Re: no package management tool

2025-02-23 Thread Yassine Chaouche
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:27:31 +0100 Yassine Chaouche wrote: [...]>>> I don't see how the manufacturer could profit from this? [...] The upside for end users is that it can improve performance (and/or leave more room for other things), the upside for the company is that they may be able to use a

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
Charles Curley [2025-02-20 14:12:10] wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:27:31 +0100 > Yassine Chaouche wrote: >> >> in order to close as many security holes as possible, >> > Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 馃檪 >> That was my honest opinion but now I feel gullible :) >> I don't see

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread John Hasler
Charles Curley writes: > Spyware? Snoopware? A back door to allow hostile crackers to bypass the > router's security? > All of which would be hard to detect, and not allowing the user to add > anything would help disguise such shenanigans. I doubt that anyone seriously looking for such shenanigan

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:27:31 +0100 Yassine Chaouche wrote: > >> in order to close as many security holes as possible, > > > > Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 馃檪 > > That was my honest opinion but now I feel gullible :) > I don't see how the manufacturer could profit from thi

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread John Hasler
Most likely they simply removed everything not necessary for the thing to run in order to minimize memory requirements and gave it no more thought than that. They would see no reason that any end user would ever need any of those tools. To them it's an appliance, not a computer. -- John Hasler

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 2/20/25 脿 16:13, Stefan Monnier a 茅crit聽: I can only imagine the manufacturer wants the installation to be minimal [...] in order to close as many security holes as possible, Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 馃檪 That was my honest opinion but now I feel gullible :) I don't se

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I can only imagine the manufacturer wants the installation to be minimal Agreed. > in order to close as many security holes as possible, Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 馃檪 Stefan

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 2/20/25 脿 05:40, tim wade a 茅crit聽: Hello I have logged in a router system which is linux. The provider said it's based on debian OS. [...] Hi Tim! Out of curiosity, did you check any of the /etc/ files for the distro name? I use this alias: $ sys.distro Debian GNU/Linux 12 \n \l

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 12:40:07 +0800 tim wade wrote: > I have logged in a router system which is linux. > The provider said it's based on debian OS. > > But there is not any package tool in it. > > root@myd-lt527:/# apt > -bash: apt: command not found > root@myd-lt527:/# I take it you didn't fin

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-19 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:47鈥疨M tim wade wrote: > Hello > > I have logged in a router system which is linux. > The provider said it's based on debian OS. > If it is Linux running on a router then it is probably embedded Linux. > > But there is not any package tool in it. > > root@myd-lt527:/#

no package management tool

2025-02-19 Thread tim wade
Hello I have logged in a router system which is linux. The provider said it's based on debian OS. But there is not any package tool in it. root@myd-lt527:/# apt -bash: apt: command not found root@myd-lt527:/# root@myd-lt527:/# dpkg -bash: dpkg: command not found root@myd-lt527:/# root@myd-lt527

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Urs Thuermann wrote: > "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > > > Raspbian _isn't_ Debian. Wolfram-engine is a third party (commercial) app - > > Wolfram Mathematica which the Raspberry Pi foundation licences with a > > special educational arrangement. > > > > You might be able to force a reinstall of

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 05:26:21PM +0100, Urs Thuermann wrote: > Yes, and my question should be about dpkg & friends how to get out of > that state where a single corrupted package blocks everything. Use dpkg to purge it. With force if needed. dpkg --force-help

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Urs Thuermann
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > Raspbian _isn't_ Debian. Wolfram-engine is a third party (commercial) app - > Wolfram Mathematica which the Raspberry Pi foundation licences with a > special educational arrangement. > > You might be able to force a reinstall of wolfram-engine to produce > somethin

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread David Wright
t; /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 72. > Unescaped left brace in regex is deprecated, passed through in regex; > marked by <-- HERE in m/\${ <-- HERE ([^}]+)}/ at > /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 30. > dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: > files list file for package 'wolfram-engine' contains empty filename > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) > Failed to perform requested operation on package. Trying to recover: > > root@uranus:~# > > What else can I do to get the package management working again? Cheers, David.

