Re: Memory RAM SO_DIMM

2025-04-05 Thread David Christensen
On 4/4/25 22:01, William Torrez Corea wrote: I have enabled swap memory, but if i disable the swap memory the machine is slow. I tried running computers without swap and found that they crashed when the running programs used too much memory. Now I allocate 1 GB swap on the system drive duri

Re: Memory RAM SO_DIMM

2025-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
William Torrez Corea composed on 2025-04-04 23:01 (UTC-0600): > I have two memory RAM SO-DIMM in my two slot > The two memory have the following characteristics: >- 12800MHz >- 4GB >- DDR3L > But the BIOS only reflects 1600MHz, why? What happened to the re

Memory RAM SO_DIMM

2025-04-04 Thread William Torrez Corea
I have two memory RAM SO-DIMM in my two slot The two memory have the following characteristics: - 12800MHz - 4GB - DDR3L But the BIOS only reflects 1600MHz, why? What happened to the rest? I have enabled swap memory, but if i disable the swap memory the machine is slow. With kindest

Re: Automatic suspend-to-ram solution for Workstations

2024-12-13 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 17:44 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > Assuming this backup is started by an automated system under control of > the sysadmins, and not by the users themselves, it's probably easiest > to use some sort of "lock" that is set by the backup process itself (or > that you wrap around it)

Re: Automatic suspend-to-ram solution for Workstations

2024-12-13 Thread Jan Claeys
On Sat, 2024-12-07 at 20:27 +0100, Felix Natter wrote: > - there is no significant load during the last hour (in order to > account for backup jobs) Assuming this backup is started by an automated system under control of the sysadmins, and not by the users themselves, it's probably easiest to use

Re: Automatic suspend-to-ram solution for Workstations

2024-12-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/12/2024 19:53, Anssi Saari wrote: I think every desktop environment has this. Even X has this. 'This' being a timer since last mouse or keyboard event and the ability to trigger a command on the timer. I looked recently but didn't really find a way to do the Windows like thing, turn off scr

Re: Automatic suspend-to-ram solution for Workstations

2024-12-09 Thread Anssi Saari
Felix Natter writes: > Dear Debian users, > > I am looking for an automatic suspend-to-ram (I know "sudo systemctl > suspend" ;-)) solution for workstations: I would like the system to > suspend if and only if: > > - there is no gui interaction from any user (e

Re: Automatic suspend-to-ram solution for Workstations

2024-12-07 Thread Will Mengarini
.] no gui interaction [...] (especially with VNC [...]) [...] That's a lot harder. Theoretically `w` shows idle time, but I'm not sure you can trust it with layers of GUI interaction. Full original post: > I am looking for an automatic suspend-to-ram (I know "sudo systemctl > suspend" ;

Automatic suspend-to-ram solution for Workstations

2024-12-07 Thread Felix Natter
Dear Debian users, I am looking for an automatic suspend-to-ram (I know "sudo systemctl suspend" ;-)) solution for workstations: I would like the system to suspend if and only if: - there is no gui interaction from any user (especially with VNC sessions) AND - there is no signif

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I guess that depends. I remember having a cheap or free trial VPS for a > month with just 512 MB. Git ran out of RAM trying to check out the Linux I can confirm that even 1GB of RAM is not really sufficient to use a Git repository that tracks the Linux kernel (I've so far been able

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 21:54 +0200, from anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi (Anssi Saari): >> I have successfully booted Debian Bookworm (without a GUI) on VMs with >> slightly less than 256 MB RAM, so 512 MB should be plenty. > > I guess that depends. I remember having a cheap or

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Anssi Saari
Michael Kjörling writes: > I have successfully booted Debian Bookworm (without a GUI) on VMs with > slightly less than 256 MB RAM, so 512 MB should be plenty. I guess that depends. I remember having a cheap or free trial VPS for a month with just 512 MB. Git ran out of RAM trying to che

