On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 07:02:42AM +0500, Fritz Brown wrote:
> OK, everybody, THANKS! I finally got it installed without it asking me for
> all the extra packages (which is where the overwhelming part came in). Now,
> the only thing is I don't know how to start the GUI. I took most of the
> d
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 12:02:22PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> The best Debian reference manual is called "The Debian Reference Manual."
> It's
> free, and can be downloaded here in a variety of languages and formats:
>
> http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/
or apt-get install debi
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 08:09 am, Ed wrote:
> As a rather "newbie" myself, I suggest reading the docs, this list, and
> remember "Google is your friend". I normally let Debian install the
The best Debian reference manual is called "The Debian Reference Manual." It's
free, and can be downlo
As a rather "newbie" myself, I suggest reading the docs, this list, and
remember "Google is your friend". I normally let Debian install the
basics and then apt-get X and Gnome. I'm just a normal, everday desktop
user. Internet, email and a half dozen Ham Radio apps. I did not find
Debian diffic
Fritz Brown wrote:
>OK, everybody, THANKS! I finally got it installed without it asking me for
>all the extra packages (which is where the overwhelming part came in). Now,
>the only thing is I don't know how to start the GUI. I took most of the
>default settings (this is Woody, BTW - may try
- Original Message -
From: "Fritz Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Overwhelmed newbie
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:20:21 +0500
>
> Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
> laptop (Mobile AMD K
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:36:51PM +0500, Fritz Brown wrote:
> I have a copy of Knoppix (don't think it's the latest) that I am poking at to
> get a feel for Linux. I will have to try and find where to change the
> windows manager.
>
> Fritz Brown
>
If you press F2 or F3 at the boot prompt, y
Andy Streich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:51:20 -0400
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 05:16:32PM -0700, Andy Streich wrote:
> > On Friday 16 September 2005 12:55 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> > > > Most importan
>You could try Martin's book, The Debian System, which is highly rated,
although I haven't seen it. http://debiansystem.info. >Apart from
that, there's always the Debian Reference http://www.debian.org/doc,
which isn't perfect, but is probably the >closest online thing that
Debian has to a ma
Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I suppose it is. I consider it rude to reply to an on-list message via
> personal email.
It's not. That is how one responds when one feels the response does not
merit the public exposure of the list. That is the decision of the sender and
noone else.
Now, CCing
Angelo Bertolli wrote:
The repositories contain "Dillo" which loads up pretty fast--haven't
checked the memory usage though.
Not the browser most newbies are looking for, though.
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Oliver Lupton wrote:
Kent West wrote:
Once you have an Internet connection, you're good to go. Most
applications you want are available from the official Debian
repositories, and it's generally these versions you'll want to install,
especially as a newbie. Opera, however, not being "F"ree (alt
Kent West wrote:
Once you have an Internet connection, you're good to go. Most
applications you want are available from the official Debian
repositories, and it's generally these versions you'll want to install,
especially as a newbie. Opera, however, not being "F"ree (although it is
"f"ree), is
On (17/09/05 18:08), Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Taking your notes section by section:
>
> Desktop - take a look at the Install Guide. Is there anything in your
> notes that would be useful there?
> File /mail server - this could go into the Reference. See 3.4, 3.5, 9.6.
> LAPP - nothing like this
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (17/09/05 12:45), Antony Gelberg wrote:
My understanding is that Debian welcomes patches from anybody who can
improve the documentation situation on the www.debian.org. The Debian
Reference is a good start but could be so much better.
Perhaps those of you who have yo
On (17/09/05 12:45), Antony Gelberg wrote:
> My understanding is that Debian welcomes patches from anybody who can
> improve the documentation situation on the www.debian.org. The Debian
> Reference is a good start but could be so much better.
>
> Perhaps those of you who have your own howtos a
Steve Lamb wrote:
Katipo wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped on the 3 people
that are shoving him towards Firefox and Thunderbird.
I don't know if they are doing that.
Sure are.
It's far easier for a newbie to install from main, w
Steve Lamb wrote:
Antony Gelberg wrote:
See my previous post. He's trying to install Debian, let's help him
install Debian. However hard people think it is, choosing Desktop from
the dreaded tasksel gets most people on their way.
He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped
Steve Lamb wrote:
Antony Gelberg wrote:
I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on d-u
without a very good reason.
The amazingly simple install is a very good reason. Hell, I've used
Debian since the libc5 days and *I* preferred Ubuntu's setup to even Sarge's.
On lørdag 17 september 2005, 13:23, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > Oh, there is plenty of reason. Stable has its issues, as any other
> > complex software system.
>
> Ok, what reasons are there to get burnt by using stable? The point
> of stable is that it is very unlikely to burn a clueful user.
For
find very
little support for in the free software community. I think most
people will agree that we want to direct people to what is best for
them.
I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using
Debian for the last 9 months without the kind (and sometimes terse and
a
n the free software community. I think most people will
agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them.
I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using Debian for
the last 9 months without the kind (and sometimes terse and abrupt) help from
people on this list
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On fredag 16 september 2005, 21:09, Antony Gelberg wrote:
Please reply onlist.
Errr, well, I don't consider this an important topic for the list, and
it is also rather rude to respond to a off-list message on-list. Please
refrain from that in the future.
I suppose
Katipo wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
>> He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped on the 3 people
>> that are shoving him towards Firefox and Thunderbird.