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Urs Thuermann
Richard Hector writes: > Firstly, the standard response is that Raspbian is not Debian :-) > There are differences which might be related to your problem. Yes, of course. I know. But my question was not about the Raspbian specific packages but on apt, dpkg, aptitude & co. I assume, these work

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
ped left brace in regex is deprecated, passed through in regex; > > marked by <-- HERE in m/\${ <-- HERE ([^}]+)}/ at > > /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 30. > > dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: > > files list file for package 'wolfra

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Richard Hector
the same thing. root@uranus:~# What else can I do to get the package management working again? I'd try deleting any blank lines from that file, and trying again. Or maybe apt-get install --reinstall wolfram-engine Or ask on a Raspbian list :-) A related question here: htt

Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Urs Thuermann
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) Failed to perform requested operation on package. Trying to recover: root@uranus:~# What else can I do to get the package management working again? urs

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 16:59:25 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 04:49:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > Interesting blog, but falls face first in its morning oatmeal > > because the local insulation is not perfect [...] nominally .0001 > > degrees above absolute zer

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 04:49:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Interesting blog, but falls face first in its morning oatmeal because the > local insulation is not perfect [...] nominally .0001 degrees above > absolute zero [...] Trying to picture oatmeal at 1e-4 Kelvin, I think I give up

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 16:19:15 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 07:43:32PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > On reflection, a typo in a command may have consequences, unlike > > mispeling Debain. So I accept the criticism is not bad form. > > OTOH, having command names which on

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 07:43:32PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > On reflection, a typo in a command may have consequences, unlike > mispeling Debain. So I accept the criticism is not bad form. OTOH, having command names which only differ in letter case is somewhat... evil? > Meanwhile, I am tryin

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jul 2020 at 11:06:42 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 09:23:26 +0200 > wrote: > > > > > [...] (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know > > > > that, and it's bad form to harp on it.) > > > > > > But, for want of a better response, you could not resist comme

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 09:23:26 +0200 wrote: > > > [...] (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know > > > that, and it's bad form to harp on it.) > > > > But, for want of a better response, you could not resist commenting > > on the typo. As you say - bad form. :) > > Still possibly usef

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, July 03, 2020 10:34:19 AM David Wright wrote: > Have you tried out your suggestion? I guess you're talking to me, and the answer is no, I haven't. And I have read the rest of your email. When I first came to Linux, the way I decided on my initial distro (which, iirc, was Mandrake, b

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread John Hasler
Babu writes: > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name Apt-get install > multimedia Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : > gstremer ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc.. Please guide me how to do Type apt-cache --names-only search multimedia | less and look through

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 03 Jul 2020 at 06:37:07 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, July 03, 2020 06:18:04 AM l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > 2 juil. 2020 脿 21:37 de baab...@gmail.com: > > > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name > > > > > > Apt-get install multimedia > > > Multimedia need hav

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread didier . gaumet
d directory) whose name contains the your_criteria string. this searching operation is similar to the apt-cache search one, whose manpage is here: https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-cache Ypu will find additional information regarding Debian package management here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manua

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, July 03, 2020 06:18:04 AM l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Considering the answers you've got so far, I have nothing better to suggest > but a single question because you've intrigued me ;) => Do you mind > sharing a practical use case of such a request please? > > Indeed, from my side, even if

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 2 juil. 2020 脿 21:37 de baab...@gmail.com: > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name聽 > > Apt-get install multimedia > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc.. > > Please guide me how to do聽 > Considering the answers you've go

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread didier . gaumet
Hello There are metapackages (groups of packages) in Debian. I am not aware a a global multimedia Debian metapackage There are some multimedia metapackages, though: $ apt search multimedia- [...] multimedia-ambisonics/stable 0.7 all Packages for working with ambisonics (3D surround sound) m

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:54:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 16:11:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > > Is 'Apt-get install multimedia' a valid command? > > > > [...] (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know > > that, and it's bad form to harp on it.) > > But, f

