Re: free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Martin T wrote: > for some reason, I do not see those partitions with gdisk: > http://i.imgur.com/4BlDQx7.jpg On the other hand, I'm also using older > version(0.8.5 vs 0.8.8) of gdisk than you.. Or is there some other > reason? No. If gdisk does not show any special boot partition then there is

Re: free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-11 Thread Martin T
Sven, for some reason, I do not see those partitions with gdisk: http://i.imgur.com/4BlDQx7.jpg On the other hand, I'm also using older version(0.8.5 vs 0.8.8) of gdisk than you.. Or is there some other reason? In addition, while your gdisk output says that you have 0B of free space, then I have 1

Re: free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Martin T wrote: > I see. Thanks! Are those "bios_grub" or "EFI system" partitions > located inside the GPT scheme, i.e. inside the first ~16KiB of the > disk and it is not seen with gdisk? In addition, if this small area > after the last partition is also for alignment purposes, then where is > t

Re: free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-11 Thread Martin T
Sven, I see. Thanks! Are those "bios_grub" or "EFI system" partitions located inside the GPT scheme, i.e. inside the first ~16KiB of the disk and it is not seen with gdisk? In addition, if this small area after the last partition is also for alignment purposes, then where is the backup GPT stored?

Re: free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Martin T wrote: > 2) Am I correct that boot loaders use their code on this area after > the primary GPT and before the first partition? No. Bootloaders store their code in a special "bios_grub" partition (type EF02) when using the CSM/BIOS boot mode or inside a EFI System partion when using EFI

free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-10 Thread Martin T
nInstaller should display the "FREE SPACE" area before the first partition also in case the MBR partition scheme is chosen? 2) Am I correct that boot loaders use their code on this area after the primary GPT and before the first partition? 3) Are the last 689 sectors after the last partition

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-11 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:38 AM, lee wrote: >> Wally Lepore writes: >> >> Thank you for putting up your questions in such a well made way! > > > I appreciate that. Takes me forever to reply to all posts because I > need to make sure my questions are 'somewhat' clear. :-)

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-11 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
ed through this section therefore I do not know what questions will arrive next. I don't want to mess this up. I will be installing debian-squeeze to its own hard disk (sdb) in a dual boot set-up. The installer ask you, if you want to keep your Win-installation. My partition scheme (that

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:43 AM, lee wrote: > Wally Lepore writes: > >> In order to be sure that Debian installs successfully, I also have a >> USB stick that has the required debian firmware files loaded in the >> event the debian installer asks for it during set-up. > > I needed that once and f

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:42 AM, lee wrote: > Wally Lepore writes: > >> I forgot to add this additional information. I am installing Debian >> netinst file titled: debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso (32 bit) > > Isn't it better to go 64bit and to use the life installer CD? It might > make more sense

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
wever, it's been a long time that I used IDE > disks, so I don't know for sure. Ok thank you. Lisi kindly explained this in detail earlier in this thread. >> My partition scheme (that I have not set-up yet and based somewhat on >> the above link) will be as follows: >>

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Oct 2012 at 17:24:16 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Brian wrote: > > > Nice planning. There is sufficient room on /. I'd do without the boot > > partition but it does no harm. > > I must use the boot partition. I will be dual booting windows and > debian

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 10 October 2012 09:41:28 Brian wrote: >> For the use you will put the OS to I'd stick to your plan. > > Sorry, Wally. I had obviously forgotten something you had said. My bad! no problem :-) Thank you wally -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
orking with file folders. Not an issue. Been doing this for years. :) Just not sure how the installer or partition manager knows where and how to place files when I set up any given partition scheme such as: example #1 /boot / /home swap example #2 / swap example #3 /boot / /user /temp Swap

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Brian wrote: > You will want to be sure you are partitioning the correct drive. Usually > it is easy to distinguish between them because the drive containing > Windows will probably have an NTFS filesystem on it. You should also > double-check what the drive design

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wayne Topa
On 10/10/2012 01:33 PM, Wally Lepore wrote: On 10/10/2012 03:22 AM, Wally Lepore wrote: Based on the above, can a directory/partition be named /usr/local ? and /var/mail ? I thought a directory can have only one name (i.e. /usr -or- /local -or- /var -or- /mail). On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/10/2012 07:33 PM, Wally Lepore wrote: > On 10/10/2012 03:22 AM, Wally Lepore wrote: >>> Based on the above, can a directory/partition be named /usr/local ? >>> and /var/mail ? I thought a directory can have only one name (i.e. >>> /usr -or- /local -or- /var -or- /mail). > > On Wed, Oct

