Re: Debian versions

Thank you, Michael! On 7/20/25 9:32 PM, Michael Paoli wrote: You're configured to follow sid/unstable. Since things regularly migrate from sid/unstable to testing, in most regards the installed OS can't tell which you're on, though one can look at one's APT configuration to see what one is follo

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Sat 19 Jul 2025 at 22:37:38 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > > > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; > > so, I went monkey and did the conversion myself, but I got two errors which > > I can't make sense of

Re: Debian versions

You're configured to follow sid/unstable. Since things regularly migrate from sid/unstable to testing, in most regards the installed OS can't tell which you're on, though one can look at one's APT configuration to see what one is following. But they may not necessarily be distinguished by what's cu

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 11:09 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:39:32PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Maybe the List-Unsubscribe header would help, > > . The list software can > > add it without worrying about breaking DKIM signat

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On 20/07/2025 09:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 09:02:37 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: I have no idea to which degree the following is portable: strip_zeroes() { zeroes="${1%%[!0]*}"; printf '%s\n' "${1#"$zeroes"}"; } That's POSIX compliant. It's very similar to the first examp

Re: Open Microsoft Surface

On 7/20/25 07:45, Andrew W Rambus wrote: Hello , I have a Microsoft Surface 4 ; I bought at a yard sale.  ,and I’m trying to turn it on , and I can’t get past the Debian login GNU/Linux 12 login & password !! Can someone please help me , open this laptop You can make guesses, like "admin / a

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

Hi, On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:39:32PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Maybe the List-Unsubscribe header would help, > . The list software can > add it without worrying about breaking DKIM signatures. > > A good user agent would display a UI widget to

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 12:04 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:48:01PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Perhaps, the List Administrators could find worthwhile, to add a footer to > > the mailing list messages, something like > > > > "To unsubscribe, change your subscription mode, or

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 4:13 PM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 21/7/25 03:06, Lee wrote: > > > > > It's in the mail headers - which the 'please unsubscribe me' people > > don't know exists, > > "There are more things, in heaven and earth, than man has ever dreamed > of"... > > :) > > Not only the " 'pl

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

On 21/7/25 03:06, Lee wrote: It's in the mail headers - which the 'please unsubscribe me' people don't know exists, "There are more things, in heaven and earth, than man has ever dreamed of"... :) Not only the " 'please unsubscribe me' people " did not know that exists... "The more we

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

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Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

Am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2025, 20:46:18 CEST schrieb Van Snyder: > On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 14:24 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > > > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > > > > How about > > >

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 14:24 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > > How about > >    mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n > > where <100-page.pd

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

* On 2025 20 Jul 12:08 -0500, Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > > Sorry, I meant digital signatures. Mailing list messing with the body > > means that the signature is no longer valid. > > Strange, I have in my archives mails from that mailing-list that are > digitally signed

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > Sorry, I meant digital signatures. Mailing list messing with the body > means that the signature is no longer valid. Strange, I have in my archives mails from that mailing-list that are digitally signed, where a footer with unsubscribe instructions was added, and mu

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

> I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > I wish to edit those 2 files. I've used Inkskape in the past to edit PDFs, and more recently LibreOffice. As a general rule, the better option is to do something else, because editing PDFs is fundamentally "wrong" so the tools ha

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

On Jul 20, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > > And it'd break signatures for those of us who use them. I *hated* yahoo > > groups (and, now, groups.io) for doing that. > > Can you explain what it means? I am subscribed to > a

Re: Bookworm libc6 (and libc6:i386) update deleted ld-linux and cannot proceed.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 10:52:36 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 7:23 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 20/07/2025 13:22, Tom Dial wrote: > > > unable to install new version of '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2': No > > > such file or directory > > > > try: > "sudo apt up

Re: Bookworm libc6 (and libc6:i386) update deleted ld-linux and cannot proceed.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 7:23 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/07/2025 13:22, Tom Dial wrote: > > unable to install new version of '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2': No > > such file or directory > try: "sudo apt update" "sudo apt purge ld-linux" "sudo apt install ld-linux" > Do you have lib -> usr/

