Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > I wrote directly to the author and told him: > To which I got the following reply: > > | Hi, Olaf > | > | Thanks for your note. See my column next week when I share > | my experiences with the latest "official" version of potato. > | > | See ya, > | Joe Barr My Debian

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ne is *free software*. my 2cents. --- who watches the watchmen? - Original Message - From: "Olaf Meeuwissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stuart Krivis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9

Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did write to Linuxworld and said that I thought the article by > Barr was unfair. I pointed out what I felt were the flaws, and > suggested how it could have been done better. The editor thanked me > and said that my comments were being forwarded to th

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Go to http://cdimage.debian.org to find the easy way! Matthew Sherborne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 10 October 2000 2:36 p.m. > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Article: Debian's Daunting

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I had tried ftp'ing from /debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/. It contains > far too many files to fit on a CD. And it doesn't contain the boot images and > other non-.deb stuff. > > So how did I finally get my bootable CD? I (ahem) And what's wrong with this? htt

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I had tried ftp'ing from /debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/. It contains far too many files to fit on a CD. And it doesn't contain the boot images and other non-.deb stuff. So how did I finally get my bootable CD? I (ahem) (1) Downloaded the first 2MB's of the .iso image (2) Loop mount'ed th

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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Daunting installation? I totally disagree. Debian is the easiest console mode > installation I have ever seen (Win 3.1, Redhat 5.something, etc.). > > The difficult part for me was creating the bootable CD. Once I figured out the > queer directory s

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> > RedHat, Mandrake, and SuSE are all quite easy to install and start > using. I find they only get difficult later on when you need to fix > something that broke, or want to upgrade. They can also become a real > mess if you install un-official packages. > yes that's basically the problem with e

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On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 04:47:46PM -0400, mike wrote: > There is another way to get Debian potato up and running > quickly with a nice GUI install. > Just d/l the free 'hail' distro from stormix.com or get their > cd and you'll be apt-get'ting in about a half-hour. You can then I was

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Daunting installation? I totally disagree. Debian is the easiest console mode installation I have ever seen (Win 3.1, Redhat 5.something, etc.). The difficult part for me was creating the bootable CD. Once I figured out the queer directory structure, it was as simple as flopping the CD on the driv

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Ah, sorry. apt-find is a sym link to capt, which is a lot better than dselect. Sorry if that was misleading. -- Chaotic42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.pobox.com/~chaotic42/ http://www.bigplasticfork.org/ It's too nice a day to be stupid inside - Ren Hoek (Ren & Stimpy) pgpSyvqGcRB2L.pgp Desc

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Subject: Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation Date: Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:42:13PM +0100 In reply to:Glyn Millington Quoting Glyn Millington([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm just over a month into Debian and have hassled the list with > lots of my con

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Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > > > So I had no problems. But if someone never saw his Linux-guru-friend > writing the line "S3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x 3 ttyS3" into > inittab to get the fax running, how can he ever configure it? > The Debian mgetty package does that for you, in the form of a c

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Quoth James Antill, > > Try apt-find. > > # dpkg -S apt-find > dpkg: *apt-find* not found. > # apt-get install apt-find > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package apt-find I think what he means is apt-cache. Try man apt-cache. cheers, -- Dam

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote: >On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:42:13PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: > % help > help: Command not found. > What shell are you using? ihatemilk:/home/ihatemilk% help GNU bash, version 2.04.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu) These shell commands are

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On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:42:13PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: > > I'm just over a month into Debian and have hassled the list with > lots of my configuration problems. That being said, the > conversion from Mandrake to Debian was relatively painless and I > actually preferred the very interacti

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Christen Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:10:59PM -0400, > James Antill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Christen Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [ snip ... ] > > 1. The partioning stuff didn't tell me how to make extended partitions > > (I realise _now_ that

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There is another way to get Debian potato up and running quickly with a nice GUI install. Just d/l the free 'hail' distro from stormix.com or get their cd and you'll be apt-get'ting in about a half-hour. You can then remove the stormix stuff (admin pkgs) but keep the stormpkg manage