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2012 23:41:40 Wally Lepore wrote: >> An interesting side note: Both identical drives are 'Enhanced IDE' >> drives (EIDE). However for some reason during the debian set-up, the >> installer identified them as SCSI drives and label

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Wally Lepore
On 10/10/2012 03:22 AM, Wally Lepore wrote: >> Based on the above, can a directory/partition be named /usr/local ? >> and /var/mail ? I thought a directory can have only one name (i.e. >> /usr -or- /local -or- /var -or- /mail). On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:17 AM, Linux-Fan wrote: > You can hav

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread lee
Lisi writes: > Wally, I really do think that you should just stop worrying and install. It > doesn't matter if you make mistakes, you can just reinstall. That's probably what he is trying to avoid. Having to re-install isn't really fun; it's a waste of time and shouldn't be needed, so why enc

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > space I have allocated to each partition? As you can see I have an 80 > gig drive (total) that I'm installing debian too. Should I leave some > 'free space' in the event I want to add another directory in the > future? Sooner or later, you might add more disks and then you

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > I have 1 gig of DDR RAM. Thus your suggesting I make the swap 2 gigs? > I do let my system hibernate. Also, if I set the swap to 2 gigs, then > the Appendix section 'C3' says, > > On some 32-bit architectures (m68k and PowerPC), the maximum size of a > swap partition is 2GB

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > In order to be sure that Debian installs successfully, I also have a > USB stick that has the required debian firmware files loaded in the > event the debian installer asks for it during set-up. I needed that once and found I had to unpack these drivers on the stick. With

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > I forgot to add this additional information. I am installing Debian > netinst file titled: debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso (32 bit) Isn't it better to go 64bit and to use the life installer CD? It might make more sense to go 64bit when you do programming. And I've seen Int

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread lee
;m at now) with no issues. That should be ok. However, it's been a long time that I used IDE disks, so I don't know for sure. > My partition scheme (that I have not set-up yet and based somewhat on > the above link) will be as follows: > > 1st Partition -- Boot Partition

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 09:41:28 Brian wrote: > For the use you will put the OS to I'd stick to your plan. Sorry, Wally. I had obviously forgotten something you had said. My bad! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Lisi
Hi, Wally! On Wednesday 10 October 2012 02:22:38 Wally Lepore wrote: > Based on the above, can a directory/partition be named  /usr/local  ? > and  /var/mail ? I thought a directory can have only one name (i.e. > /usr -or-  /local -or-  /var -or-  /mail). Directories usually have subdirectories.

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Brian
ailable directories such as: > dev, lib, opt, var, usr, sys --- etc. Please see the list of > additional directories: > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs02.html.en > > Question #3 please: > I am not sure if I need to include 'any' of these additional > directories

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-10 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 09 October 2012 23:41:40 Wally Lepore wrote: > An interesting side note: Both identical drives are 'Enhanced IDE' > drives (EIDE). However for some reason during the debian set-up, the > installer identified them as SCSI drives and labeled them as follows > > SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) -80.0 GB

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/10/2012 03:22 AM, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: >> The sizes look sane. >> 2*ram=swap If your machine hibernates, all the contents of ram goes to swap. >> 15GB / plenty of space. >> .5GB Boot partition. Safe enough, but every 3 months or so, check

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Wally Lepore
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: > The sizes look sane. > 2*ram=swap If your machine hibernates, all the contents of ram goes to swap. > 15GB / plenty of space. > .5GB Boot partition. Safe enough, but every 3 months or so, check capacity > with df -h as the drive can fill up wit

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Wally Lepore
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: > Wally, > looks like an ok partitioning scheme. Having /home on its own partition > means you can keep its contents even if you change the linux installed. > Personally, I don't use a /boot partition; I just use / and /home. Hi Wolf, Ok thanks.