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. For a simple graphical solution, try xpdf. The print option allows you to print specified pages to file. We cannot help with the editing since you ha

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/20/25 7:24 AM, Roger Price wrote: > > mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n > > > > where <100-page.pdf> is the original file > >Page-n.pdf is the one page file extracted > > > Is some demo or tutorial that would clarify what it

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

Dan Purgert (HE12025-07-20): > And it'd break signatures for those of us who use them. I *hated* yahoo > groups (and, now, groups.io) for doing that. Can you explain what it means? I am subscribed to and I do not observe anything that looks like breaki

Re: Open Microsoft Surface

On 20.07.2025 15:10 Uhr Andrew W Rambus wrote: > Hello , I have a Microsoft Surface 4 ; I bought at a yard sale. ,and > I’m trying to turn it on , and I can’t get past the Debian login > GNU/Linux 12 login & password !! > Can someone please help me , open this laptop Did you install it? Which de

Re: Open Microsoft Surface

On Jul 20, 2025, Andrew W Rambus wrote: > Hello , I have a Microsoft Surface 4 ; I bought at a yard sale. ,and I’m > trying to turn it on , and I can’t get past the Debian login GNU/Linux 12 > login & password !! > Can someone please help me , open this laptop Reinstall your preferred OS over the

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

On Jul 20, 2025, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:48:01PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Perhaps, the List Administrators could find worthwhile, to add a footer to > > the mailing list messages, something like > > > > "To unsubscribe, change your subscription mode, or view the

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

On 7/20/25 7:24 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: I have a 100+ page PDF document. I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. How about mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n where <100-page.pdf> is the original file Page-

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

Hi, On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 05:48:01PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Perhaps, the List Administrators could find worthwhile, to add a footer to > the mailing list messages, something like > > "To unsubscribe, change your subscription mode, or view the list archive, > see https://lists.debian.org/deb

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

On 2025-07-20, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm running Debian 12.8. > > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > I wish to edit those 2 files. > How? > [Simple question but I suspect answer may not be so simple. > What I've read confuses me

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. How about mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n where <100-page.pdf> is the original file Page-n.pdf is the one page file extracted

Re: Bookworm libc6 (and libc6:i386) update deleted ld-linux and cannot proceed.

On 20/07/2025 13:22, Tom Dial wrote:  unable to install new version of '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2': No such file or directory Do you have lib -> usr/lib and lib64 -> usr/lib64 symlinks in / ? Perhaps you may run statically linked tools busybox sh If it is not installed, you may extract t

Re: Bookworm libc6 (and libc6:i386) update deleted ld-linux and cannot proceed.

Thomas Southerland (HE12025-07-20): > pool then chroot into the broken file system. > > At that point, apt update and apt upgrade should work. No, they should not. Booting on another system and chrooting is for when the system does not want to boot or does not want to let you in, but it still req

Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

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Re: please delete me from your mailing lists

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Re: Bookworm libc6 (and libc6:i386) update deleted ld-linux and cannot proceed.

On 7/20/25 2:22 AM, Tom Dial wrote: In updating a Bookworm installation from 12.1 to 12.11 I have hit a brick wall during upgrade of libc6 and libc6:i386. The update appeared normal until the upgrade of libc6:i386 (apology offered for the wrap): -- Preparing to unpack .../20-libc6_2.36-9+

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 2:34 AM Michael Paoli wrote: > > [...] > And sed and awk are POSIX, so using those is POSIX, so long as we > restrict ourselves to specified POSIX functionality. As crazy as this is going to sound... you can't count on all POSIX tools to be present anymore. VMs or containe

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

The original https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/07/msg00407.html specified HH:MM:SS format for input, nothing more, nothing less. And sure, we should validate input and, e.g. throw error if input isn't valid. But if we want to accept additional, well, that should also be in the earlier spe

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 09:02:37 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I have no idea to which degree the following is portable: > > strip_zeroes() { zeroes="${1%%[!0]*}"; printf '%s\n' "${1#"$zeroes"}"; } That's POSIX compliant. It's very similar to the first examples on

