Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread John R Lenton
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:11:14PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: > In theory, this is fine. But on my system (512 MB RAM) it's not always like > that. After a few hours of work with a lot of opening apps and documents and > images, it dips into swap, and it does that even when I close most apps. So

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread debuser
It sounds as though you do indeed have a memory leak somewhere rather than just a misunderstanding of the memory statistic numbers. However, I'm quite certain that the problem has nothing to do with the kernel, but rather a leak in one of the apps you are running. If you say that even after shuttin

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:46:20PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: > > > The thing is, just because some swap space is used, that doesn't mean > > that the pages aren't also in physical RAM. Linux is actually very good > > about keeping things efficient, and you certainly don't need to reboot > > to c

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:35:46AM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: ... | The thing is, just because some swap space is used, that doesn't mean | that the pages aren't also in physical RAM. Linux is actually very good | about keeping things efficient, and you certainly don't need to reboot | to con

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Gordon Hart
> > out of memory you should take it with a pinch of salt (and > > maybe wonder why the other 10% isn't made to do something > > useful too) > > In theory, this is fine. But on my system (512 MB RAM) it's not always like > that. After a few hours of work with a lot of opening apps and documents and

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Jason Healy
At 987806447s since epoch (04/20/01 11:40:47 -0400 UTC), Robert Voigt wrote: > > > What does free say? Are you really out of memory? Does top show anything > > that's eating a lot of memory? Finally, do free and top show the correct > > amount of memory for your system (512MB)? > > I didn't kn

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Voigt
> The thing is, just because some swap space is used, that doesn't mean > that the pages aren't also in physical RAM. Linux is actually very good > about keeping things efficient, and you certainly don't need to reboot > to continue working. Things were getting really slow because the harddriv

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Voigt
> What does free say? Are you really out of memory? Does top show anything > that's eating a lot of memory? Finally, do free and top show the correct > amount of memory for your system (512MB)? I didn't know free and top until now, I took the information from KDE system guard, which is probab

Re: RAM economy tips (OT: pre?)

2001-04-20 Thread Jason Healy
At 987780469s since epoch (04/20/01 11:27:49 -0400 UTC), Michael Marziani wrote: > What does the 'pre' mean in 2.2.18pre21? I'm using that kernel too. 'pre' refers to a prerelease version of a kernel. A 'beta' of a kernel release, if you will. The 'stable' releases are 2.2.18, 2.2.19 ... 2.2.X,

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:11:14PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: > > Unless everything slows to a crawl, swaps like mad or runs > > out of memory you should take it with a pinch of salt (and > > maybe wonder why the other 10% isn't made to do something > > useful too) > > In theory, this is fine. But

RE: RAM economy tips (OT: pre?)

2001-04-20 Thread Michael Marziani
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:11 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RAM economy tips > Dont forget that memory is used for caching and suchlike.. > > Why is is so bad to have 90% memory used after all is it > better for it to be unused? you paid for

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Jason Healy
At 987804674s since epoch (04/20/01 11:11:14 -0400 UTC), Robert Voigt wrote: > > In theory, this is fine. But on my system (512 MB RAM) it's not always like > that. What does free say? Are you really out of memory? Does top show anything that's eating a lot of memory? Finally, do free and top

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Voigt
> Dont forget that memory is used for caching and suchlike.. > > Why is is so bad to have 90% memory used after all is it > better for it to be unused? you paid for it! ;) So it is used > to speed things up, cache things you might need and re-used > when you request something in particular.. > >

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Jason Healy
At 987795117s since epoch (04/20/01 10:31:57 -0400 UTC), giovanni sartoni wrote: > Hi everybody > after a few months I am using Debian at home I keep > wandering whether it uses too much RAM. > I have 128MB RAM, I run Debian 2.2r3, > I see 70 - 80 MB used (whow seems worse than Win98 ?!?) > and the

Re: RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread Gordon Hart
> after a few months I am using Debian at home I keep > wandering whether it uses too much RAM. Dont forget that memory is used for caching and suchlike.. Why is is so bad to have 90% memory used after all is it better for it to be unused? you paid for it! ;) So it is used to speed things up, c

RAM economy tips

2001-04-20 Thread giovanni sartoni
Hi everybody after a few months I am using Debian at home I keep wandering whether it uses too much RAM. I have 128MB RAM, I run Debian 2.2r3, run xfree86 with SVGA driver, xdm, and Gnome under WindowMaker. Evan when I log in to Gnome desktop with just 1 Xterm (nothing fancy is started up), I see