> I don't know if they are doing that.
Sure are.
> It's far easier for a newbie to install from main, without having to
>
Steve Lamb wrote:
He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped on the 3 people
that are shoving him towards Firefox and Thunderbird.
I don't know if they are doing that.
It's far easier for a newbie to install from main, without having to
play around with their sources list st
Antony Gelberg wrote:
> See my previous post. He's trying to install Debian, let's help him
> install Debian. However hard people think it is, choosing Desktop from
> the dreaded tasksel gets most people on their way.
He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped on the 3 people
t
Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on d-u
> without a very good reason.
The amazingly simple install is a very good reason. Hell, I've used
Debian since the libc5 days and *I* preferred Ubuntu's setup to even Sarge's.
My one and only comp
Andy Streich wrote:
Would a few
months of using Ubuntu cause me to come running back to Debian? I have no
idea.
Yes, it would.
I started off with Libranet, but once you reach a certain point, the
specific configurations, the tailored /etc/apt/sources.list files, the
over abundance of
pport for in the free software community. I think most people will
agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them.
I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using Debian for
the last 9 months without the kind (and sometimes terse and abrupt) help from
peop
> > That kind of isolationism is something I think you will find very little
> > support for in the free software community. I think most people will
> > agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them.
>
> I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not hav
isolationism is something I think you will find very little
> > support for in the free software community. I think most people will
> > agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them.
>
> I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using Debian
t; support for in the free software community. I think most people will
> agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them.
I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using Debian for
the last 9 months without the kind (and sometimes terse and abrupt) help from
peo
On fredag 16 september 2005, 21:09, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Please reply onlist.
Errr, well, I don't consider this an important topic for the list, and
it is also rather rude to respond to a off-list message on-list. Please
refrain from that in the future.
> It's because if people use stable, t
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:26:19PM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote:
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On fredag 16 september 2005, 14:20, Fritz Brown wrote:
Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoro
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On fredag 16 september 2005, 20:26, you wrote:
I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on
d-u without a very good reason.
Why is that? I've seen many newbies burn themselves badly on trying to
maintain a full Debian install, and like this user
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:26:19PM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> >On fredag 16 september 2005, 14:20, Fritz Brown wrote:
> >>Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
> >>laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly
> >>overwhelmed
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On fredag 16 september 2005, 14:20, Fritz Brown wrote:
Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly
overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing!
Yeah, I can really see that. It
Angelo Bertolli wrote:
On that note, I found that Firefox and Thunderbird are a couple of
those programs that you don't want to use the Debian repository to
get. I don't know why but the Debian versions of Firefox and
Thunderbird don't allow me to install new themes or extensions.
Angelo
On fredag 16 september 2005, 14:20, Fritz Brown wrote:
> Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
> laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly
> overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing!
Yeah, I can really see that. It is huge, and not easy t
Angelo Bertolli wrote:
Kent West wrote:
Fritz Brown wrote:
, surf the internet (I have Opera for Linux ready to install),
Once you have an Internet connection, you're good to go. Most
applications you want are available from the official Debian
repositories, and it's generally these v
Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> On that note, I found that Firefox and Thunderbird are a couple of
> those programs that you don't want to use the Debian repository to
> get. I don't know why but the Debian versions of Firefox and
> Thunderbird don't allow me to install new themes or extensions.
Works
general guide, a couple well
placed guesses should get you through. When you get to the place of picking
the load-out, pick Desktop and you will be done! HTH
>
> From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/16 Fri AM 11:12:42 EDT
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Sub
Fritz Brown wrote:
> Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop
> (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with
> choices about which I know nothing!
>
> I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet (I have
> Opera fo
Kent West wrote:
Fritz Brown wrote:
, surf the internet (I have Opera for Linux ready to install),
Once you have an Internet connection, you're good to go. Most
applications you want are available from the official Debian
repositories, and it's generally these versions you'll want to
Josh Battles wrote:
Fritz Brown said:
Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7
CDs (booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am
utterly without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic
names and cryptic descriptions on
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 05:20:21PM +0500, Fritz Brown wrote:
> Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop
> (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with
> choices about which I know nothing!
>
> I only need the ability to dial-up and netw
Fritz Brown wrote:
>Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop
>(Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices
>about which I know nothing!
>
>
The RAM is a little lean for some of the more popular GUI setups (KDE,
Gnome, etc), bu
Fritz Brown said:
> Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7
> CDs (booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am
> utterly without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic
> names and cryptic descriptions on the second bootup
Fritz Brown wrote:
> Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7
> CDs (booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am
> utterly without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic
> names and cryptic descriptions on the second boot
Fritz Brown wrote:
Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7 CDs
(booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am utterly
without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic names and
cryptic descriptions on the second bootup (or
Fritz Brown wrote:
Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop
(Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices
about which I know nothing!
I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet (I have Opera
for Linux re
On 9/16/05, Fritz Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7
> CDs (booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am
> utterly without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic
> names and cryptic
Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7 CDs
(booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am utterly
without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic names and
cryptic descriptions on the second bootup (or is it the third?).
>
--- Fritz Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
> laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly
> overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing!
>
> I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the inter
Fritz:
> Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony
> laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly
> overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing!
>
> I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet (I
> have Opera for Linux ready
Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop
(Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices
about which I know nothing!
I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet (I have Opera
for Linux ready to install), and
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