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On 19/07/2025 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 10:14:49 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: A mathematical trick may be used instead even if external processes like sed are considered as undesired overhead for i in 0 09 008 59 080; do i1=1$i; i2=2$i; echo "$i = $((2*i1 - i2))"; done 0

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; so, I went monkey and did the conversion myself, but I got two errors which I can't make sense of whatsoever with only two values: _HHMMSS="19:09" _HHMMSS="19:08" IFS=$(

Re: nftables debian 13 bug

please check if your network interface was not renamed and still the same:         iifname "ens18" accept ...         oifname "ens18" masquerade

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 10:14:49 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > A mathematical trick may be used instead even if external processes like sed > are considered as undesired overhead > > for i in 0 09 008 59 080; do i1=1$i; i2=2$i; echo "$i = $((2*i1 - i2))"; > done > > 0 = 0 > 09 = 9 > 008 = 8 > 59 =

Re: Open Source PHP Trouble Ticket System

On 2025-07-18, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> This one ([1]) is in PHP. >> >> [1] https://glpi-project.org/ >> >> -- >> John Doe >> >> > I looked at this one and it looked promising. I downloaded it and tried to > install it but it requires docker. I am not really interested in running > docker

Re: Open Source PHP Trouble Ticket System

On 7/18/25 21:01, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 8:19 AM john doe wrote: On 7/18/25 09:21, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello, I have been Googling around trying to find a Trouble Ticket System written in PHP, JavaScript and MariaDB. Does anyone know of any good ones?

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

echo \ $(( $( d12='\([0-9]\{1,2\}\)' echo 09:10:11 | sed -e ' s/^/ / s/:/ /g s/ 0*\([0-9]\)/ \1/g '" s/^ $d12 $d12 $d12"'$/3600 * \1 + 60 * \2 + \3/ ' ) )) On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 7:09 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 18:59:06 -0700, Michael Paoli

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On 18/07/2025 05:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 23:39:02 +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; jq '.duration_string,.duration' m.info.json "2:10:14" 7814 Taking into account earlier posts, I think that o

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 18:59:06 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > echo $(( $(echo 07:08:09 | sed -e 's/^0*\([0-9]\)/3600 * \1 + > /;s/:0*\([0-9]:\)/60 * \1/;s/:0*\([0-9]\)$/ + \1/;') )) This one is missing some * operators. You're only capturing a single digit in each segment, but there could be two

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

echo $(( $(echo 07:08:09 | sed -e 's/^0*\([0-9]\)/3600 * \1 + /;s/:0*\([0-9]:\)/60 * \1/;s/:0*\([0-9]\)$/ + \1/;') )) On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 1:31 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 13:16:17 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > > E.g.: > > printf 01:02:03 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 13:16:17 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > E.g.: > printf 01:02:03 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + > $((m * 60)) + $s ))) You still need to strip leading zeroes. hobbit:~$ echo 01:08:09 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + > $((m * 60))

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

E.g.: printf 01:02:03 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + $((m * 60)) + $s ))) On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 2:39 PM wrote: > > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; > so, I went monkey and did the conversion myself, but I got two errors which I

Re: Open Source PHP Trouble Ticket System

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 8:19 AM john doe wrote: > On 7/18/25 09:21, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have been Googling around trying to find a Trouble Ticket System > written > > in PHP, JavaScript and MariaDB. Does anyone know of any good ones? > > > > Good is subjective! ;^) >

Re: more trouble with HP Laser Jet Pro 4301 8023 CB

On 2025-07-10, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > I have no idea what to do.  I spent two hours on HP looking for any > explanation and could not get any help from them at all.  I cannot > afford another printer and I have three un-used color cartridges.  It > does say it is low on ink but according t

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

On 2025-07-11, Nicolas George wrote: > hw (HE12025-07-11): >> (S)FTP is still in use like for cameras, scanners (printers) and phones. > > Do you have a few examples of brand and models of cameras and phones > that use FTP? Some high-end cameras use it. Phones, not so much.

