Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-17 Thread John Patton
Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:22:25PM +0200, Walter Hofmann wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, John Patton wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:30:29PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > > > I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, > > > up to this point, extremely satisfied w

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-17 Thread Walter Hofmann
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, John Patton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:30:29PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > > I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, > > up to this point, extremely satisfied with its performance. However, > > I've recently started having some sig

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-17 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You could further limit your rules by specifying the source >address of you cable modem provider, something like: > > -A INPUT -p icmp -s provider.cable.net -j ACCEPT > >Just figure out from your logs what ip address(es) t

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread Paul Mackinney
William Jensen uttered: > > I'm experiencing 20 to 54% packet loss coming into my pc and going out. > Charter cable company has been "resolving" this for almost 8 months now. > I've even showed them the exact ip to their local router that's causing > the problems, yet the continue to want to ping

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread john
Hi! Just an interesting note We had traceroute and ping disabled on our firewall, and our support guy got _deluged_ with calls from ppl claiming the server was down 'cos they couldnt ping it. They had tried to actually use the service it offered of course (typical lusers!). So consider what

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Joey Hess wrote: > As an only marginally related question, does anyone know of a good way > to configure a linux system to refuse all connections to any system that > is brokenly not responding to ICMP packets? Hmm... very, very nice idea. I suppose a modified version of the

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread Joey Hess
William Jensen wrote: > I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, > up to this point, extremely satisfied with its performance. However, > I've recently started having some signifiant issues with my cable modem > provider and they routinely want to ping and tracerout

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread John Patton
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:30:29PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, > up to this point, extremely satisfied with its performance. However, > I've recently started having some signifiant issues with my cable modem > provider and

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread William Jensen
Depending on who you talk to there and how reasonable they are, tell them you use a firewall and don't want to leave your machine "vulnerable" like this. It's possible that they will use the same machine or machines when they want to ping or traceroute to you. If so, you can allow just those mach

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread William Jensen
What do you think is dangeous about allowing ping/traceroute? Neither are be used to establish a service which could be exploited, so why so you care about denying ping / traceroute? Exactly, I'm going about the firewall as deny everything, then just let through what I know I want to come thr

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread Sebastiaan
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, William Jensen wrote: > I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, > up to this point, extremely satisfied with its performance. However, > I've recently started having some signifiant issues with my cable modem > provider and they routinely wan

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread Matthias Richter
William Jensen wrote on Mon Jul 16, 2001 at 02:30:29PM: > These appear to work, however, am I overlooking something from a > security point of view by allowing any icmp and ip's through? What do you think is dangeous about allowing ping/traceroute? Neither are be used to establish a service whic

Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread Hall Stevenson
> ...and they routinely want to ping and traceroute to > my machine. This requires me to take down my > firewall and wait for them to finish, then put it back > up. I'd like to make, as part of my rule set, ping and > traceroute able to get through. So far I've done this > for my input chain for

Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute

2001-07-16 Thread William Jensen
I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, up to this point, extremely satisfied with its performance. However, I've recently started having some signifiant issues with my cable modem provider and they routinely want to ping and traceroute to my machine. This requires