Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> The first task of a package manager is to ensure a consistent system
> state by enforcing Depends. However, it is also supposed to make it
> easy to install new software; most users and developers want
> Recommends installed, since without them some advertised featu
On Sb, 20 nov 10, 17:22:39, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>
> I end up installing most Recommends, but I do configure my systems so
> they are not installed automatically.
I tend to install Recommends by default and just disable individual
packages that seem useless for me.
On minimal system
In <4ce83c26.7000...@allums.com>, Mark Allums wrote:
>On 11/20/2010 3:12 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>>> I'm unsure whether I have ever fully grasped the whole apt system, in all
>>> it's glory, but why would a recommends ever be automatically
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 11/20/2010 3:12 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I'm unsure whether I have ever fully grasped the whole apt system, in all
>>> it's glory, but why would a recommends ever be aut
On 11/20/2010 3:12 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
I'm unsure whether I have ever fully grasped the whole apt system, in all
it's glory, but why would a recommends ever be automatically pulled in?
Wouldn't it give the admin complete control ov
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 11/20/2010 4:10 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday 20 November 2010 02:58:32 Jason Heeris wrote:
>>>
>>> On 20 November 2010 07:58, Javier Barroso wrote:
>
> How can be blocked the installation of a package that is
On 11/20/2010 4:10 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Saturday 20 November 2010 02:58:32 Jason Heeris wrote:
On 20 November 2010 07:58, Javier Barroso wrote:
How can be blocked the installation of a package that is not installed?
Pinning it to a negative number [1]? (I didn't try it)
Thi
On Saturday 20 November 2010 02:58:32 Jason Heeris wrote:
> On 20 November 2010 07:58, Javier Barroso wrote:
> >> How can be blocked the installation of a package that is not installed?
> >
> > Pinning it to a negative number [1]? (I didn't try it)
>
> This will work for a normal package, but no
On 20 November 2010 07:58, Javier Barroso wrote:
>> How can be blocked the installation of a package that is not installed?
> Pinning it to a negative number [1]? (I didn't try it)
This will work for a normal package, but not for a virtual package,
which is my original problem.
Cheers,
Jason
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:27 +0800, Jason Heeris wrote:
>
>> On 19 November 2010 14:03, Alan Ianson wrote:
>>> Aptitude installs recommends by default. That can be turned off in
>>> "Options -> Preferences -> Dependency handling -> Install recom
On 19 November 2010 18:39, Camaleón wrote:
>> On 19 November 2010 18:17, Camaleón wrote:
> It has to be global in order to affect all package manager tools. If not,
> when a user installs a package by other means, the "tabu" one could be
> also installed and that should be prevented.
Well, I'm sp
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:24:36 +0800, Jason Heeris wrote:
> On 19 November 2010 18:17, Camaleón wrote:
>> Something like having a "global switch" that prevents any of dpkg, apt-
>> get, aptitude... to get a package going through and warns the user
>> about it.
>
> It doesn't need to be global, some
On 19 November 2010 18:17, Camaleón wrote:
> Something like having a "global switch" that prevents any of dpkg, apt-
> get, aptitude... to get a package going through and warns the user about
> it.
It doesn't need to be global, something that works with either apt or
aptitude will do, since these
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:27 +0800, Jason Heeris wrote:
> On 19 November 2010 14:03, Alan Ianson wrote:
>> Aptitude installs recommends by default. That can be turned off in
>> "Options -> Preferences -> Dependency handling -> Install recommended
>> packages automatically".
>
> I still want to i
On 19 November 2010 14:03, Alan Ianson wrote:
> Aptitude installs recommends by default. That can be turned off in
> "Options -> Preferences -> Dependency handling -> Install recommended
> packages automatically".
I still want to install *most* recommends, just not quite *all*. So
turning this op
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 13:55 +0800, Jason Heeris wrote:
> This originally arose from a discussion on debian-live[1] (sorry to
> anyone who reads both lists, but it seemed more appropriate to
> continue this tangent here).
>
> I wanted to block installation of a couple of recommended packages in
> t
This originally arose from a discussion on debian-live[1] (sorry to
anyone who reads both lists, but it seemed more appropriate to
continue this tangent here).
I wanted to block installation of a couple of recommended packages in
the chroot stage of a live-build, while letting all other recommends
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