Re: Open Source PHP Trouble Ticket System

Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > Hello, > > I have been Googling around trying to find a Trouble Ticket System written > in PHP, JavaScript and MariaDB. Does anyone know of any good ones? I know the best one, but it's not written in PHP. apt install request-tracker5 -dsr-

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:34:36 +0200, Michael wrote: > On Friday, July 18, 2025 12:52:03 AM CEST, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > As far as the code goes, I'd rather start from scratch. > > just out of curiosity: > > i don't like fix global return values (like $r in your code). i'd rather > give the f

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thursday, July 17, 2025 06:52:03 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > If you don't want to see an explanation of the function, you can stop > reading here. The rest is just tutorial. I'm not the OP, but tutorial(s) good -- thanks! I assume it is (or will be) on your (Greg's wiki) -- if so, I'll probably

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Friday, July 18, 2025 12:52:03 AM CEST, Greg Wooledge wrote: As far as the code goes, I'd rather start from scratch. just out of curiosity: i don't like fix global return values (like $r in your code). i'd rather give the function a variable name to put the result in. do you have any obj

Re: Open Source PHP Trouble Ticket System

On 7/18/25 09:21, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello, I have been Googling around trying to find a Trouble Ticket System written in PHP, JavaScript and MariaDB. Does anyone know of any good ones? Good is subjective! ;^) This one ([1]) is in PHP. [1] https://glpi-project.org/ -- John Doe

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 07:56:39PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jul 18, 2025, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > > OK, it makes some more sense now. The range of digits in the octal > > system is from 0 to 7, so it would complain with "08" and "09" (but > > not with "10" which would then be "8" in oct

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu 17 Jul 2025 at 23:39:02 (+0200), lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; ↑ On Fri 18 Jul 2025 at 01:21:08 (+0200), lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > OK, the Math is right, but the assumptions made by date aren't sm

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On Thu 17 Jul 2025 at 15:26:15 (-0400), Šarūnas Burdulis wrote: > On 2025-07-17 2:46 PM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > > My internet service is by way of a dish out in the yard, and I have > > no idea where the base station is for the uplink to that particular > > satellites. How best to deal w

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Jul 18, 2025, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > OK, it makes some more sense now. The range of digits in the octal > system is from 0 to 7, so it would complain with "08" and "09" (but > not with "10" which would then be "8" in octal), but why would command > line utilities assume you are encoding n

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 00:31:17 +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 01:21:08AM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > > OK, the Math is right, but the assumptions made by date aren't smart. I > > "overtested" your one liner with the kinds of input you would grab using jq > >

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 01:21:08AM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > OK, the Math is right, but the assumptions made by date aren't smart. I > "overtested" your one liner with the kinds of input you would grab using jq > from youtube .info.json files > and to my amazement, when you only have

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

OK, the Math is right, but the assumptions made by date aren't smart. I "overtested" your one liner with the kinds of input you would grab using jq from youtube .info.json files and to my amazement, when you only have two semicolon separated values, the bash date utility assumes the first chunk

Re: problem installing trixie

On 7/16/25 16:35, Flo wrote: Hi, I have tried to install trixie, however, I ran into two problems at the very beginning: .) When I want to boot the computer, the system is not found automatically. I have to go into BIOS for selecting the disk to have it booted. At the installation process I

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 23:39:02 +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; OK. > _HHMMSS="19:09" > _HHMMSS="19:08" > IFS=$(echo -en "\n\b"); _SEKNDS_AR=($(echo "${_HHMMSS}" | tr ':' '\n')); > _SEKNDS_ARL=${#_SEKNDS_AR[@]} You

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:27:04AM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > _HHMMSS="19:09" means 19*60 + 9 = 1149 seconds > _HHMMSS="19:08" means 19*60 + 8 = 1148 seconds So: 19:09 is 19 minutes and 9 seconds ? It is not HHMMSS for that you should have _HHMMSS="00:19:09" I found a bug in my solutio

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

On 7/17/25 20:03, Titus Newswanger wrote: I just now inserted a Debian 12 installer usb and rebooted, making sure to catch the bios boot device selection screen. It presented me with 9 boot options: # 6 was "General UDisk 5.00" # 9 was "UEFI: General UDisk 5.00" My other 7 boot options are

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

_HHMMSS="19:09" means 19*60 + 9 = 1149 seconds _HHMMSS="19:08" means 19*60 + 8 = 1148 seconds so, it seems date is also somehow parsing that value as octal even though it is being formatted in a date friendly way. is there a way to exactly specify the encoding of the input for date?

