Re: Debian & Progeny Debian?

2001-09-10 Thread Harold Bibik
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 04:56:14PM +0800, Paolo Alexis Falcone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something like: >Would anyone recommend >Progeny Debian instead? I looked at their web site and it looked good - >the matter in question would be - would it be as good for a beginner? >Can a

Re: Debian & Progeny Debian?

2001-09-10 Thread elawson
>Can anyone give a qualitative analysis on Progeny? It seems a mixed bag to me. I have had it install ok sometimes and then not install other times on same hardware. The package manager is not even close to Stormpkg, and the desktop is quirky at times. In other respects it seems quite nice so

Re: Debian & Progeny Debian?

2001-09-10 Thread Kamil Kisiel
t failed and I almost didn't get my > machine problem done had I not checked RedHat's fixes). I would prefer my > newbie friend and classmate in computer science to try out Debian, but it > might intimidate her initially (she's currently a Windows user). Would > anyone recom

Re: Debian & Progeny Debian?

2001-09-09 Thread ktb
classmate in computer science to try out Debian, but it > might intimidate her initially (she's currently a Windows user). Would anyone > recommend Progeny Debian instead? I looked at their web site and it looked > good - the matter in question would be - would it be as good for a

Re: Debian & Progeny Debian?

2001-09-09 Thread dman
fer my newbie friend | and classmate in computer science to try out Debian, but it might | intimidate her initially (she's currently a Windows user). Would | anyone recommend Progeny Debian instead? I looked at their web site | and it looked good - the matter in question would be - would it be

Debian & Progeny Debian?

2001-09-09 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
ly a Windows user). Would anyone recommend Progeny Debian instead? I looked at their web site and it looked good - the matter in question would be - would it be as good for a beginner? Can anyone give a qualitative analysis on Progeny? Thanks! Paolo Falcone __ www.edsamail.com

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-08-28 Thread Harold Bibik
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 02:29:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled > Alright. Now I am down to thinking progeny would be the best to nab. But > here is what I don't know yet... > > Are the downloads upgrades free from their servers? > Does anyone have any experience upg

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 02:29:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Alright. Now I am down to thinking progeny would be the best to nab. > But here is what I don't know yet... > > Are the downloads upgrades free from their servers? I believe so, and would be surprised if they weren't (most of t

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-08-27 Thread Kamil Kisiel
I installed Progeny on my system (to simplify the installation procedure) and then upgraded it to Woody soon after without any problem, all it took is modifying my sources.list and doing an "apt-get dist-upgrade". So far, after more than a month of use I have not seen any problems arise from thi

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-08-27 Thread DanSV
In a message dated 8/27/01 2:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: work I use potato on my servers and woody on my workstation.  But, at home I decided to try out Progeny.  It's a nice distrobution, and yes the updates are free.  It uses Grub instead of lilo, and when you

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-08-27 Thread Wayne Sitton
At work I use potato on my servers and woody on my workstation. But, at home I decided to try out Progeny. It's a nice distrobution, and yes the updates are free. It uses Grub instead of lilo, and when you update it also updates to the the current kernel that progeny is using. At work I manu

Progeny Debian

2001-08-27 Thread DanSV
Alright.  Now I am down to thinking progeny would be the best to nab.  But here is what I don't know yet... Are the downloads upgrades free from their servers? Does anyone have any experience upgrading from progeny to woody/sid? - Dan I think the progeny installer, and software included makes

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-31 Thread will trillich
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:03:59AM +1000, Krisno Pryosusilo wrote: > I'm a relatively new user of Linux and have since yesterday, migrated > from SuSE 7.1 to a boxed version 1.0 of Progeny Debian. > I chose Progeny because of my perception that Progeny would be easier to > instal

Re: Network Printing with Progeny/Debian

2001-05-26 Thread Sebastian Becerra
> I am the proud owner of a nice new Progeny system but, since I > cannot seem to locate anything on their website concerning an email > reflector, I thought I would ask here. Please, as a favor, please > redirect flames to dev=NULL. I believe you mean "/dev/null". ;-) >When I try to access