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only > 512mb ram. for this limited ram what debian release should be better > to install? All Debian releases are generally quite good for limited RAM circumstances. IME the main limit is the RAM used by `apt`, so for

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 05:30:08PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? Although the smallest VM we sell to customers is 1.5GiB RAM, I have so

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 22:49 +0800, from h...@bitfox.ddns.net (Bitfox): > Do you think if it's suitable to run a apache2 + php7 server for my personal > project (not wordpress)? I would say no; for the simple reason that it appears that no PHP 7 release is currently supported upstream. -- Michael Kjörli

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Bitfox
In addition to platform concerns, you'll have to figure out what you're running on this VPS, how to make it all fit within the available RAM (with or without swap), and which Debian version(s) support your applications. Do you think if it's suitable to run a apache2 + php

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 17:30:08 +0800, Bitfox wrote: > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? They probably install Debian on it for you; you usually don't get to run

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 05:30:08PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? The current one, bookworm, unless you mean something else by "release&qu

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 05:30:08PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > Hi > > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? > > Thanks. > Whatever your VPS vendor will support o

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 17:30 +0800, from h...@bitfox.ddns.net (Bitfox): > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? Bookworm (in other words, Stable). https://www.debian.org/releas

debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Bitfox
Hi I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb ram. for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? Thanks.

Re: Quickemu Problem with amount of RAM

2024-05-18 Thread Geert Stappers
>     ~/VM ~/VM >     Quickemu 4.9.4 using /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 v7.2.9 > - Host: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) running Linux 6.1 (Abanormal) > - CPU:  AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor > - CPU VM:   1 Socket(s), 2 Core(s), 2 Thread(s), 4G RAM >     ER

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread The Wanderer
t's more the separate indented blocks for each distinct item being described, and the use of lowercase rather than ALL_CAPS field labels, that makes the difference. > but, I had no problem in finding and understanding the applicable > output for describing the RAM component of the hardware.

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/6/23 04:52, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-06-12 at 16:45, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote: I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the command line. The information needed is :- Total RAM stored

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Mick Ab wrote: > I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the > information returned is not reliable. You keep saying that, but have you got any evidence of it? And if so, it is the unreliability of omission or making things up, or being random in the returned data? -

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-06-12 at 16:45, Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote: >> >>> I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the >>> command line. The information needed is :- &g

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote: I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the command line. The information needed is :- Total RAM stored Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick Type of RAM e.g. DDR4 Speed of

Re: RAM in inxi

2023-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
inxi, currently at 3.3.27-12, released yesterday. https://smxi.org/ is author's home page, which links to his own forum. 3.3.27-12 contains a WIP of memory reporting improvements. If you wish to be heard on the subject, or have questions about or problems with pinxi, h2 is all ears. Maximum RAM

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote: > I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the > command line. The information needed is :- > > Total RAM stored > Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick > Type of RAM e.g. DDR4 > Speed

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Mick Ab wrote: I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the information returned is not reliable. Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM information ? According to man inxi the command "inxi -mxx" tries to

Re: RAM

2023-06-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:06:06 +0100 Mick Ab wrote: > I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of > the information returned is not reliable. > > Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM > information ? Any tool, dmidecode included, is

RAM

2023-06-12 Thread Mick Ab
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the command line. The information needed is :- Total RAM stored Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick Type of RAM e.g. DDR4 Speed of RAM e.g. 3200 MHz Manufacturer and model number of RAM I have seen the

Re: Fwd: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-16 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2022-08-16 at 07:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The following two commands are equivalent: > > echo 1 > sudo /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches > > echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches > sudo > > The file "sudo" will have "1 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" in it, because > echo received two arguments.  Red

Re: Fwd: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 08:25:12AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 21:05 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the clarification. `echo 1 > sudo /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` > > seems to work just fine. > > It doesn't, as Tomas pointed out it creates a file called 'sudo