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

OK, it makes some more sense now. The range of digits in the octal system is from 0 to 7, so it would complain with "08" and "09" (but not with "10" which would then be "8" in octal), but why would command line utilities assume you are encoding numeric values as octal? Now I notice many people h

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:39:02PM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; > so, I went monkey and did the conversion myself, but I got two errors which I > can't make sense of whatsoever with only two values: _HHMMSS="19:09

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Jul 17, 2025, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; > so, I went monkey and did the conversion myself, but I got two errors which I > can't make sense of whatsoever with only two values: > > _HHMMSS="19:09" > _HHMMSS="19:08" >

Re: Debian default mailer choice

> Aye, it’s way too big a topic for the mailing list. If you’re > interested in the whole debate (as far back as 2003) you can find > highlights here: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/DefaultMTA Thanks, that very much answers my question. I guess if `ssmtp` had been extended to allow local deli

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

PS: but booting is only possible over the BIOS menu. What do you mean by "over the BIOS menu"? When I start the computer, I press F10, the boot order. There I can select what I want to boot. If I select the drive there, it's booting. It has the highest priority anyway but it needs this

Re: Debian default mailer choice

> On 17 Jul 2025, at 20:09, Marco Moock wrote: > > On 17.07.2025 19:00 Uhr Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I don't have anything against Exim4 (I just happened to choose Postfix >> many years ago and never had a reason to reconsider that choice). >> I know basically nothing about Exim4 other than th

Re: Debian default mailer choice

On 17.07.2025 19:00 Uhr Stefan Monnier wrote: > I don't have anything against Exim4 (I just happened to choose Postfix > many years ago and never had a reason to reconsider that choice). > I know basically nothing about Exim4 other than the fact that > installing Postfix instead saved a few kB (no

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:18:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 17 Jul 2025 at 12:42:29 (+0200), Flo wrote: > > but booting is only possible over the BIOS menu. > > Like John Doe, no idea what this means. I took it to mean that OP sees a firmware message like "F11 to see boot options"

Re: Debian default mailer choice

Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:54:58PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Why does Debian default to installing Exim4? Just historical reasons I think: No great mystery, just that a choice had to be made and that was the choice that was made. Personally I haven't been too thrilled with Exim's securi

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On 2025-07-17 2:46 PM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: My internet service is by way of a dish out in the yard, and I have no idea where the base station is for the uplink to that particular satellites. How best to deal with that, I wonder? Not sure about the base station, but traceroute to a kn

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On Wednesday 16 July 2025 05:45:28 pm Andy Smith wrote: > The "easy route" through that set of dialogs has you say where you are > located and then it offers a few different Debian mirrors that make > sense for that location, however it does also let you type in your own. My internet service is b

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

Hi, Titus Newswanger wrote: > I just now inserted a Debian 12 installer usb and rebooted, making sure to > catch the bios boot device selection screen. It presented me with 9 boot > options: > > # 6 was "General UDisk 5.00" > > # 9 was "UEFI: General UDisk 5.00" > > My other 7 boot options are

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

On 7/17/25 05:42, Flo wrote: I tried to reinstall: This time I said guided partitioning the whole disk but it only creates a 1M partiion for biosgrub and a big one (3TB) for everything else (+ swap). That is how it works for me when I boot the installer usb in legacy bios mode regardless whe

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

On Thu 17 Jul 2025 at 12:42:29 (+0200), Flo wrote: > I tried to reinstall: This time I said guided partitioning the whole > disk but it only creates a 1M partiion for biosgrub and a big one > (3TB) for everything else (+ swap). I have EFI enabled in BIOS and > it's not the first time I install Debi

Re: Old distribution password

Ivan wrote: > Thank you for quick replay, Dan. > > One detail what is grub prompt? You seem to have missed copying the list on this. Common mistake. Grub is one of the possible boot methods that operates between the computer starting itself and the Linux kernel loading. If Raspbian doesn't us