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On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:10:59PM -0400, James Antill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christen Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I digress. My point is, Debian isn't difficult, even relative > > to the other 'main' Linux based distros out there, to install. > > That's cute, it's loyal, but

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I'm just over a month into Debian and have hassled the list with lots of my configuration problems. That being said, the conversion from Mandrake to Debian was relatively painless and I actually preferred the very interactive Debian approach; and am slowly discovering that almost all the informati

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Christen Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I could see a person new to computers having some problems > with installing Debian. It isn't the best install in the > world. However, anyone who has a good understanding of > computers (by this I don't mean Start->Programs->MS Word) > should be able t

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Am I a newbie? I dont know. Since 1992 I have been using NEXTSTEP, then since 1998 Linux. The first install made a friend of mine. It was OpenLinux. When I wanted to upgrade I tried to install a new OpenLinux by myself. All went smooth -- but I never managed to install ISDN. So I wiped it out and

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Hi, On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, me wrote: > 3) If the reviewer had been a newbie, the complaints might have > been forgivable. Deb is not (yet) for newbies. It's getting there, > though. If the newbie is a fiddler, he or she can manage with a little help from (Debian) friends. When I started inst

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I could see a person new to computers having some problems with installing Debian. It isn't the best install in the world. However, anyone who has a good understanding of computers (by this I don't mean Start->Programs->MS Word) should be able to install Debian with little trouble. I've installed

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As a Debian newbie I have to say that the worst thing about Debian was dselect. It seemed to be a confusing morass. Once I got a workable system it was great, and I was impressed by how easy it was to go from slink to potato, but getting started was a bear. Allan _

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote: >Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at > ? Regrettably. >Anyone else have any thoughts on this article? More than a couple: 1) 2.2's a huuuge improv

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> >>> Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 11:28AM >>> >Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at > ? > > And if one is not able to wrap long lines, he probably should not write > to this list. ;) >From you

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"Brooks R. Robinson" wrote: > > > If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X > > > he probably shouldn't write articles for linuxworld.com > > > >I thought the same thing. > > Ditto here, come on... get your hands dirty. > > > > I'd like to offer a more settling comment. Gettin

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whoever thinks dlinux is a tough install should be pointed to http://www.rocklinux.org. ...they'll really have _fun_. muhahaha. (i'm sticking w/ dlinux, thank you.) later. bentley taylor. // Alec Smith wrote: > I must say that I find the constant reviews and comments that say "Debian > is

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> > If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X > > he probably shouldn't write articles for linuxworld.com > >I thought the same thing. Ditto here, come on... get your hands dirty. > >I'm all for teaching people about computers (being a former college > professor, now working in a

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>P.S. discovering apt-get was like waking up on Christmass morning and finding a >pony under the tree. Without having to clean up after it -- *-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-* Michael Leone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB

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I'm from the Apex Tech school of Debian install (first you learn how to use a tool then put the tool into your box). I had a really hard time installing from the CD's so I just installed the base system and then used apt-get to install any package that I found I needed. I would recomend this me

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Philipp Letschert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X > he probably shouldn't write articles for linuxworld.com I thought the same thing. I'm all for teaching people about computers (being a former college professor, now working in a public schoo

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Actually, Storm Linux, based on Debian (In fact, can use debian's site for apt-getting), has a GREAT installer for newbies actually. Mandrake was also easy to install. Debian should take a look at Storm's installer and newbies will finally have nothign to bitch about. On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 06:48:1

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>>> "Philipp Letschert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 01:15PM >>> >>> Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 11:28AM >>> Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at ? And if one is not able to wrap long lines,

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>>> Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 11:28AM >>> Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at ? Debian/GNU was my first linux-installation ever. (hamm, some year ago) And I managed it, without any knowledg

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On Wed, 04 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote: > Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at > ? > >I was struck by the article in a number of ways. I think it's sad that > an experienced user like him couldn't install

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I must say that I find the constant reviews and comments that say "Debian is hard to install" somewhat entertaining. When I first installed Debian (Hamm), I found the installation fairly simple. Overall, I prefer Debian's installation procedures when compared to those of another distribution from N