Re: Fwd: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-16 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 12:36 AM wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 09:05:59PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > -- Forwarded message - > > From: Timothy M Butterworth > > Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 9:04 PM > > Subject: Re: Clear

Re: Fwd: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-16 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 21:05 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > Thanks for the clarification. `echo 1 > sudo /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` > seems to work just fine. It doesn't, as Tomas pointed out it creates a file called 'sudo' and puts a '1' in it. Output redirection done with a single '>'

Re: Fwd: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 09:05:59PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > -- Forwarded message - > From: Timothy M Butterworth > Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: Clearing RAM Caches > To: Tixy > > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at

Fwd: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-15 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
-- Forwarded message - From: Timothy M Butterworth Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Clearing RAM Caches To: Tixy On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 4:12 AM Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 02:50 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > When I run `sudo echo

Re: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-15 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12022-08-15): > echo 1 | sudo dd of=/proc/sys/and-so-on sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/and-so-on" Or, in this particular case: sudo systcl -w and-so-on=1 Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 11:13:07AM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Timothy M Butterworth writes: > > > When I run `sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` I receive the following > > error: bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied > > Unfortunately, it's your current shell and not root who

Re: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Timothy M Butterworth writes: > When I run `sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` I receive the following > error: bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied Unfortunately, it's your current shell and not root who does the redirection in this case so no permissions. For a longer expla

Re: Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-15 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 02:50 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > When I run `sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` I receive the following > error: bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied Because the output redirection occurs as your normal user, all you are doing is executing the 'ec

Clearing RAM Caches

2022-08-14 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
When I run `sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` I receive the following error: bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied I have `%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL` in my /etc/sudoers file. All commands should be allowed for group sudo. ls -la /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches --w--- 1 root root 0

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-25 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 12:27 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 04:51:51PM +, Adam Weremczuk wrote: > > [Tue Mar 22 00:24:10 2022] Tasks state (memory values in pages): > > [Tue Mar 22 00:24:10 2022] [ pid ] uid tgid total_vm rss > > pgtables_bytes swapents oom_score

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 04:51:51PM +, Adam Weremczuk wrote: > [Tue Mar 22 00:24:10 2022] Tasks state (memory values in pages): > [Tue Mar 22 00:24:10 2022] [  pid  ]   uid  tgid total_vm  rss > pgtables_bytes swapents oom_score_adj name > [Tue Mar 22 00:24:10 2022] [   2211] 0  2211   

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-25 Thread Adam Weremczuk
little use of RAM. I then made the following changes: /etc/sysctl.d/60-my-swappiness.conf vm.swappiness=10 /etc/sysctl.conf vm.swappiness=10 and rebooted. The container was running like that for several months until this morning when its core service (dhcp) started failing. I logged in to

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-24 Thread Nathanael Schweers
100% of swap being used with maybe > 10-20% of RAM in use. If I recall correctly, Linux may choose to swap pages out in order to free up physical memory in order to use said memory for buffers and caches. This is a performance optimization. So if there are pages which have not been touched for

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Charles Kroeger
I use dphys-swapfile this is a system service that auto configures a swap at boot without requiring a static partition. it computes the size of an optimal swap file and or resizes an existing swap file if necessary. it mounts, dismounts, and deletes the swap if not wanted. it doesn't dynamically

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread David Christensen
use of RAM. I then made the following changes: /etc/sysctl.d/60-my-swappiness.conf vm.swappiness=10 /etc/sysctl.conf vm.swappiness=10 and rebooted. The container was running like that for several months until this morning when its core service (dhcp) started failing. I logged in to

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 04:00:23PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:17 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 01:00:42PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > That's the usual issue. The /tmp filesystem is usually confi

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:17 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 01:00:42PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > That's the usual issue. The /tmp filesystem is usually configured to live > > in RAM, > > That's not the default in Debian. Of course, i

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 01:00:42PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > That's the usual issue. The /tmp filesystem is usually configured to live > in RAM, That's not the default in Debian. Of course, it might have been set up that way on the OP's system. > at some point

