Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:50:54PM +0200: > I'm running stable with 1 or 2 debs from unstable and custom build 2.4.20 > kernel with the High Memory Support and Highmem I/O support enabled. When the system is acting sluggish, what does top show you? I've had problems with systems w

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: > I see. I'm pretty new to Debian and all. I've read that a swap partition is > better than the swap file (as in Windoze). I created a 2gig swap partition > because I like to be "prepared". I'm using dialup but hope that I will soon > be us

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:50:54 +0200 "J. Zidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that Debian is not using my ram at all, because I can hear > and see a lot of disk activity happening, which could only mean that the > system is using the swap partition (size 2GB). Not really. What do

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread J. Zidar
Monday 11 of August 2003 19:50 je &e pisal: >On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:33:21PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Nejko Zidarjev wrote: >> > Just a few minutes ago I managed to issue a top command and it >> > appears that I had (or have during the slowdowns) more than 1 >> > (Y

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nejko Zidarjev
Just a few minutes ago I managed to issue a top command and it appears that I had (or have during the slowdowns) more than 1 (YES, you read well!) processes running. the numbers is decreasing as time passess to the overall 42-50, which is kinda expected. I have no idea what spawns (is this th

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 05:14:14PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > However, what, then, would you do with a 2GB partition? I say that > there's no *harm* in leaving your setup just the way it is. If you don't already have it on it's own partition, /var/log. -- Jamin W. Collins This is the typic

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:33:21PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Nejko Zidarjev wrote: > > > > Just a few minutes ago I managed to issue a top command and it > > appears that I had (or have during the slowdowns) more than 1 > > (YES, you read well!) processes running. the nu

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 06:08, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:03:26PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: > > > I see. I'm pretty new to Debian and all. I've read that a swap partition is > > A swap partition is "better", in that it's

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Rob Weir said on Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:08:13PM +1000: > Just as a point of interest, swap files are effectively as fast as swap > partitions in 2.5/2.6. Really? That's cool; swap partitions always felt like a big hack to me. So then 2.6 based systems should be using something like swapd, right

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 18:14, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 06:08, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:03:26PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > > > J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: >

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Joey Hess
J. Zidar wrote: > I've found out that the processes were fetchmaild and run-parts. > > I remember once trying to make a script that would check and download my mail > once connected (I'm using dialup) and I've always thought that is not working > (the script) but I came to realize that is almost

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 16:19, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:49:21 +0200 > "J. Zidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Question: How do I turn off the swap partition (in a few steps)? > > Well, turning it off is easy. swapoff Keeping it off, though, across reboots is the important

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Nejko Zidarjev wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 at 12:56:47, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > > J. Zidar wrote: > > > Hello. I have a very peculiar problem with my Debian install. > > > > > > It seems to me that Debian is not using my ram at all, because I can > > >

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:10:45 +0100 Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Nejko Zidarjev wrote: > Aside from that, why do you have a 2GB swapfile anyway, as you don't > appear to even be close to using all of your physical RAM? I'm sure you know a

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:03:26PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: > > I see. I'm pretty new to Debian and all. I've read that a swap partition is > > better than the swap file (as in Windoze). I created a 2gig swap partition > > because I lik

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On 12 Aug 2003 23:20:34 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How much does an 80GB drive cost now? Add it as /dev/hd[b-f], and > have a rip-roaring time... More than I can afford right now. $20 for 100 CD-R was pushing it. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest,

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:36, Steve Lamb wrote: > On 11 Aug 2003 17:14:14 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, what, then, would you do with a 2GB partition? I say that > > there's no *harm* in leaving your setup just the way it is. > > Until the other partitions are ful

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 12:59, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > Rob Weir said on Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:08:13PM +1000: > > Just as a point of interest, swap files are effectively as fast as swap > > partitions in 2.5/2.6. > > Really? That's cool; swap partitions always felt like a big hack to me. Not a big

Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread J. Zidar
Hello. I have a very peculiar problem with my Debian install. It seems to me that Debian is not using my ram at all, because I can hear and see a lot of disk activity happening, which could only mean that the system is using the swap partition (size 2GB). The net result is that the system gets

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread J. Zidar
Monday 11 of August 2003 16:29 je &e pisal: >On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:10:45 +0100 > >Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Nejko Zidarjev wrote: >> Aside from that, why do you have a 2GB swapfile anyway, as you don't >> appear to even be close to using

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:49:21 +0200 "J. Zidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: How do I turn off the swap partition (in a few steps)? Well, turning it off is easy. swapoff -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 |

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:41:04PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 18:14, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > >knight:~# swapon -s > > >Filename Type SizeUsed Priority > > >/dev/rootvg/swap0

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Nejko Zidarjev wrote: > > Just a few minutes ago I managed to issue a top command and it appears that I > had (or have during the slowdowns) more than 1 (YES, you read well!) > processes running. the numbers is decreasing as time passess to the overall > 42-50, which is ki

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On 11 Aug 2003 17:14:14 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, what, then, would you do with a 2GB partition? I say that > there's no *harm* in leaving your setup just the way it is. Until the other partitions are full up. I remember the day that I bought my 60Gb (was lookin

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:27:35PM +0200, J. Zidar wrote: > Thanks to all the people that helped me clear this issue. Is there a way to > repartition my swap and root partition the "Partition Magic" way (no need to > format etc.) as it seems that my swap partition is to big (2gigs for 1 1gig > o

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:49:21 +0200 "J. Zidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: How do I turn off the swap partition (in a few steps)? man swapoff -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Bouncing Souls - Kid : Punk-O-Rama (Vol. 5) Today is Pungenday, the 4th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3169 My p

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nejko Zidarjev
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 at 12:56:47, Antony Gelberg wrote: > J. Zidar wrote: > > Hello. I have a very peculiar problem with my Debian install. > > > > It seems to me that Debian is not using my ram at all, because I can > > hear and see a lot of disk activity happening, which could only mean > > that

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 06:08, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:03:26PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > > J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: > > > > I see. I'm pretty new to Debian and all. I've read th

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:36, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On 11 Aug 2003 17:14:14 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > However, what, then, would you do with a 2GB partition? I say that > > > there's no *harm* in leaving your setup just the way

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-11 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:50:54PM +0200, J. Zidar wrote: > BTW: Is it normal that XFree86 uses 280 megs of ram? Maybe. That figure probably also contains your video RAM. How much RAM does your video card have ? Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-11 Thread Nejko Zidarjev
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 at 14:02:44, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:50:54PM +0200, J. Zidar wrote: > > BTW: Is it normal that XFree86 uses 280 megs of ram? > > Maybe. That figure probably also contains your video RAM. How much RAM > does your video card have ? > > Frank > > > -

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-11 Thread Antony Gelberg
J. Zidar wrote: > Hello. I have a very peculiar problem with my Debian install. > > It seems to me that Debian is not using my ram at all, because I can > hear and see a lot of disk activity happening, which could only mean > that the system is using the swap partition (size 2GB). Or it could mean