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Wolf Halton
The sizes look sane. 2*ram=swap If your machine hibernates, all the contents of ram goes to swap. 15GB / plenty of space. .5GB Boot partition. Safe enough, but every 3 months or so, check capacity with df -h as the drive can fill up with old Linux images. The rest for home files makes sense as wel

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Wolf Halton
Wally, looks like an ok partitioning scheme. Having /home on its own partition means you can keep its contents even if you change the linux installed. Personally, I don't use a /boot partition; I just use / and /home. Wolf Halton http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On

Re: Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Wally Lepore
). Doing > so, will allow me to view a menu at start-up asking which operating > system I want to boot (Windows or Debian). This will be accomplished > by changing the boot order in my BIOS to boot the 2nd hard disk (sdb). > I already tested this procedure using two hard disks each with windo

Partition Scheme for installing Debian Squeeze

2012-10-09 Thread Wally Lepore
previously described, I successfully booted to the 2nd hard disk (sdb). This 2nd hard disk (sdb) is set to 'slave' on the same 40 pin ribbon cable as the 1st hard disk (sda). My partition scheme (that I have not set-up yet and based somewhat on the above link) will be as follows: 1st Par

Re: Securing Debian Manual: 3.2.1 Choose an intelligent partition scheme

2012-03-09 Thread Rares Aioanei
On 03/08/2012 04:37 PM, Stayvoid wrote: The one which suits your needs :p Could you point me to the guide that actually explains this? Every guide I read says something like: "do foo because foo is the right way." It doesn't make any sense. You're the only one who knows what you need. When you

Re: Securing Debian Manual: 3.2.1 Choose an intelligent partition scheme

2012-03-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 08 mar 12, 17:35:38, Stayvoid wrote: > > You really, really should read > > http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html first (this applies to all > > your other questions as well). > I read it some time ago. Well, maybe you should read it again. I'm not kidding, I've read it myself seve

Re: Securing Debian Manual: 3.2.1 Choose an intelligent partition scheme

2012-03-08 Thread Stayvoid
> The one which suits your needs :p Could you point me to the guide that actually explains this? Every guide I read says something like: "do foo because foo is the right way." It doesn't make any sense. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: Securing Debian Manual: 3.2.1 Choose an intelligent partition scheme

2012-03-08 Thread Stayvoid
> You really, really should read > http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html first (this applies to all > your other questions as well). I read it some time ago. Sorry for zillions of questions, but I really want to hear some thoughts on these topics. The guide is outdated and I hope it'll hel

Re: Securing Debian Manual: 3.2.1 Choose an intelligent partition scheme

2012-03-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 08 mar 12, 16:49:15, Stayvoid wrote: > > What partition scheme is the best for a VPS (MTA + web server)? The one which suits your needs :p (SCNR) You really, really should read http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html first (this applies to all your other questions as well).

Securing Debian Manual: 3.2.1 Choose an intelligent partition scheme

2012-03-08 Thread Stayvoid
Hello. What partition scheme is the best for a VPS (MTA + web server)? According to the guide [1] I should use something like this: /home /tmp /var/tmp/ /var /opt /var/mail [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html Cheers P.S. Sorry for those who already seen

Re: How to change default partition scheme in chroot sid

2004-10-05 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Once upon a time Henry Lenzi said... > > I am currently running Woody and I created a chrooted sid partition. > Here's my current partition scheme for sid: If sid is in a chroot, it does not have a partitioning scheme. It lives on the filesystem on which woody was installed.

How to change default partition scheme in chroot sid

2004-10-05 Thread Henry Lenzi
Hello -- I am currently running Woody and I created a chrooted sid partition. Here's my current partition scheme for sid: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 4806080 4711892 0 100% / /dev/hda5 38445841

Re: Partition Scheme

2002-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 16, 2002, David Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I am installing Debian 3.0 Woody on a new machine with a 80GB hard drive and > 512MB of RAM. It will be used as a workstation. I have read the > installation manual, but still have questions about partitioning the disk. > Minimum v

Re: Partition Scheme

2002-09-17 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 03:49, David Sanders wrote: > I am installing Debian 3.0 Woody on a new machine with a 80GB hard drive and > 512MB of RAM. It will be used as a workstation. I have read the > installation manual, but still have questions about partitioning the disk. > Minimum values are usu

Re: Partition Scheme

2002-09-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
Craig had good post... On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 09:49:38PM -0400, David Sanders wrote: > I am installing Debian 3.0 Woody on a new machine with a 80GB hard drive and > 512MB of RAM. It will be used as a workstation. I have read the > installation manual, but still have questions about partitioni