Re: Package management

2020-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 16:11:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 09:06:26PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 15:50:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote: > > > > Hello debain organization > > > >

Re: Package management

2020-07-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/07/2020 20:37, Baabu JOY wrote: > Hello debain organization > 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 I'm babu. > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name聽 > > Apt-get install multimedia > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc.. > > > > Please

Re: Package management

2020-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 15:50:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote: > > Hello debain organization > > I'm babu. > > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name > > > > Apt-get install multimedia > > Multimedia

Re: Package management

2020-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 09:06:26PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 15:50:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote: > > > Hello debain organization > > > I'm babu. > > > Im trying to install all Deb files thro

Re: Package management

2020-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote: > Hello debain organization > I'm babu. > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name > > Apt-get install multimedia > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc

Package management

2020-07-02 Thread Baabu JOY
Hello debain organization I'm babu. Im trying to install all Deb files through single name Apt-get install multimedia Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc.. Please guide me how to do Thanks and warm regards Babu

Re: Bringing CPAN,Gems, PIP, PyPi, etc. under APT package management

2020-03-02 Thread Dan Ritter
songbird wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > Many of the language-specific tools have a tendency to > > automatically acquire the latest version of a library or module > > every time they are invoked, or to spit errors if they can't > > pull down the version that they were asked to get. That's ra

Re: Bringing CPAN,Gems, PIP, PyPi, etc. under APT package management

2020-03-01 Thread songbird
Dan Ritter wrote: ... > There are good reasons for doing this on a local basis. sure, and nothing prevents that from being accomplished. it isn't like the tools would go away. > For example, let's say you have an organization that develops > a software service and sells access to it. When an e

Re: Bringing CPAN,Gems, PIP, PyPi, etc. under APT package management

2020-02-29 Thread Dan Ritter
> I realize that software has been installed outside of APT's purview > > since the beginnings of Debian, but I wonder if there is any effort to > > corral these other packaging systems so APT can be the tool of choice > > for all package management. > > no, and i s

Re: Bringing CPAN,Gems, PIP, PyPi, etc. under APT package management

2020-02-29 Thread songbird
alled outside of APT's purview > since the beginnings of Debian, but I wonder if there is any effort to > corral these other packaging systems so APT can be the tool of choice > for all package management. no, and i sure hope not! do you know how many packages are in those? PyPI is

Re: Bringing CPAN,Gems, PIP, PyPi, etc. under APT package management

2020-02-29 Thread Reco
ging systems so APT can be the tool of choice > for all package management. As long as language library (module, gem, whatever) is needed to satisfy a dependency - it usually enters Debian main. Reco

Bringing CPAN,Gems, PIP, PyPi, etc. under APT package management

2020-02-29 Thread Keith Christian
ngs of Debian, but I wonder if there is any effort to corral these other packaging systems so APT can be the tool of choice for all package management.

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-01-03 9:18 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: >>> emerge --pretend -vuDN world >>> results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies >>> that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I >>> usually wait until newly available updates have been

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Pol Hallen
#!/bin/sh # At least once a day update the index package lists and download # pending upgrades. { apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y } 2>&1 | mailx -s "apt download output" root exit 0 cool! thanks Pol

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 01/14/2014 12:05 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-03 9:18 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: emerge --pretend -vuDN world results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates ha

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-03 9:18 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: emerge --pretend -vuDN world results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates have been available for at least a few days

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-07 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-01-05 01:43, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: >>> The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to >>> installed. >> >> i.e., if you

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 04:29:59PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && > apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y > > > > Some fun details that may spark some ideas... Wow!

