PM
To: Kirk Hogenson
Cc: Kristopher Johnson; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BE MORE SIMPLE
Kirk Hogenson wrote:
[incredibly helpful explanation snipped]
>
> I hope this helps, and good luck getting your sound
I kind of hate to jump into a string like this but at the risk of
sounding real stupid how can one create this
/var/lib/dpkg/Contents-i386.gz file. I've searched for it on my Slink
system and it just isn't there. I took a look at the dpkg man page and
see no reference to the file. I see that you
Subject: Re: BE MORE SIMPLE
Date: Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 09:11:49AM -0700
In reply to:Clyde Wilson
Quoting Clyde Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:31:54AM +0200,
> > Urban Gabor
ian
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: BE MORE SIMPLE
> >
> > Debian installation manual is not at all the worst one. It is quite good
> > actually. But it definetely isn't easy to find on the website
instructions
> > how to get started...
>
&g
Kirk Hogenson wrote:
>
>
> Anyway, let me describe what Eric was talking about. The file
> /var/lib/dpkg/Contents-i386.gz contains information about which
> package contains what. If you want to find the HOWTO's, for
> example, try something like:
>
> zgrep HOWTO /var/lib/dpkg/Contents-i386
Another place to find that elusive package is by searching through the
available package database in /var/lib/dpkg/available with something like
less -i
I use that a lot. You may have to tweak your string a bit or show
patience when searching, because some words are used a lot.
Ciao!
--
"Harp
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:31:54AM +0200,
> Urban Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > no disrespect, but M$ makes you forget thinking. (Cf the subscription! :-)
> > )
> >
>
> It is not Wintendo that makes people forget how to think, it is someth
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
> >
> > Debian installation manual is not at all the worst one. It is quite good
> > actually. But it definetely isn't easy to find on the website instructions
> > how to get started...
>
> This is getting on my nerves...
>
> * go to www.debian.org
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
> People are often lazy. A lot of things might be improved about the
> debian website, but if people argue things like `it is hard to find the
> installation manual on the web site', they just didn't try. Most of
> the mails on this list tend to b
Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
> For example, someone asked if there was a package
> containing the Howtos. Instead of telling him the name of the package,
> he should have been told how to grep the Contents file, that way he
> can find things on his own instead of asking the list every time.
> Reme
>
> I'm the guy that asked which package had the HOWTOs. I know it seemed like
> a dumb question, but I did try searching on "HOWTO" in both dselect and on
> the Debian web site, and came up with nothing. And I started paging through
> the 2700+ packages shown in dselect, but gave up after an ho
s
-Original Message-
From: Eric Gillespie, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 3:01 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BE MORE SIMPLE
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:31:54AM +0200,
Urban Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no disrespe
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
> >
> > Debian installation manual is not at all the worst one. It is quite good
> > actually. But it definetely isn't easy to find on the website instructions
> > how to get started...
>
> This is getting on my nerves...
So just forget it.
Every
>
> Debian installation manual is not at all the worst one. It is quite good
> actually. But it definetely isn't easy to find on the website instructions
> how to get started...
This is getting on my nerves...
* go to www.debian.org
* note the section `Getting Started', which is the second below
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:31:54AM +0200,
Urban Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no disrespect, but M$ makes you forget thinking. (Cf the subscription! :-)
> )
>
> I would suggest an other install description with step-by-step texts of
> what to do. And redesinging Debian web site can help a lot
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Urban Gabor wrote:
> The moral from the original rather rash message can serve very good the
> whole Linux/Debian community. It is indeed very hard to convince people to
> use Linux when the starting informaiton is filled with jargon.
I agree quite completely.
> The users
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 09:31:54 +0200, Urban Gabor wrote:
> I would suggest an other install description with step-by-step texts of
> what to do. And redesinging Debian web site can help a lot.
There's a Dutch saying "de beste stuurlui staan aan wal" which amounts to
"the best drivers are standin
I do not want to continue the line, but I could not withold some comments:
The moral from the original rather rash message can serve very good the
whole Linux/Debian community. It is indeed very hard to convince people to
use Linux when the starting informaiton is filled with jargon. The users
com
ucked into /dev/null
- Original Message -
From: debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Shao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Craig McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ;
John Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: B
Judith Bush wrote:
>
> My experience yesterday helps me sympathize with the original
> poster. My personal installation last year went beautifully as i ran
> from a bootable cd. On the other hand, I run debian at work, where i'm
> developing a kiosk system. I've a handful of thin clients -- NONE W
On 09-Jun-99 Kenneth Scharf wrote:
>>I cannot install Debian from my Cheapbytes Slink CD >without the base
>>floppies,
>>but I believe I can do it from the Hamm CD, also from >Cheapbytes.
> With
>>the
>>Slink CD, the installation stops because of an error >with the ncurses
>>package.
> Hmmm I did
>I cannot install Debian from my Cheapbytes Slink CD >without the base
>floppies,
>but I believe I can do it from the Hamm CD, also from >Cheapbytes.
With
>the
>Slink CD, the installation stops because of an error >with the ncurses
>package.