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
> > > > The rule of thumb to which I am accustomed is to have a swap space > > double the physical RAM. If necessary, you can create a swap file and > > add that to your /etc/fstab. That might help with your current problem. > . > That said, there is probably something el

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:55:34 + > Adam Weremczuk wrote: > > > It has 512 MB of memory and 512 MB of swap assigned and typically > > needs 50-100 MB to operate. > > The rule of thumb to which I am accustomed is to have a swap space &g

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
ccustomed is to have a swap space > double the physical RAM. If necessary, you can create a swap file and > add that to your /etc/fstab. That might help with your current problem. All those rules of thumb are crap. They assume so many things that you just can't assume. If a system is fil

Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:55:34 + Adam Weremczuk wrote: > It has 512 MB of memory and 512 MB of swap assigned and typically > needs 50-100 MB to operate. The rule of thumb to which I am accustomed is to have a swap space double the physical RAM. If necessary, you can create a swap file a

swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available

2022-03-22 Thread Adam Weremczuk
Hi all, I run a tiny and lightweight Debian 9.9 LXC container on Proxmox 6.2-6. It has 512 MB of memory and 512 MB of swap assigned and typically needs 50-100 MB to operate. Last year I started seeing about half of swap being used with very little use of RAM. I then made the following

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 04:06:01PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > Ottavio Caruso writes: > > > One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB > > ram only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it > > won't be as fast as 2x2GB ra

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
Ottavio Caruso writes: > One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB > ram only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it > won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if I am > wrong). Never mind put an 8GB stick; it might not

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-06 Thread David Christensen
598 Info:  Processes: 167 Uptime: 15h 46m Memory: 1.73 GiB used: 899.0 MiB (50.8%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32 Memory:    RAM: total: 1.73 GiB used: 898.5 MiB (50.7%)    Array-1: capacity: 16 GiB slots: 2 EC: None    Device-1: ChannelA-DIMM0 size: No Module Installed   

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-05 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 10:03:44AM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 04/03/2022 14:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Or just ditch the desktop environment altogether and use a > > honest window manager (e.g. Fvwm > > Is it still around? I used to use it circa 2003... Yes, of course. It's distribute

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread David Christensen
state drives? with 2GB ram only. What make/ model/ part number are the memory module(s)? I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if I am wrong). If the motherboard, chipset, CPU, GPU, etc., support multiple m

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 4:58 AM Christian Britz wrote: > > On 2022-03-04 11:47 UTC+0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB ram > > only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it won't > >

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-04 16:10 UTC+0100, Hans wrote: > There are also other WM available, which may be faster, like fvwm95, openbox, > twm. amiwm ;-) -- http://www.cb-fraggle.de

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Hans
I am a great fan of my old EEEPC, beecause it is tiny and running a long time. But it is 32-bit, not fast, although I spent him 2GB fast RAM and a SSD. So I tested with several window managers. There was no number 1 winner, but IMO the fastest one was LXDE. Almsot the same speed gave me XFCE

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 05:56:50AM -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: [...] > I keep hearing about Xfce being "light" > > it defiantly is, but I decided to compare it to my personal favorite Mate > > Two fresh netinstalls, same machine, same SSD drive. Xfce and Mate desktop

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 4 Mar 2022 at 05:56, Peter Ehlert wrote: > xfce:  774 MIB ram used .. 4 GIB / space used > mate:  719 MIB ram used .. 6 GIB / space used > mate*:  722 MIB ram used .. 6 GIB / space used stumpwm: 86 MB, 1.3 GB ;-) -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 3/4/22 02:58, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-04 11:47 UTC+0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB ram only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/04/2022 04:47 AM, Ottavio Caruso wrote: One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB ram I suspect the specific model of Thinkpad may be relevant. HTH only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? St

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-04 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-04 11:47 UTC+0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB ram > only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it won't > be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if I am wrong). Never mind >

Re: Missing some RAM?

2021-08-03 Thread local10
Aug 3, 2021, 10:56 by s...@svenhartge.de: > So in the end, we have 2812MB + 4846MB = 7658MB (approx) usable for the > system as a whole. The Kernel and it data structures also take some of > this, so to have ~7400MB as usable memory is not unreasonable. > Thanks for the explanation.

Re: Missing some RAM?

2021-08-03 Thread Sven Hartge
20: [mem 0xfec0-0x] reserved > BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0001-0x00022fff] usable > e820: update [mem 0x-0x0fff] usable ==> reserved > e820: remove [mem 0x000a-0x000f] usable > e820: update [mem 0xafe0-0xffff] usable ==&

Re: Missing some RAM?

2021-08-03 Thread local10
0.005949] e820: update [mem 0x-0x0fff] usable ==> reserved [    0.005951] e820: remove [mem 0x000a-0x000f] usable [    0.014336] e820: update [mem 0xafe0-0x] usable ==> reserved [    0.221537] Aperture pointing to e820 RAM. Ignoring. [    0.438742] e820: rese

Re: Missing some RAM?

2021-08-03 Thread Sven Hartge
local10 wrote: > The "why 1G memory is missing?" thread got me thinking. My PC also > seems to be missing hundreds MB of RAM and that's how it's been for > years. I have 4*2GB RAM boards so, in theory, I should've had 8GB of > RAM but top shows only 7472.2MiB

Missing some RAM?

2021-08-03 Thread local10
Hi, The "why 1G memory is missing?" thread got me thinking. My PC also seems to be missing hundreds MB of RAM and that's how it's been for years. I have 4*2GB RAM boards so, in theory, I should've had 8GB of RAM but top shows only 7472.2MiB. Even after the MiB to MB

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-11 Thread songbird
Marco Möller wrote: > On 10.03.21 19:28, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > (...) >> I don't think there is a Debian DVD iso I can use to install Debian >> Bullseye. >> I think I'll have to install Buster and then switch to Bullseye. >> Is there a better option? > > To my knowledge, there is a Bulleye i

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> <http://trinitydesktop.org/> > TDE is the only DE I use on my Debians. Light it is, but with a feature set that > floats my boat very well. > I had only 2GB RAM on this old Core2Duo until recently: > > # free # on fresh boot to multi-user.target >

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Felix Miata
n my Debians. Light it is, but with a feature set that floats my boat very well. I had only 2GB RAM on this old Core2Duo until recently: # free # on fresh boot to multi-user.target totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem:4040856 126748

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 16:55:39, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Sorry, I wasn't clear: first Buster then Bullseye. That way I will stay on > Bullseye > when it becomes "stable". I think it will happen soon, won't it? It's a few months away, which in Debian's timeline is indeed soon ;) Kind regards, A

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Be aware that although testing has less churn than unstable, that also means that when a bug does creep through, it may take a week or two to see the next release of the software, whereas unstable might see the fix come in later that same day. > > It's a trade-off. Sorry, I wasn't clear: first B

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Kent West
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 1:42 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Thanks. I think I would rather prefer non-free software as a second > option. > > Since I'm new to this, I would prefer to go the safe way: first Debian > 10, then testing. > > Be aware that although testing has less churn than unsta

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> To my knowledge, there is a Bulleye installer available here: > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > It is still a test version, but you have good chances that it will work > just fine. As described before, "testing" in Debian does not mean > "unstable". With some bad luck for you, yo

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.03.21 19:28, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: (...) I don't think there is a Debian DVD iso I can use to install Debian Bullseye. I think I'll have to install Buster and then switch to Bullseye. Is there a better option? To my knowledge, there is a Bulleye installer available here: https://www

Re: Plasma can be a lightweight (was: Hardware requirements between Debian 9 and 10; and was also: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?)