Network Printing with Progeny/Debian

2001-05-26 Thread Jim Darrough
Greetings! I am the proud owner of a nice new Progeny system but, since I cannot seem to locate anything on their website concerning an email reflector, I thought I would ask here. Please, as a favor, please redirect flames to dev=NULL. I have an HP OfficeJet 630 hooked up to the debian

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread DvB
Krisno Pryosusilo wrote: Thanks Colin and Lee for your very helpfull answers! I stumbled upon dpkg in an article on Debian Planet, and it was nice to get verification from you both. Cheers Krisno You might also want to check out the debian FAQ at http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Especially

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Krisno Pryosusilo
Thanks Colin and Lee for your very helpfull answers! I stumbled upon dpkg in an article on Debian Planet, and it was nice to get verification from you both. Cheers Krisno

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Gordon Hart
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:03:59AM +1000, Krisno Pryosusilo wrote: > Hi, > Question 1 : -> Is there a simple blow by blow description on how to > install a deb package which is currently in a directory on my > hard-drive? dpkg -i filename > The reason : -> > I'm trying to install Opera and under

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Ian Lee
- Original Message - From: "Krisno Pryosusilo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user. > Hi, > I'm a relatively new user of Linux and have since yesterday, migrated > fr

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Colin Watson
"debian-user@lists.debian.org" wrote: >Question 1 : -> Is there a simple blow by blow description on how to >install a deb package which is currently in a directory on my >hard-drive? .. or is anyone able to help me as I appear to be lacking a >basic understanding here. Don't use apt here, use th

Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Krisno Pryosusilo
Hi, I'm a relatively new user of Linux and have since yesterday, migrated from SuSE 7.1 to a boxed version 1.0 of Progeny Debian. I chose Progeny because of my perception that Progeny would be easier to install and get running than the non-commercial Debian. However, the progeny users si

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-04-12 Thread Bud Rogers
On Wednesday 11 April 2001 23:53, Rob VanFleet wrote: > quotes. Normally, yes I do trim quotes. This particular time, I was > lazy. I can certainly relate to that. Occasionally my grump quotient spikes for no good reason. Sorry. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~bu

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-04-11 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:11:41PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:52:44PM -0500, Bud Rogers wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 April 2001 19:37, Rob VanFleet wrote: > > > Did you file a bug report with them? It's the least you could do. > > > > Good grief, Rob. Didn't anyone

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-04-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:52:44PM -0500, Bud Rogers wrote: > On Wednesday 11 April 2001 19:37, Rob VanFleet wrote: > > Did you file a bug report with them? It's the least you could do. > > Good grief, Rob. Didn't anyone ever teach you how to trim quotes? Oh no, another flamewar in the making :

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-04-11 Thread Bud Rogers
On Wednesday 11 April 2001 19:37, Rob VanFleet wrote: > Did you file a bug report with them? It's the least you could do. Good grief, Rob. Didn't anyone ever teach you how to trim quotes? -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too mu

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-04-11 Thread Rob VanFleet
if the install won't let me do what i want. i think i'm going > to > have to stick with plain debian and like it. i hope they get some of > those issues worked out. i really do think it's a good idea. > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:29:04 -0400 (EDT), Net Owl whisp

HELP - CS423x sound config and Progeny Debian 1.0

2001-04-11 Thread carl . tan
HI all, Have a problem with sound cards containing these chips. Here's my PC setup: DELL Optiplex GX1 Pentium III-500 192Mb RAM 15GB Hard Disk (Win98, 2 partitions) 4GB Hard Disk (Linux) Sound Chip (Crystal-423x, as reported by Progeny Install), on motherboard

Re: Progeny Debian

2001-04-10 Thread Forrest English
let me do what i want. i think i'm going to have to stick with plain debian and like it. i hope they get some of those issues worked out. i really do think it's a good idea. On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:29:04 -0400 (EDT), Net Owl whispered to the router: !!Hey Users... !! I caught this ar

