Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

2000-01-01 Thread aphro
something i'd really like is web integration with the package management, its really cool to be able to click on a tardist file (IRIX package format) and have it launch the software manager (X based) and prompt to setup/install the package. i read i think on linux.com on how to add this functional

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

2000-01-01 Thread aphro
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Fish Smith wrote: dyson_ >>There are two really horrible things about Debian, dyson_ >>though. 1) The dyson_ >>dselect dyson_ >>package handler. I'm speaking from Debian 2.1 here. dyson_ >>It has a very dyson_ >>primitive interface and is incredibly tedious. Maybe dyson_ >>the

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

2000-01-01 Thread Nate Duehr
On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 06:36:43PM -0500, Paul M. Foster wrote: > Here's another gripe about dselect. When I install, dselect asks me for > the root directory on the CD-ROM. How the hell do I know? The nice part about it (without having looked at the code, only the user interface) is that it a

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-31 Thread Paul M. Foster
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Nate Duehr wrote: > There's a version of linuxconf undergoing testing for Debian in potato right > now. > Good news. I'm glad somebody is sharing tools, instead of the "not made here" syndrome. > What's RedHat got that's better than dselect? I haven't seen any decent >

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-31 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 31 Dec, Fish Smith wrote about "Re: Proposal: Source file package format " >>Big problem is getting guys like LSB to buy the .deb >>format. I haven't >>researched it, but even guys on the Red Hat list say >>it's better. > >>There are two

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-31 Thread Nate Duehr
There's a version of linuxconf undergoing testing for Debian in potato right now. What's RedHat got that's better than dselect? I haven't seen any decent tools for RPM's that provide: 1. Integration with an outside program to download all necessary files from a package mirror. 2. Listings of a

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-31 Thread Fish Smith
>Big problem is getting guys like LSB to buy the .deb >format. I haven't >researched it, but even guys on the Red Hat list say >it's better. >There are two really horrible things about Debian, >though. 1) The >dselect >package handler. I'm speaking from Debian 2.1 here. >It has a very >primitive i

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-31 Thread Paul M. Foster
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, aphro wrote: > On 30 Dec 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > nick >Quoting Svante Signell: > nick >> - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB. > nick > > nick >I beg your pardon? > > RPM is one of the biggest pieces of crap ive seen..i spent 20 minutes > workin

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
dpkg and rpm and slp(stampede) people should get together and work out a new format for future linux distributions..take the best from everything, and have it be a neutral name that gives credit to any 1 group/company for comming up with it. i dont have experience using slp but from what i read it

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread JF Martinez
> > Hi, > > Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format: > > - Good idea! > - Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for > Unix, not only Linux. Who cares about Unix? the sooner Linux kills it the best. > - Source management problems, no-one

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On 30 Dec 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: nick >Quoting Svante Signell: nick >> - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB. nick > nick > I beg your pardon? RPM is one of the biggest pieces of crap ive seen..i spent 20 minutes working on a redhat5.1 machine(from telnet) and it about drove me M

Re: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 09:46:10PM -0500, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: >What I would suggest is having the .tar.gz source file, plus another file, >with a .build-rh.rpm , .build-mdk.rpm .build.deb extension. > >That way, the author only has to maintain his source code, support for >particular distribut

Re: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
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Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Svante Signell: > - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB. I beg your pardon? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format: - Good idea! - Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for Unix, not only Linux. - Source management problems, no-one is interested in BOTH .rpms and .debs! What about experimental versions? - For

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-04 Thread Richard Stallman
[The lists redhat-devel-list@redhat.com and gnome-list@gnome.org would not let me post to them. If you can, would you please forward this reply to those lists?] If people in the LSB are now interested in working with the GNU Project, that's a good thing. Starting with this basic willingness to c

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
>> ... the LSB is working with GNU Project developers, especially from >> Debian. ... Dylan Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ Dylan's private email is quoted with his permission ] > One comment that you probably know by now: Debian is not the GNU > project. There is no official relation be

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Subject: Re: Proposal: Source file package format >> >> ++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB) > Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU operating > system that use Linux as th

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB) Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU operating system that use Linux as the kernel is a useful job. The GNU Project would be happy to cooperate with other people on this, if they approach us in a cooperative spirit r

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-11-28 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Svante Signell wrote: > Greetings, > > What do you think of the following proposal: > > In order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce > duplication, > distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) format. This > avoids > the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-11-28 Thread Oliver Elphick
Svante Signell wrote: >What do you think of the following proposal: > >I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce >duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) >format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and >debian

Proposal: Source file package format

1999-11-28 Thread Svante Signell
Greetings, What do you think of the following proposal: I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and debian source files. Included in