On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:41:05PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've looked thru "man apt.conf", "man apt_preferences" and "man
> > apt-get", but don't see any way to disable this.
>
> I use aptitude exclusively, and I've n
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:27:15PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-04-15 18:43 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> >> It is true that sid users should generally check out for grave bugs and
> >> security issues of packages
On 2008-04-15 18:43 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> It is true that sid users should generally check out for grave bugs and
>> security issues of packages they want to install, but the same holds for
>> testing. After all, bug
we really need to conflate this thread with the sidux one...
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-04-15 01:47 +0200, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote:
> >
> >> comix - The version in Testing had security prob
On 2008-04-15 01:47 +0200, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote:
>
>> comix - The version in Testing had security problems, so it was
>> removed automatically (however, the insecure version stayed in
>> Unstable). Almost a month later a fixed version wa
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 07:01:55PM -0700, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But if an app is removed from a repository, apt won't tell you.
> > deborphan might, though.
>
> Understood so far.
>
> But th
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:54:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> That's the difference between libraries and apps. An app will be
> removed if the dependent libraries are removed (by user or Debian),
> and libraries will be flagged for removal if the *user* removes th
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:41:05PM -0700, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've looked thru "man apt.conf", "man apt_preferences" and "man
> > apt-get", but don't see any way to disable this.
>
> I use
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:44:46PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > have you compared the options used in /etc/apt/apt.conf* with the
> > possible ones in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz ?
>
> I haven't yet looked there unti
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:41:05PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> I use aptitude exclusively, and I've never managed to get it to pull
> in recommended packages.
> And while I'm here, what is this "Unsupported proxy: false" when doing
> a dist-upgrade?
have you compared the options used in /etc/apt/apt
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 07:01:55PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But if an app is removed from a repository, apt won't tell you.
> > deborphan might, though.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ deborphan xmms
> xmms
> And aptitude why-
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But if an app is removed from a repository, apt won't tell you.
> deborphan might, though.
Understood so far.
But this isn't very helpful:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ deborphan xmms
xmms
And aptitude why-not xmms doesn't sa
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On 04/14/08 20:31, David Fox wrote:
> Oops, I meant that to go to the list, sorry David.
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi list.
> >
> > Something I've noticed with Testing/Lenny is that packages often
>
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've looked thru "man apt.conf", "man apt_preferences" and "man
> apt-get", but don't see any way to disable this.
I use aptitude exclusively, and I've never managed to get it to pull
in recommended packages. I basically g
Oops, I meant that to go to the list, sorry David.
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list.
>
> Something I've noticed with Testing/Lenny is that packages often
> disappear for a short period (a few days or weeks) and then reappear.
> A few current exam
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote:
> comix - The version in Testing had security problems, so it was
> removed automatically (however, the insecure version stayed in
> Unstable). Almost a month later a fixed version was uploaded to stable
> and 10 days later it moved to Testin
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote:
> Hi again list, and thanks for the replies.
>
> My PC survived the upgrade to Unstable and actually has fewer problems
> than I did with Testing (besides a few xorg.conf and nvidia-xconfig
> issues, and 2 gtk libraries being held back due to
On 2008-04-14 22:02 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/14/08 12:54, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2008-04-14 19:24 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Since when does apt-get automatically pull in recommended packages?
>>> Quite frequently I see it recommend packages, but not automatically
>>> pull them
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On 04/14/08 12:54, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-04-14 19:24 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> Since when does apt-get automatically pull in recommended packages?
>> Quite frequently I see it recommend packages, but not automatically
>> pull them in.
>
Hi again list, and thanks for the replies.
My PC survived the upgrade to Unstable and actually has fewer problems
than I did with Testing (besides a few xorg.conf and nvidia-xconfig
issues, and 2 gtk libraries being held back due to dependancy
problems).
A follow-up for those packages I mentioned
On 2008-04-14 19:24 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Since when does apt-get automatically pull in recommended packages?
> Quite frequently I see it recommend packages, but not automatically
> pull them in.
It does so by default since apt 0.7.7, October 2007.
Sven
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On 04/14/08 12:06, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-04-14 18:32 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> On 04/14/08 10:56, Sven Joachim wrote:
>>> You know that all these packages are just recommendations and you do not
>>> need to install all (not even any) of t
On 2008-04-14 18:32 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/14/08 10:56, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> You know that all these packages are just recommendations and you do not
>> need to install all (not even any) of them?
>
> Maybe there's an ambiguity in what "*will* be installed" means?
Probably not; if yo
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On 04/14/08 10:56, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-04-14 17:28 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> On 04/14/08 10:15, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>>> There is also a command called grep-excuses which might be useful. See its
>>> man page for more info.
>>>
On 2008-04-14 17:28 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/14/08 10:15, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>> There is also a command called grep-excuses which might be useful. See its
>> man page for more info.
>>
>> $grep-excuses nvidia-graphics-drivers
>
> This seems to be a great tool. Too bad it wants
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On 04/14/08 10:15, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
[snip]
>
>
> There is also a command called grep-excuses which might be useful. See its
> man page for more info.
>
> $grep-excuses nvidia-graphics-drivers
This seems to be a great tool. Too bad it w
David wrote:
> Something I've noticed with Testing/Lenny is that packages often
> disappear for a short period (a few days or weeks) and then reappear.
> A few current examples: xmms and nvidia-glx. If you look on
> packages.debian.org they are in unstable and stable, but not testing.
> comix was
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:40:33AM +0200, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
to say:
> Hi and thanks for your reply.
>
> >
> > I'm not an expert, but I think that packages in testing are just that -
> > under test. Not just the individual packages, but also how they fit in
> > with other pac
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:40:33AM +0200, David wrote:
> I'll dist-upgrade my desktop from Testing to Unstable (crosses
> fingers), install the missing packages, and then track (dist-upgrade
> every few weeks) Testing again.
You might also consider having both testing and unstable in
/etc/apt/sour
Hi and thanks for your reply.
>
> I'm not an expert, but I think that packages in testing are just that -
> under test. Not just the individual packages, but also how they fit in
> with other packages. I imagine these packages were removed for a good
> reason. Again, I'm not sure about all
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:35:13 +0200, David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Something I've noticed with Testing/Lenny is that packages often
> disappear for a short period (a few days or weeks) and then reappear.
> A few current examples: xmms and nvidia-glx. If you look on
> packages.debian.org t
Hi list.
Something I've noticed with Testing/Lenny is that packages often
disappear for a short period (a few days or weeks) and then reappear.
A few current examples: xmms and nvidia-glx. If you look on
packages.debian.org they are in unstable and stable, but not testing.
comix was also gone for
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