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: > > The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed. > > i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you > what it is going to install before doing it

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 09:50:59AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 17:21:40 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > > > > > > You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also > > > available on the web at

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 17:21:40 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > > > > You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also > > available on the web at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/. > > It looks

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-01-03 14:44 keltez茅ssel, Tanstaafl 铆rta: > In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are > available, so a process like: > > eix-sync > to synchronizes the local repo with the online one > > eix packagename > shows all available versions of that package, and what rep

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Sven Hartge
John Hasler wrote: > Sven Hartge writes: >> Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely >> get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security >> updates and major bug fixes via point releases about every two >> months: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleas

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > Tanstaafl writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > ... > > Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: > > eix packagename > > shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they > > reside in (stable, testing, etc) > >apt-cache Typo: apt-cache show > and >apt-cache policy > > > emerge --pretend -vuDN world > > results in a list of all avai

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: > The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed. i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you what it is going to install before doing it anyway. You need the -s for one package, because if you have only a

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Harry Putnam
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: >> emerge --pretend -vuDN world Welcome to another former gentoo hand. If you have X running: I'm pretty sure, though have never used it, that there is a little tool on you desktop menus somewhere. With a name like `Software updates', probably under system tools or

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Carl Johnson
Tanstaafl writes: > Hello all, > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. ... > Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this? You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also availab

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 08:44:49AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hello all, > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > > I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. > What I'm looking for is the equivalent co

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
tasks like this? apt-get(8) and apt-cache(8). "The Debian System, Concepts and Techniques" by Martin Krafft, (http://debiansystem.info/) to be a pretty good reference to how things are organized in Debian. Probably the most comprehensive writeup on Debian package management that I&#x

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Sven Hartge writes: > Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get > any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates > and major bug fixes via point releases about every two months: > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases Don't wai

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > > eix-sync > to synchronizes the local repo with the online one apt-get update > eix packagename > shows all available version

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Tanstaafl wrote: > In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are > available, so a process like: Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates and major bug fixes via point

New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. What I'm looking for is the equivalent commands in debian to achieve the same things. In gentoo, I routinel

Re: Mozilla Firefox installed without package-management

2012-04-14 Thread Camale贸n
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:49:07 +0200, Andreas Glaeser wrote: > Everyone who wants or needs improved HTML5-support can download Mozilla > Firefox webbrowser here: > http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html You get improved > rendering-speed, the optional 'do not track' feature and more for free.

Re: Mozilla Firefox installed without package-management

2012-04-14 Thread Mika Suomalainen
14.04.2012 07:49, Andreas Glaeser kirjoitti: > Everyone who wants or needs improved HTML5-support can download Mozilla > Firefox > webbrowser here: > http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html > You get improved rendering-speed, the optional 'do not track' feature and > more for > free. > Inst

Mozilla Firefox installed without package-management

2012-04-13 Thread Andreas Glaeser
Everyone who wants or needs improved HTML5-support can download Mozilla Firefox webbrowser here: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html You get improved rendering-speed, the optional 'do not track' feature and more for free. Installation instructions are here: http://support.mozilla.org/en-

Re: Nonstandard .deb package management/apt problem: create archive with updateable packages for system not connected to internet

2012-01-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/01/12 02:12, Fiedler Roman wrote: > Hello List, > > Perhaps someone might know a solution or at least where to start searching > for a solution by myself. The problem: > > A system isolated from internet should receive standard distribution package > updates. Since the system cannot fetch

AW: Nonstandard .deb package management/apt problem: create archive with updateable packages for system not connected to internet

2012-01-12 Thread Fiedler Roman
> -Urspr眉ngliche Nachricht- > Von: "Karl E. J酶rgensen" [mailto:karl.jorgen...@nice.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2012 16:23 > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Re: Nonstandard .deb package management/apt problem: create > archive with update

Re: Nonstandard .deb package management/apt problem: create archive with updateable packages for system not connected to internet

2012-01-12 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello, On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 04:12:40PM +0100, Fiedler Roman wrote: > [...] > A system isolated from internet should receive standard distribution > package updates. Since the system cannot fetch the packages from > public repositories or internal mirrors, some way to create an archive > with al

Re: Nonstandard .deb package management/apt problem: create archive with updateable packages for system not connected to internet

2012-01-12 Thread Karl E. J酶rgensen
On 12/01/12 15:12, Fiedler Roman wrote: Hello List, Perhaps someone might know a solution or at least where to start searching for a solution by myself. The problem: A system isolated from internet should receive standard distribution package updates. Since the system cannot fetch the packag

Nonstandard .deb package management/apt problem: create archive with updateable packages for system not connected to internet

2012-01-12 Thread Fiedler Roman
Hello List, Perhaps someone might know a solution or at least where to start searching for a solution by myself. The problem: A system isolated from internet should receive standard distribution package updates. Since the system cannot fetch the packages from public repositories or internal mi

Re: package management help

2011-10-17 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:07:10 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/16/2011 5:02 AM, Camale贸n wrote: > > > Which is fine. What problem are you seeing here? > > > > "php5" is a metapackage that requires to install *one of these* packages: > > > > a) libapache2-mod-php5 (or) > > b) libapache2-mod-ph

Re: package management help

2011-10-17 Thread Brian
On Sun 16 Oct 2011 at 22:23:59 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > I'm no package management expert. I only install packages when I need > new capabilities, or when doing security updates. I discovered during > this apache2 troubleshooting that I had 1.6GB of .deb files in the apt >

Re: package management help

2011-10-17 Thread Camale贸n
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:07:10 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/16/2011 5:02 AM, Camale贸n wrote: (...) >> No need to be a jedi, just put care in what the installer is telling >> you. >> >> When you run apt-get or aptitude to install "roundcube-core" and you >> see a set of packages named "apac

Re: package management help

2011-10-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/16/2011 5:02 AM, Camale贸n wrote: > Which is fine. What problem are you seeing here? > > "php5" is a metapackage that requires to install *one of these* packages: > > a) libapache2-mod-php5 (or) > b) libapache2-mod-php5filter (or) > c) php5-cgi > > You only have to do the right selection b

Re: package management help

2011-10-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
; deals with it. Thanks Brian. They're now toast. Possibly worth noting here is that I only use Debian on headless servers. I'm no package management expert. I only install packages when I need new capabilities, or when doing security updates. I discovered during this apache2 tro

Re: package management help

2011-10-16 Thread J枚rg-Volker Peetz
Stan Hoeppner wrote, on 10/16/11 05:00: > Moving forward... I removed all of the apache2 junk with > '--purge-unused', ran aptitude update and aptitude safe-upgrade, and > none of the apache2 junk shows up in the upgrade list, which was the > original immediate goal here. I've probably got more c

Re: package management help

2011-10-16 Thread Camale贸n
sons I prefer to avoid metapackages, you have to >> care what they estimate is more appropiate for you and do not always >> hit. > > So if roundcube-core depends on the php5 metapackage Camale贸n, how > exactly could I avoid installing said metapackage when I installed > rou

Re: package management help

2011-10-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Oct 2011 at 22:00:19 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > ~$ dpkg -l|grep -i apache > rc apache2.2-common > rc libapache2-mod-php5 > rc libapr1 > rc libaprutil1 > > What does the 'rc' mean? The others are apparently completely removed > now, but these 4 still show up. Is there something

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
pache2 is too bloated for my needs so I went with lighty years ago. Oh, the irony... > That's one of the reasons I prefer to avoid metapackages, you have to > care what they estimate is more appropiate for you and do not always hit. So if roundcube-core depends on the php5 metapackage Camal

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread J枚rg-Volker Peetz
Stan Hoeppner wrote, on 10/15/11 13:16: > On 10/15/2011 3:56 AM, J枚rg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> I would try the following: >> >> - to find out what is installed >> aptitude search '~iapache' > > i apache2-mpm-prefork > i apache2-utils > i apache2.2-bin > i apache2.2-common > i libapache

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Camale贸n
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:51:15 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 15 Oct 2011 at 11:21:30 +, Camale贸n wrote: > >> There you have it. >> >> "libapache2-mod-php5" depends (requires) "apache2-mpm-prefork" and also >> "apache2.2-common". >> >> Now you have to find out why "libapache2-mod-php5" got inst

