Re: Re (6): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-31 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:21:58 -0700, peasthope wrote: > From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?= Date: Mon, 30 Jan > 2012 19:48:09 +0100 >> Sorry if I bothered you. > > Slightly irked. No scars. > >> ... don't know who ... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth > http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re (6): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-30 Thread peasthope
From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?= Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:48:09 +0100 > Sorry if I bothered you. Slightly irked. No scars. > ... don't know who ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_%28programming_language%29 & etc. > ... or what company makes t

Re: Re (5): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-01-30 a las 09:52 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca escribió: (resending to the list) > From: Camaleon > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:41:58 + (UTC) > > A bug at the MUA, then? > > Yes. Does "http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail"; need more clarity? Sorry if I bothered you. I'm not famil

Re: Re(4): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:05:46 -0700, peasthope wrote: > From: Camaleon > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:31:35 + (UTC) >> So finally, what are you going to do or what are now your plans >> regarding your original issue? :-? > > It was fixed last Thursday, January 19 shortly after Aoki rminded me to

Re: What�s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:15:33AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote: > > Jon Dowland writes: > > > > > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > > > or mpop are options. > > > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? > > > > > > It's fine if it

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 24 Jan 2012, Johann Spies wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems > > authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to > > getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't re

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote: > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems > authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to > getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but > I've always used ge

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:47 AM, lee wrote: > Jon Dowland writes: > >> I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail >> or mpop are options. > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01476.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote: > Jon Dowland writes: > > > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > > or mpop are options. > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? > > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems authenticting myself to a mail server w

What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread lee
Jon Dowland writes: > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > or mpop are options. What´s wrong with fetchmail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archi

Re(4): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-23 Thread peasthope
* From: peasth...@shaw.ca * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:31:50 -0800 > (POP3 server run by Shaw ISP) - (My Linux router) - (MUA on Oberon > workstation). * From: Camaleón * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:46:22 + (UTC) > That's the most basic setup. Thanks! From: Andrei PO

Re(4): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-22 Thread peasthope
From: Camaleon Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:31:35 + (UTC) > So finally, what are you going to do or what are now your plans regarding > your original issue? :-? It was fixed last Thursday, January 19 shortly after Aoki rminded me to check with telnet. Documented in the second paragraph h

Re: Re(3): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 20 ian 12, 17:28:29, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > > Never been too bothered with spam. Shaw offers filtration > and I leave it off. I wonder whether definite spams are > caught by Shaw or further upstream. Do I.S.P.s ever routinely check > for it in outgoing mail. In my experience bot

Re: Re(3): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-21 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:28:29 -0800, peasthope wrote: > * From: Camaleón * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 > 21:46:22 + (UTC) >> I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't >> found a reference on what was your e-mail client :-? > > In "http://lists.debian.org/debia

Re: Re(3): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-21 Thread Joe
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:28:29 -0800 peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > > Never been too bothered with spam. Shaw offers filtration > and I leave it off. I wonder whether definite spams are > caught by Shaw or further upstream. If their SMTP servers are checking for proper DNS and using blacklists, th

Re(3): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread peasthope
* From: Camaleón * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:46:22 + (UTC) > I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't > found a reference on what was your e-mail client :-? In "http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01548.html"; the 4th non-empty line of the

Re: Re(2): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:31:50 -0800, peasthope wrote: > Camaleon, > > From: Camaleon > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:04 + (UTC) >> Which MUA? > > Refer to my message sent earlier today. Our messages crossed. I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't found a refe

Re(2): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread peasthope
Camaleon, From: Camaleon Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:04 + (UTC) > Which MUA? Refer to my message sent earlier today. Our messages crossed. > In your case, you can just reduce the full chain to: > POP3 server (remote site / isp server) ††' fetchmail ††' your $HOME mailbox > ††'

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > or mpop are options. What's wrong with Fetchmail? Works flawlessly for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:49:22 -0800, peasthope wrote: > Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages > with this appearing in the log. Which MUA? > --- POP > RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca > SND: USER peasthope > RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca > SND: PASS

POP3 compliance; was Re(3): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread peasthope
* From: Osamu Aoki * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:10:35 +0900 > The real question is who's bug is this. Oberon Mail (ejz) on PC Native 05.01.2003. Fixed and documented here. "http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail"; > If this is bug on Debian ... Definitely not. Debian was only

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: (...) > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail > or mpop are options. Long-time fetchmail user -and lover- here! (me, I mean...) :-) Can you please explain what motivates your above advice? Greetings, -- C

Re: Re(2): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:49:24AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > * From: Osamu Aoki > * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0900 > > Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well ... > > According to the Wikipedia, fetchmail can not deliver to mbox. Well by itself ... y

getmail replacing fetchmail (was: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-19 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hello again, * Martin Steigerwald wrote on 2012-01-19 at 19:28 (+0100): > Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > > On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > > Is this a general advice? If so, then why? > > > > Yes. > > > >

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > Is this a general advice? If so, then why? > > Yes. > > covers many > reasons. Holy smoke! Well that are enough reasons for me. OTOH it

Re(2): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread peasthope
* From: Osamu Aoki * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0900 > Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well ... According to the Wikipedia, fetchmail can not deliver to mbox. > Are you running that qpopper yourself? Not now. It was installed years ago before I learned to si

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: Is this a general advice? If so, then why? Yes. covers many reasons. Or is it your advice for the OP's aim to directly deliver messages to a mbox or maildir without exim and without running a

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Mathias Bauer
* Jon Dowland wrote on 2012-01-19 at 11:38 (+): > On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure > >whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it > >only supports maildir. > > Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well (Though I like the getmail4 package as being its maintainer.) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 01:49:22PM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive > messages with this appearing in t

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > > On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether > > > it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it onl

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: > On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it > > can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports > > maildir. > > Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inje

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends o

Re: Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 18 ian 12, 19:16:03, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > * From: Andrei Popescu > * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:06:16 +0200 > > Try having a look at your mail via some other > > means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create > > problems. > > Web access shows nothing u

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2012 schrieb peasth...@shaw.ca: > Failure in parsing "LIST 1" baffles. How big a problem can parsing of > 6 characters be? To understand further, I want a Debian system to > automatically retrieve messages from the POP3 server and put them in > /home/peter/mbox. Then qpop

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-19 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
If it has worked before, it could as well be a temporarily problem of your provider. By the way, here we're using pop3 encrypted via ssl (which nowadays every provider should have available) in order to protect the password from eavesdropping. -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-18 Thread peasthope
* From: Andrei Popescu * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:06:16 +0200 > Try having a look at your mail via some other > means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create > problems. Web access shows nothing unusual. Messages have come to the I.S.P. mailbox since the pr

Re: POP3 in Debian

2012-01-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 18 ian 12, 13:49:22, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive > messages with this appearing in the log. > --- POP > RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca > SND: USER peasthope > RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca > SND: PASS

POP3 in Debian

2012-01-18 Thread peasthope
Hi, Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages with this appearing in the log. --- POP RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca SND: USER peasthope RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca SND: PASS RCV: +OK server ready SND: UIDL RCV: +OK 35 messages SND: LIST 1 RCV: