Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 04:46:07PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Where could one find a stockpile of this paleolithic hardware? In a paleolithic hardware store. Rumor is that my local school district has a warehouse filled with systems dating back to Apple ][s and other

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-11 Thread donw
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Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 11:16:10PM +1300, Richard Hector ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 05:00:27PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > The biggest problem I see is that 486s had really minimal video support. > > 640x480, *maybe* 800x600 if you're lucky. A small color palle

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Hector
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 05:00:27PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > The biggest problem I see is that 486s had really minimal video support. > 640x480, *maybe* 800x600 if you're lucky. A small color pallet, > probably 256 max (8-bit). I think you're selling the VLB hardware a bit short there -

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 12:56:35PM -0600, Mark Gillingham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm a newbie, but have some experience with rdesktop and Terminal > Services on W2K. That is, I think it would be suitable for some > purposes at our foundation. > We have a number of old Zeos (AMD5x86) boxe

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-08 Thread Jack Carroll
> On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 11:04:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I have always wanted to do this. How do you have the 486s run an > X server without an OS? Or do they get a base Debian install? You need at least a minimum OS installed to provide an infrastructure for X. A li

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 18:43:10 -0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 07:16:32PM -0500, Andy Firman wrote: > > I have always wanted to do this. How do you have the 486s run an > >

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Kent West
On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 07:16:32PM -0500, Andy Firman wrote: I have always wanted to do this. How do you have the 486s run an X server without an OS? Basically you have the 486 boot off the network; newer BIOSes can do this, but a 486 will either require a boot prom in the network card

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 07:16:32PM -0500, Andy Firman wrote: > I have always wanted to do this. How do you have the 486s run an > X server without an OS? Heh, you don't. > Or do they get a base Debian install? Get a base Debian install, fetch a di

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Andy Firman
On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 11:04:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 12:56:35PM -0600, Mark Gillingham wrote: > > In your opinion, am I wasting my time doing this? > > No. In fact, the local school districts recently were thr

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 12:56:35PM -0600, Mark Gillingham wrote: > ... is rdesktop suitable for my purpose of displaying normal > Windows apps (e.g., Office). Thanks for your thoughts. I don't know. But I do know this: VNC works great for the purpose and it's enormously easier to use. -- Carl

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
My 133MHz 5x86 with VLB video was just barely adequate to run X11. The bottleneck is the video card, not the CPU. Same problems with a 50MHz 486DX2. Jeffrey Quoting Mark Gillingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm a newbie, but have some experience with rdesktop and Terminal > Services on W2K. That i

Re: Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 12:56:35PM -0600, Mark Gillingham wrote: > In your opinion, am I wasting my time doing this? No. In fact, the local school districts recently were threatened by Microsoft, the school districts gave MS the finger and switched t

Old x486 as thin client

2004-02-07 Thread Mark Gillingham
I'm a newbie, but have some experience with rdesktop and Terminal Services on W2K. That is, I think it would be suitable for some purposes at our foundation. We have a number of old Zeos (AMD5x86) boxes with 300MB drives that are all alike so parts are available. I installed X11 on one and noti