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Oct 2011 at 11:21:30 +, Camale贸n wrote: > There you have it. > > "libapache2-mod-php5" depends (requires) "apache2-mpm-prefork" and also > "apache2.2-common". > > Now you have to find out why "libapache2-mod-php5" got installed in your > system because it's an Apache 2 module. T

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Camale贸n
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:45:11 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: (...) > So, if I'm reading this correctly, and these aren't phantom > dependencies, if one wishes to run php5 with lighttpd, one has to have > all of apache2 installed also? Is that correct? That seems strange to > have one httpd so entir

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Claudius Hubig
Stan Hoeppner wrote: >~$ aptitude why apache2 >i phpsysinfo Depends apache2 | httpd > >phpsysinfo seems to have a false dependency--appears the package >maintainer assumes the only httpd server on earth is apache2... This shows that the phpsysinfo dependency is also fulfilled by httpd, which is

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/15/2011 4:00 AM, Bernd Semler wrote: > aptitude why $packagename ~$ aptitude why apache2 --show-summary Packages requiring apache2: phpsysinfo > and/or in combination with --show-summary (there is an example in the > man page). > > Another proposal is: > > apt-cache rdepends $package

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/15/2011 3:56 AM, J枚rg-Volker Peetz wrote: > I would try the following: > > - to find out what is installed > aptitude search '~iapache' i apache2-mpm-prefork i apache2-utils i apache2.2-bin i apache2.2-common i libapache2-mod-php5 > - why it is installed > aptitude why ap

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Camale贸n
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:06:48 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/15/2011 4:40 AM, Camale贸n wrote: > >> What does "dpkg -l|grep -i apache" say? > (...) > ii libapache2-mod-php55.3.3-7+squeeze3 (...) There you have it. "libapache2-mod-php5" depends (requires) "apache2-mpm-pref

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/15/2011 4:40 AM, Camale贸n wrote: > What does "dpkg -l|grep -i apache" say? ii apache2-mpm-prefork2.2.16-6+squeeze1 ii apache2-utils 2.2.16-6+squeeze1 ii apache2.2-bin 2.2.16-6+squeeze1 ii apache2.2-common 2.2.16

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Camale贸n
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:53:55 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Symptoms: > I've never used apache2 on the machine in question. I use lighttpd. > "aptitude show apache2" tells me apache2 is not installed. > > Package: apache2 > State: not installed (...) > The problem: > ~$ aptitude safe-upgrade >

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread Bernd Semler
Stan Hoeppner schrieb am 14.10.2011 23:53 -0500: > The problem: > ~$ aptitude safe-upgrade > Resolving dependencies... > The following packages will be upgraded: > apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common > > This has gone on for many years, including when the system

Re: package management help

2011-10-15 Thread J枚rg-Volker Peetz
I would try the following: - to find out what is installed aptitude search '~iapache' - why it is installed aptitude why apache2-mpm-worker maybe this one is only recommended by another package - and what depends on this package aptitude search '~i~Dapache2-mpm-worker' - finally,

package management help

2011-10-14 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Symptoms: I've never used apache2 on the machine in question. I use lighttpd. "aptitude show apache2" tells me apache2 is not installed. Package: apache2 State: not installed Version: 2.2.16-6+squeeze4 Priority: optional Section: httpd Maintainer: Debian Apache Maintainers Uncompressed Size: 36.

Re: Looking for a package management GUI in KDE

2011-08-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:09:10 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: Hello Nico, > Because you left Synaptic running on an X session, went home,and would > like to install or change something or let the nightly updates run. Or > because you're running a local setup script, or nightly update tool. Ah, I

Re: Looking for a package management GUI in KDE

2011-08-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:56:57 -0400 > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > Hello Nico, > >> Synaptic is my friend. The only issue I've had with it is that, due to >> locking, I cannot run "apt-get" command line simultaneously from >> another window. Bu

Re: Looking for a package management GUI in KDE

2011-08-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:56:57 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: Hello Nico, > Synaptic is my friend. The only issue I've had with it is that, due to > locking, I cannot run "apt-get" command line simultaneously from > another window. But that's a small price to pay for such a well > developed GUI.

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