Progeny Debian

2001-04-10 Thread Net Owl
Hey Users... I caught this article over at /. that other day. It was discussing Progeny Debian. It seems kinda like a neat Idea...What does the list think? Any ideas? anyone already tried it? Thanks, --Net Owl "Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste" "I guess th

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 07:07:40AM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > Same from me. For historical and reality reasons, progeny is as much > part of debian as debian itself. Lets not forget that the > accomplishments of Progeny become available to Debian. And we all serve > the same community: Human

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-10 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Same from me. For historical and reality reasons, progeny is as much part of debian as debian itself. Lets not forget that the accomplishments of Progeny become available to Debian. And we all serve the same community: Humanity. Please continue posting. Antonio R. Chris Howells wrote: > > From: J

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-10 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > As far as I am concerned and as far as I know, progeny is as debian as > any other one. Ah, the good "Inside we're all the same" applied to (Debian-based) Linux distributions. Right on! Cheers, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosen

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-10 Thread Chris Howells
From: Jeff Licquia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We thought that this would be something that Debian people generally > would be interested in, which is why we posted it. If you would > rather not, then that's fine; we won't bother you all on the lists > anymore. I don't consider it to be spam. If it wa

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:13:42 -0500 Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:53:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Media Contact: > > > Aaron Stenhoff > > > Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. > > > (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) > > >

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Licquia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:53:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> So, do we get $1k for posting an advertisement now? > >We thought that this would be something that Debian people generally >would be interested in, which i

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Nathan Dabney
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:30:52PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:53:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Media Contact: > > > Aaron Stenhoff > > > Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. > > > (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
As far as I am concerned and as far as I know, progeny is as debian as any other one. Charles Lewis wrote: > > I for one, do not consider announcements regarding Progeny to be spam. I > applaud Progeny for the contributions they are making to Debian and I > consider announcements such as this to

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:53:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > > Media Contact: > > Aaron Stenhoff > > Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. > > (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > So, do we get $1k for posting an advertisement now? We thought that

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Charles Lewis
I for one, do not consider announcements regarding Progeny to be spam. I applaud Progeny for the contributions they are making to Debian and I consider announcements such as this to be equivalent to announcements of potato or woody being released. -- Charles Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 817-556-4720

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:13:42 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If you don't ever want announcements from Progeny on any subject posted to >any Debian mailing list ever again, speak up now. You desparately need to get your irony/tongue-in-cheek detector adjusted. Greetings Marc -

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released *vote?*

2001-04-09 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
<>If you don't ever want announcements from Progeny on any subject posted to <>any Debian mailing list ever again, speak up now. I would appreciate it if you would continue the posts. About the public repository, WOW! Thanks and I wish you continued success. tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TE

RE: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
> Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > > Media Contact: > > Aaron Stenhoff > > Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. > > (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > So, do we get $1k for posting an advertisement now? > > Wichert. This is from http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ -

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Peter Makholm
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you don't ever want announcements from Progeny on any subject posted to > any Debian mailing list ever again, speak up now. And then I didn't write my oppinion on the subject. I have no problem giving Progeny a 100% reduce for sending Debian-relat

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread ktb
al .debs of XFree86, does that constitute spam? > > Since this message is mentioning all of the above, does it constitute spam? > > > In addition to providing Progeny Debian, the archive.progeny.com site hosts > > a full mirror of the Debian package archives. We welcome downl

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Branden Robinson
t may be useful to North American users. This is noted in the announcement. Does that constitute spam? When I announce experimental .debs of XFree86, does that constitute spam? Since this message is mentioning all of the above, does it constitute spam? > In addition to providing Progeny Debi

Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > Media Contact: > Aaron Stenhoff > Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. > (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, do we get $1k for posting an advertisement now? Wichert. -- / Generally uni

Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Branden Robinson
Media Contact: Aaron Stenhoff Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROGENY LINUX SYSTEMS ROLLS OUT PROGENY DEBIAN Enhanced Version of Debian Available for Download INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana - April 9, 2001 - Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. announces the release of the