Re: Old distribution password

Ivan wrote: > Hallo, > > I wonder if you could help me out. > > Some time ago I got my Raspberry pi and installed Debian distribution - I > have a backup copies with name 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img ... so you > see it is very old one. > > I was not using my Raspberrypi for some time and

Re: Old distribution password

On 7/17/25 11:36 AM, Ivan wrote: Hallo, I wonder if you could help me out. Some time ago I got my Raspberry pi  and installed Debian distribution - I have a backup copies with name  2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img   ... so you see it is very old one. I was not using my Raspberrypi for some t

Re: Old distribution password

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 17:36:16 +0200 Ivan wrote: > Hallo, > > I wonder if you could help me out. > > Some time ago I got my Raspberry pi and installed Debian > distribution - I have a backup copies with name > 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img ... so you see it is very old one. > > I was not usi

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

On 7/17/25 12:42, Flo wrote: On 7/17/25 03:22, Charles Curley wrote: For me it looks like that the installer thinks that I am on a non EFI system? The installer could be rongly detecting that but I'd say it's unlikely. debian-boot mailing list is specifically for d-i. PS: but booting

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

On 2025-07-16, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 04:31:08PM -, Greg wrote: >> On 2025-07-12, Andy Smith wrote: >> > But for brand new devices I don't care what was on it before. >> > >> > You can construct a hypothetical situation where: >> > >> > 1. I buy a new storage devi

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

On 7/17/25 13:29, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:42:29PM +0200, Flo wrote: For me it looks like that the installer thinks that I am on a non EFI system? Any ideas? Yes, it isn't actually booting in EFI mode. I don't think this will be an issue with Debian because by the tim

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:42:29PM +0200, Flo wrote: > For me it looks like that the installer thinks that I am on a non EFI > system? > > Any ideas? Yes, it isn't actually booting in EFI mode. I don't think this will be an issue with Debian because by the time the Debian installer runs the

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

On 7/17/25 03:22, Charles Curley wrote: Thank you for your answer. I tried to reinstall: This time I said guided partitioning the whole disk but it only creates a 1M partiion for biosgrub and a big one (3TB) for everything else (+ swap). I have EFI enabled in BIOS and it's not the first time

Re: problem installing t, ext4rixie

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 01:35:33 +0200 Flo wrote: > I have tried to install trixie, however, I ran into two problems at > the very beginning: > > .) When I want to boot the computer, the system is not found > automatically. I have to go into BIOS for selecting the disk to have > it booted. That is

Re: Why are bug comment numbers multiples of 5?

On 16/07/2025 16:16, Thomas Schmitt wrote: My best guess is https://sources.debian.org/src/debbugs/2.6.4/cgi/bugreport.cgi/?hl=331#L331 push @log, handle_record($record,$ref,$msg_num, ... But there $msg_num looks like being incremented in single steps, Some entries are omitted (see $skip_

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On 7/16/25 15:03, Titus Newswanger wrote: for Debian 12 I do a minimal install from the unmodified net install iso without network cable plugged in. I forgot to mention, it will want to connect to the network but the cable is unplugged (intentionally). I allow it to try connecting. After a m

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

For number of years, my local mirror has been running approx, without problems. All of my installs are netinst, using a USB stick. RLH

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 07:51:54PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > what would be the easiest way to do an install from my local mirror > would getting a copy of netinst.iso and modify it be practical > As someone else has pointed out, if you just need to install once on one system and have

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

Hi, On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 07:51:54PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > what would be the easiest way to do an install from my local mirror > would getting a copy of netinst.iso and modify it be practical I typically use the netinstall and unless you set it to be fully automated it does as

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On Wed, 16 Jul 2025, Titus Newswanger wrote: > > On 7/16/25 14:51, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> what would be the easiest way to do an install from my local mirror >> would getting a copy of netinst.iso and modify it be practical > for Debian 12 I do a minimal install from the unmodified net

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 19:51:54 + fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > what would be the easiest way to do an install from my local mirror > would getting a copy of netinst.iso and modify it be practical I'm not sure you mean by "local mirror". If you mean the one closest to you, absent any pressing

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