On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 07:12:20PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
[...]
> sudo su - has one advantage: it gives you root's path and root's home
> directory - so you end up in /home/root or wherever root's
> home is set to. Otherwise, you end up, potentially, in the calling user's
> home direct
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 06:49:52PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 15:11 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > Tixy wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote
> > > > Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you
> > > > wastefully
> > > > running two programs
On 2020-10-23 19:01, Dan Ritter wrote:
I first used Linux in 1992, 13 or 14 months after Linus started
writing it. sudo was already 12 years old.
"Where do you want to go today" did it for me but I had such a lot of
trouble shifting head into gear. Never really managed.
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Tixy wrote:
>
> Thanks. Debian has su installed as part of a required package so I
> never bothered installing sudo, it just seemed to be an Ubuntu thing.
Robert Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer wrote the original subsystem
around 1980 at the Department of Computer Science at
SUNY/Buffalo. Robert Co
On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 15:11 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Tixy wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote
> > > Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you
> > > wastefully
> > > running two programs when you only need one.
> > It's useful (essential?) if you want
Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote
>> Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you wastefully
>> running two programs when you only need one.
> It's useful (essential?) if you want a root shell when there's no root
> password set like on Ubuntu (and o
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 01:30:11PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote
> [...]
> > Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you wastefully
> > running two programs when you only need one.
> [...]
>
> It's useful (essential?) if you want a root she
On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote
[...]
> Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you wastefully
> running two programs when you only need one.
[...]
It's useful (essential?) if you want a root shell when there's no root
password set like on Ubuntu (and optionally
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 12:15:24PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> Behaviour changed in Buster - su - is now required. [Likewise sudo su - if
> you use sudo]
That's silly. Just use "sudo -i" if you want a root login shell, or
"sudo -s" if you want a normal root shell (roughly equivalent to wha
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:41:07PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote:
>
> > PATH=/home/bob/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
>
> I examined su(1) and learned that one solution for me is to invoke su with
> the '-l' argument, which creates a 'login' s
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:41:07PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote:
>
> > PATH=/home/bob/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
>
> I examined su(1) and learned that one solution for me is to invoke su with
> the '-l' argument, which creates a 'login' s
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote:
PATH=/home/bob/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
I examined su(1) and learned that one solution for me is to
invoke su with the '-l' argument, which creates a 'login' shell
in the new env. This sets, for me, the PATH to
'/usr/local/sbin:/u
Here I've been sailing along blissfully unaware that when on
those rare occasions I execute su in a terminal, say to tweak my
exim4 config, that I had a pretty much useless PATH in the env
after su-ing:
PATH=/home/bob/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
So I could not, say, execute 's
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