Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/08/08 21:15, s. keeling wrote: > > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... > >> > >> Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. > > > > If you only listen to d-u and Usenet

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 21:15, s. keeling wrote: Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. If you only listen to d-u and Usenet, the power of those users' noise can be deafening. On the other hand

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread s. keeling
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... > > Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. If you only listen to d-u and Usenet, the power of those users' noise can be deafening. On the other hand, there are huge moves in corpor

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-01 13:35:36, schrieb Paul Johnson: > Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic > reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since > trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers > off and limits their freedoms. Right, b

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-03 Thread joseph lockhart
--- Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West > wrote: > ... > > > I can control my system, I can't control my > clients' computers, so > > > I want a minimum of possible errors on their > computers. > > > > > > I would not want to make it easy f

Re: Galeon R.I.P?(resent to list, sorry hal)

2008-01-02 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 2, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Angus Auld wrote: I'm not familiar with the flow of things here on this list, but I hope no one is offended if I am amused by these sort of communications. It's all in good fun. (I hope. That's how I intended my comment, anyway.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Fwd: Re: Galeon R.I.P?(resent to list, sorry hal)

2008-01-02 Thread Angus Auld
--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:58:54 -0800 (PST) > From: Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Galeon R.I.P? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On W

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 01/02/08 08:20, s. keeling wrote: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Says you. I think you should spend the next year in a

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/08 08:20, s. keeling wrote: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Says you. I think you should spend the next year in a Cat in the Hat suit, but I doubt you'll comply. He wears furry bear suit

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 1, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: I know some people respect (such as RMS) say that, but I also think it's a statement that's more easily made by people who get nice tidy paychecks and aren't the ones who have to figure out how to do the marketing. AMEN to that. It's so easy for

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/08 08:20, s. keeling wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/08 06:21, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> [snip] >> >> Yup. I just had a 2-week fling with KDE. *Really* configurable >> (thank $DEITY, because their defaults suck), but KDE 3.5.8 is a lot >> slower than even GNOME 2.14 and th

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread s. keeling
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with opera > > > >

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/07 11:28, ZephyrQ wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Peter Moulding
Hal Vaughan wrote: I think eventually we'll see more open source than closed source, but over the past 25 years or so, it seems the innovations have been made in closed source, then emulated in open source. There are advantages to different business models. The first IBM mainframes back in t

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread David
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and compete. Maybe later, bu

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... > > I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so > > I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. > > > > I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and > > compete. Maybe later, but I

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:52:16PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > Hardware has scarcity which software

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > > ... > > > > Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic > > > reason to sell software. Programmers sh

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... > > > > Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic > > reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since > > trying to sell the product is,

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/01/08 15:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Angus Auld
--- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Angus Auld wrote: > > --- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> big snip>> > >>Just played with Opera for a while. I was > >> impressed. Not afraid to > >> pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage > >> (heck, considering how > >> mu

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: > > > > > It does se

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: > > > > > > > It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's be

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread ZephyrQ
Angus Auld wrote: --- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: big snip>> Just played with Opera for a while. I was impressed. Not afraid to pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage (heck, considering how much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few bucks here and there f

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread s. keeling
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: > > > > > It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my > > > > Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep

Re: [Wildly OT] Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Micha
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:31:39 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > It's a Very Big Universe, and I'm not hubristic (is that a word?) > > enough to make such a claim. > > For the Jesus-followers out there, he put it this way for the > know-it-alls, which agrees with

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Angus Auld
--- ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>big snip>> > Just played with Opera for a while. I was > impressed. Not afraid to > pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage > (heck, considering how > much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few > bucks here and there > for a pr

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-31 Thread ZephyrQ
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of th

Re: [Wildly OT] Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-31 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: It's a Very Big Universe, and I'm not hubristic (is that a word?) enough to make such a claim. For the Jesus-followers out there, he put it this way for the know-it-alls, which agrees with Ron's take on matters: /"If you were blind," Jesus told them, "you wouldn't have sin.

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/07 11:28, ZephyrQ wrote: > Kelly Clowers wrote: >> On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is >>> does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updat

[Wildly OT] Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/30/07 22:45, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 30 December 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 12/30/07 21:04, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote:

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-31 Thread ZephyrQ
Kelly Clowers wrote: On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of things I've not be able to reproduce

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 30 December 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/30/07 21:04, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: > >>> It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been > >>> my browser

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/30/07 21:04, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: >> >>> It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my >>> browser of choi

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-30 Thread David
default wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my browser of choice for many moons. Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with opera for speed. Shame it's not Open Source, but you can

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: > > > It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my > > browser of choice for many moons. > > Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with o

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-30 Thread Angus Auld
--- Allan Wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-29T10:50:18-0600, ZephyrQ wrote: > > Tabs...on the -right- hand side. After using > Galeon for **years**, I > > miss this and the 'tab' plug-in only lets me put > tabs on the > > top/bottom/left. > > Did you try the Tab Control add-on? >

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-29 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Dec 29, 2007 8:50 AM, ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is > does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried > FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of things I've not be able to reproduce: > > Tabs...on th

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-29 Thread Allan Wind
On 2007-12-29T10:50:18-0600, ZephyrQ wrote: > Tabs...on the -right- hand side. After using Galeon for **years**, I > miss this and the 'tab' plug-in only lets me put tabs on the > top/bottom/left. Did you try the Tab Control add-on? > Quickloading of pages. I don't know if this is a Galeon th

Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-29 Thread ZephyrQ
With all the news of Netscape 'fading off' into mozilla and its ilk, is does anyone know if Galeon is ever going to be updated? I've tried FireFox/etc. and there are a couple of things I've not be able to reproduce: Tabs...on the -right- hand side. After using Galeon for **years**, I miss th

Re: R.I.P

1997-09-01 Thread Kevin Scott
John, Did you by any chance defragment the win95 partition? We have a machine where doing this seems to upset the linux partition - best guess was that the win95 defragmenter had a record of the disk partitioning, but hadn't noticed that FIPS had shrunk the linux partition. We couldn't quite

Re: R.I.P

1997-08-30 Thread Dale Thomas Harrison
> Well it looks like i may just have to accept microsmurfdom. :-). > My debian partition has gone and r--ted itself somehow. > I shutdown last time using shutdown -r 0 back into win95 then later tried > to access it and ouch. > > I recieved the following. > > Attempt to access beyond end of devic

Re: R.I.P

1997-08-30 Thread A. M. Varon
On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, john wrote: > I shutdown last time using shutdown -r 0 back into win95 then later tried > to access it and ouch. > > I recieved the following. > > Attempt to access beyond end of device 08:03:rw=0, want=1939953655, > limit=979965 EXT2-fs error (device08:03): ext2_find_entry:

R.I.P

1997-08-30 Thread john
Well it looks like i may just have to accept microsmurfdom. :-). My debian partition has gone and r--ted itself somehow. I shutdown last time using shutdown -r 0 back into win95 then later tried to access it and ouch. I recieved the following. Attempt to access beyond end of device 08:03:rw=0, wa