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
tweight as it was before. > >> Apparently, its performance is comparable to that of KDE > >> or GNOME. > > > This may be where that came from: > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvJOXypAbk> > > > Here's a simple look at RAM before and after first la

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> I recommend to use "testing" (currently Bullseye) on an individual Laptop/Desktop Computer, and leave "stable" for server or cooperate end user installations. Usually "testing" is very stable concerning reliability for the every day interactive work and during the frequent upgrades (which you sho

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> If you have the drive-space for it, install it, along with something lighter like Cinnamon or LXQt. > > Then all it takes to switch between the alternatives is to log out, find the settings icon on your login manager, select your alternative, and log back in. > > If KDE proves to be too sluggish,

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Debian bullseye (soon to be Debian 11) is already in the "freeze" stage. > > It should be quite reliable in daily usage though you are still going to > see (small) updates to many packages. > > Official security support is not started yet, but security relevant > updates should be prioritised whe

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.03.21 13:51, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: (...) My last doubt is if should use Debian 10 with KDE Plasma or Debian Bullseye instead. I recommend to use "testing" (currently Bullseye) on an individual Laptop/Desktop Computer, and leave "stable" for server or cooperate end user installation

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:34 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > Hello. > > I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task > on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, > it doesn't have a GPU. > Do you think it would run without problems &g

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 08:51:33, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > My last doubt is if should use Debian 10 with KDE Plasma or Debian Bullseye > instead. > Apparently, only the newer versions of KDE Plasma have the performance > boost. Debian bullseye (soon to be Debian 11) is already in the "freeze" sta

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El 10/03/2021 07:53, "Marco Möller" escribió: > > > On 10.03.21 04:34, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: >> >> Hello. >> >> I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task >> on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, >&

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Commandante Alpha- > Full disclosure, I have always preferred KDE over gnome and alternatives. It's just more complete and tight. But there are some older systems I can't really use it on. I don't NEED a massive window manager and apps, I was a fan of twm for years. I dont mind xfce either, it's

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 5:23 AM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > I would not do that. I run xfce under Debian 10.4 in 8GB, it's very > light weight for a window manager. MUCH lighter than KDE. But still a > little slow sometimes, with more than a few apps open SubCommandante > Geovanis > > 😂 > >

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.03.21 04:34, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, it doesn't have a GPU. Do you think it would run without problems or would it be slow and laggy? Thanks in ad

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 March 2021 06:26:22 Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Yes, I think it will not work - better try lighter desktops or the > > older > > KDE > > > that is called now Trinity Desktop > > How is that TDE? Is it like KDE but much lighter? > What are the main differences? > > Sorry, I'm ne

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Yeah it will work, although it'll work a lot better if you can get an extra 4Gb off Ebay, I paid about £25. By it will work you mean: your computer will boot; or: it will be usable? He he, thanks for your help.

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Try Enlightenment. > It's very configurable once get familiar with all the options. > Cheers! I saw it was there, but it looks a little difficult to get it working according to what I read about it. Also, I don't know if loading Gtk+, Qt and EFL at the same time at RAM w

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread James Allsopp
Also, you could spend a bit on money on an SSD, I did. On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 11:31, James Allsopp wrote: > Yeah it will work, although it'll work a lot better if you can get an > extra 4Gb off Ebay, I paid about £25. > > For reference I was running it on a 3Ghz 4GbRam Core2Duo. > > On Wed, 10

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread James Allsopp
Yeah it will work, although it'll work a lot better if you can get an extra 4Gb off Ebay, I paid about £25. For reference I was running it on a 3Ghz 4GbRam Core2Duo. On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 11:23, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > I would not do that. I run xfce under Debian 10.4 in 8GB, it's very

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Yes, I think it will not work - better try lighter desktops or the older KDE > that is called now Trinity Desktop How is that TDE? Is it like KDE but much lighter? What are the main differences? Sorry, I'm new to GNU/Linux OSes.

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