Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread eben
On 8/2/24 09:11, DdB wrote: If all you have is swap space or outdated crap, then back it up and do whatever you like. GPT is no must, if the disk is below 2TB in size and UEFI no option. If you have >4 partitions, then except for booting and recalcitrant OS installers, GPT is easier to deal wi

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 19:34 schrieb Łukasz Kalamłacki: > If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: Oops, i should read more carefully ... idk, why complicate matters. the boot files for i386 are located here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/20230607+de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 19:34 schrieb Łukasz Kalamłacki: > If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: Oops, i should read more carefully ... idk, why complicate matters. the boot files for i386 are located here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/20230607+de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux On

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 18:48 schrieb Anssi Saari: > Richard Owlett writes: > >> I was hoping I could somehow tell grub to run an installer's ISO image. >> I think the posted links will lead me adequately. > > I have actually tried that. The ISO image needs a little special support > so that after the

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard Owlett writes: > I was hoping I could somehow tell grub to run an installer's ISO image. > I think the posted links will lead me adequately. I have actually tried that. The ISO image needs a little special support so that after the kernel has booted and initrd loaded, it needs to be able

Re: OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, Could you give as more information about these systems on which you wish to install Bookworm? Newer distribution of Linux has a lot bigger resources consumption that old one. I would like to get: RAM size, CPU type, HDD size. Bookworm requirements are available here: https://wiki.de

Re: OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 13:20 schrieb Richard Owlett: > They report "GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta3-5" Hey, that is good news! Apart from reading up on grub2 , you can also interrupt the boot menu and select a stanza, then press e to read it and event

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 14:34 schrieb Richard Owlett: > During initial installation of Debian Squeeze (or later) would I have > been explicitly asked to choose between MBR and GPT? I can't say, at that time, i was a stranger to debian. But ... i saw the installer deciding on its own, if not explicitly put

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:33 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make any practical difference to manual install? Not sure ab

OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/01/2024 01:56 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: [SNIP] I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make a

Re: Planned path

2024-08-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > > The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . DdB wrote: > Oh, grub-pc (a.k.a. grub1)? grub-pc is GRUB2 for Legacy PC-BIOS on x86. > I gotta confess: when i did join linux, there was grub1.98 Version 1.98, too, is already GRUB2. https://l

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:33 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make any practical difference to manual install? Not sure ab

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: > I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. > The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . > Should that make any practical difference to manual install? > > Not sure about gpt vs mbr. I have whate

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 01:56 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: In the phrase "to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually)", just what does "(or manually)" refer to? I am using all of the options listed below depending on circumstances. If you are clear about using

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: > In the phrase "to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually)", > just what does "(or manually)" refer to? I am using all of the options listed below depending on circumstances. If you are clear about using your hd to store an installer iso,

Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 08:38 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 03:35:38PM +0200, DdB wrote: i recommend installing from netinstall iso image using the hd-media files to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually). Description in the manual is a bit short, but you can ask me, if yo