Hmmm I did not have this problem installing on my other
On 09-Jun-99 Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote:
> Pollywog writes:
> > Is there a place where I can get a bootable CD to install from so that I
> don't
> > need the base floppies? CheapBytes disks seem to have problems in this
> regard
> > (some versions).
> >
> > --
> > Andrew
> >
>
> I
On 09-Jun-99 Kenneth Scharf wrote:
>
>>Hmmm, I got my discs from cheapbytes and they boot >fine. In fact all
> of
>>my cheapbytes discs boot okay. Actually that's a bit >misleading since
> I
>>only have three sets ;)
> Cheap bytes had got a bad rap when they blew the dependancies and
> simlinks o
>Hmmm, I got my discs from cheapbytes and they boot >fine. In fact all
of
>my cheapbytes discs boot okay. Actually that's a bit >misleading since
I
>only have three sets ;)
Cheap bytes had got a bad rap when they blew the dependancies and
simlinks on debian 2.0 and included a bad upgrad script. (
Pollywog writes:
> Is there a place where I can get a bootable CD to install from so that I
> don't
> need the base floppies? CheapBytes disks seem to have problems in this
> regard
> (some versions).
>
> --
> Andrew
>
I have already installed four home systems booting from cheapbyte
Well, I'm not a linux newbie, and I've been using debian for almost a
year.
First, praise: I installed slackware from scratch in '95. I installed
debian from scratch in '98. If M$ could make a ease-of-use jump that
large in 3 years i wouldn't care if they took over the world. They
can't. We can
debian wrote:
>
> I agree George.. I went from Slackware (used it for 4 years) to using Debian
> just 7 days ago.. Debian and apt-get rocks.
>
Amen! I installed SuSE and RedHat on my other computer, and then
realized that I couldn't upgrade quite as easily. Needless to say, I
scrubbed its drives
Pollywog wrote:
>
> On 09-Jun-99 Craig McPherson wrote:
> > 5. Don't get frustrated! For me, figuring out which files I had to
> > download to get a base system up & running was much harder than
> > the installation itself! :) (well, except for rescuing my partition table
> > from the brink of
I agree George.. I went from Slackware (used it for 4 years) to using Debian
just 7 days ago.. Debian and apt-get rocks.
>
>Sorry to advertize another distro on the Debian list : ) but this might
>not be a bad option if one is just trying out linux and doesn't want to
>repartition, and personally.
John,
I am also a newbie, and let me tell you that the frustration will not stop
here. The configuration will take a bit of coming to grips with as well.
Having said that, I am not trying to be negativewhat I would like to
also say is that there is a tremendous learning curve ahead of you, a
If you really want linux-in-a-file... I believe Slackware has a ZipSlack
distribution... Slackware in one big ( 30something megs? ) Zip file you
stick on your M$ partition unzip, and loadlin into...
for this and lots of other Linux goodies try:
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux
Sorry to advertize
On Tuesday, June 08, 1999 at 23:26:35 -0600, Craig McPherson wrote:
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: BE MORE SIMPLE
> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.02b14)
> X-UIDL: d2077d16c3127d4bf73a47a47027a8d9
> As one Debian newbie to another,
As a non-
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 11:26:35PM -0600, Craig McPherson wrote:
> On 8 Jun 99, at 20:57, John Hall wrote:
>
> > How in the world do I download Debian? I've been at your site for 30
> > MINUTES and have gone to every distribution link on it, but there's no
> > singular link that actually downloa
On 09-Jun-99 Craig McPherson wrote:
> 5. Don't get frustrated! For me, figuring out which files I had to
> download to get a base system up & running was much harder than
> the installation itself! :) (well, except for rescuing my partition table
> from the brink of oblivion, that was kinda
Robert Rati wrote:
> You are obviously frustrated, but you can get
> more flies with honey than vinegar.
But he wants more "files", not "flies".
Sorry. ;-)
John Hall wrote:
>
> Webmaster at Debian,
>
> How in the world do I download Debian? I've been at your site for 30
PS: When you go to the Installion Instructions page, then you'll need to
select the installation instructions for the architecture of your
machine (probably Intel x86); that link
John Hall wrote:
>
> Webmaster at Debian,
>
> How in the world do I download Debian? I've been at your site for 30
> MINUTES and have gone to every distribution link on it, but there's no
> singular link that actually downloads ALL 2250 files of Debian, and WHO
> in the world is going to down l
On 8 Jun 99, at 20:57, John Hall wrote:
> How in the world do I download Debian? I've been at your site for 30
> MINUTES and have gone to every distribution link on it, but there's no
> singular link that actually downloads ALL 2250 files of Debian, and WHO
> in the world is going to down load T
First of all, calm down. Debian is produced by volunteers, on their own
time. It's not a company and no one is being paid. So if you aren't
willing to work on the web site, at least be polite!
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, John Hall wrote:
> Webmaster at Debian,
>
> How in the world do I download Debia
Try reading the install documentation. It tells you all you need to know
about installing the base system. From there, you download packages.gz
files that have lists of packages and you select which ones you want.
This is all taken care of in the installation process so all you need to
do is inst
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