On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 18:38, Marty wrote:
> That looks familiar.
OK!
> In my case it also warned of imminent drive failure,
It said nothing about that...
> smartctl -H indicated that the disk was failing,
OK, I get:
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
(PASSED on
On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 05:40, Mike McCarty wrote:
> My recommendation:
>
> Get all the data you possibly can off that disc ASAP, and buy a
> replacement disc for $50. Then, and only then, start thinking about
> whether that drive can possibly be used for data storage. Maybe
> you could put /tm
Thanks for the words of wisdom, Seeker!
On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 11:32, Seeker5528 wrote:
> Using the Maxtor without it being paired to another drive is an easy
> test to do before getting into the things others have suggested that
> require additional parts or test equiptment.
H, well, it
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 01:27, Marty wrote:
It could be a spin-up problem due to a worn out motor.
Right. It is actually something like that that's my primary suspect.
This would
probably be reported by smartctl from the package smartmontools.
Ah, thanks for the
Alvin Oga wrote:
hi ya kjetil
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
For a long time, I have had problems before boot: My primary master disk
is sometimes not detected, and thus, the machine doesn't boot. It
happens about once a month, and it is completely magic to me: I usually
pull t
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:44:06 +0200
Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > - do not mix ata-66 with ata-100
> > - do not mix ata-100 with ata-133
>
> Hmmm, OK. Is it that fragile...?
>
> The slave is a 4.5 GB Western Digital something someone threw after
> me... I dump things
On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 01:27, Marty wrote:
> It could be a spin-up problem due to a worn out motor.
Right. It is actually something like that that's my primary suspect.
> This would
> probably be reported by smartctl from the package smartmontools.
Ah, thanks for the pointer!
Got the dae
On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 17:26 -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:44:06AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> > > Linus' backup strategy,
> >
> > Is that the one wher you posting it all on usenet and find it later
> > in the archives?
>
>
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Mike McCarty wrote:
> You can buy a new bare Seagate (I've only had good experiences with
> them) 40GB drive for $50 USD or so here in the Dallas, Texas area.
$$ gets my interest when its 25% ( 160GB for $40 or so )
- since these "rebates" are at fries ..
- anybody
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
[snip]
What I see is that if the primary master disk isn't detected, the
primary slave isn't either. However, if I pull the IDE cable from the
primary master, the primary slave is detected. This too, could be
This sounds like an electronics problem on the "master" dis
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:44:06AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> > Linus' backup strategy,
>
> Is that the one wher you posting it all on usenet and find it later
> in the archives?
just about everything "important" to linus is backed up and mirrored
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
And I have done nasty things to the system, just to see. For example
doing aide --update, updatedb, an intensive write process and a
CPU-intensive computation process simultaneously. It should put maximum
stress on the system, both power-wise, disk use and CPU... Never s
On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 00:53, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Normally good advice, but his hard disk seems to be working fine when
> it does power up.
Yup!
And I have done nasty things to the system, just to see. For example
doing aide --update, updatedb, an intensive write process and a
CPU-intens
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:44:06AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Linus' backup strategy,
Is that the one wher you posting it all on usenet and find it later
in the archives?
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:34:32PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
>
> as henrique(?) said ... make backups ..
>
> but i would counter that as, it's too late, to backup AFTER you detect
> whacky disks problems ...
> the backup process will aggrevate the flaky disks that is
> misbehaving,
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> > - do not mix ata-66 with ata-100
> > - do not mix ata-100 with ata-133
>
> Hmmm, OK. Is it that fragile...?
yup ...
hook up a scope to the cables and signals and you can see
all the retry's that would otherwise go un-noticed
> > i'd try
On torsdag 20 oktober 2005, 00:34, Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya kjetil
>
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> > Hehe, no, it was the latter, a it was a well-recognized store, but
> > they were caught shipping disks that had been returned as new.
>
> sounds like dell .. they paid millions for
hi ya kjetil
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hehe, no, it was the latter, a it was a well-recognized store, but they
> were caught shipping disks that had been returned as new.
sounds like dell .. they paid millions for that boo-boo
they've since changed to bringing used parts
On onsdag 19 oktober 2005, 23:35, Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya kjetil
Hey, and thanks for the quick response! :-)
> i'd replace the ide cables ... with new 80 conductor cable
Yup, that was the first thing I did... :-) It is the cheapest thing to
do, so I did that some time ago. No effect...
> > W
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:25:21PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My question is, I suppose OT, since things go wrong long before bootup,
> but with the many fine folks here, I hope you will permit me, and
> perhaps even provide me with an answer! :-)
Please, please make a backup.
hi ya kjetil
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> For a long time, I have had problems before boot: My primary master disk
> is sometimes not detected, and thus, the machine doesn't boot. It
> happens about once a month, and it is completely magic to me: I usually
> pull the power ca
Hi all,
My question is, I suppose OT, since things go wrong long before bootup,
but with the many fine folks here, I hope you will permit me, and
perhaps even provide me with an answer! :-)
For a long time, I have had problems before boot: My primary master disk
is sometimes not detected, and
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