Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> This looks strange for me, as I would think, the AP on the computer > would also need some processing time for recognition, correction and > routing to the host. Try it! If you notice an important performance penalty, *then* come back with the numbers and the details of your setup, so someone c

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-05 Thread John Hasler
Hans writes: > This looks strange for me, as I would think, the AP on the computer > would also need some processing time for recognition, correction and > routing to the host. Every packet is routed by the kernel. There is no seperate "AP". How much delay matters? Ping should be under a millis

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-05 Thread Joe
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 15:40:07 +0200 Hans wrote: > > Then use NGINX with RTMP-module listening on its standard port and > streaming with RTMP from Computer A to Computer B to the standard > port. > > Everything without any AP or router between. > > The stream can then be made visible with VLC

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-05 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Hans writes: > yes, I already am aware of this, but this I wanted to avoid. It will be then > again a new hop, which causes delay (and I suppose, a software router is > sklower than a hardware device). I haven't tried this, but take a look at: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc https://help.u

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-04 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-30, John Hasler wrote: > Hans writes: >> This looks strange for me, as I would think, the AP on the computer >> would also need some processing time for recognition, correction and >> routing to the host. > > Every packet is routed by the kernel. There is no seperate "AP". > > How much

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-04 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 30. März 2025, 21:41:30 CEST schrieb debian-u...@howorth.org.uk: > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > [snip] > > > If you make the storage server the access point > > What storage server? > I thought this was about live video display from a drone? Oh sorry, maybe I did the wrong expr

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-04-04 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 9:29 AM Hans wrote: > Am Samstag, 29. März 2025, 19:21:39 CEST schrieb Stefan Monnier: > > >> You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > > > > > > yes, I already am aware of this, but this I wanted to avoid. It will > > > be then again a new hop, w

[SOLVED] Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-31 Thread Hans
Hi folks, thank you very much for all your respose! It was so hepfull amnd I have again again a lot. You showed me different ways using software AP, ad-hoc and gave me many informations. I will test all these things now, what will take me some time. All my questions are fully answered and so

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-30 Thread debian-user
Timothy M Butterworth wrote: [snip] > If you make the storage server the access point What storage server? I thought this was about live video display from a drone?

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Sun 30 Mar 2025 at 15:40:07 (+0200), Hans wrote: > > What new hop? You said you had the setup: > > > > hostA≡E--cat5/6--cable--∃≡hostB > > no, I have no cable setup, I just said, I know, how to setup when using a > cable. Maybe I did not use the correct English idiom... Yes

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-30 Thread Joe
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 15:40:07 +0200 Hans wrote: > Hi David, > > > What new hop? You said you had the setup: > > > > hostA≡E--cat5/6--cable--∃≡hostB > > > > no, I have no cable setup, I just said, I know, how to setup when > using a cable. Maybe I did not use the correct Eng

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-30 Thread Hans
Hi David, > What new hop? You said you had the setup: > > hostA≡E--cat5/6--cable--∃≡hostB > no, I have no cable setup, I just said, I know, how to setup when using a cable. Maybe I did not use the correct English idiom... > where E and ∃ are ethernet sockets. (You don't norm

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-30 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 29. März 2025, 19:21:39 CEST schrieb Stefan Monnier: > >> You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > > > > yes, I already am aware of this, but this I wanted to avoid. It will > > be then again a new hop, which causes delay (and I suppose, > > a software router

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread Joe
On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 16:37:39 +0100 Hans wrote: > > You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > > designed to then connect that AP to the rest of the network, so > > that the AP is useful to wifi-only devices, but you can just > > ignore that. > > > > Example at: > > > >

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > yes, I already am aware of this, but this I wanted to avoid. It will > be then again a new hop, which causes delay (and I suppose, > a software router is sklower than a hardware device). No, if one of the PCs is the AP, then c

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Mar 2025 at 16:37:39 (+0100), Hans wrote: > > You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > > designed to then connect that AP to the rest of the network, so > > that the AP is useful to wifi-only devices, but you can just > > ignore that. > > > > Example at: > > >

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread Hans
> You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > designed to then connect that AP to the rest of the network, so > that the AP is useful to wifi-only devices, but you can just > ignore that. > > Example at: > > http://souktha.github.io/misc/create-ap-linuxpc/ > > Cheers, >

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread jeremy ardley
On 29/3/25 23:41, Hans wrote: It is not important, if a router is givng the devices an IP-address. So I do not need any dhcp. The IP-addresses can of course be set manually by me. The more problem I see, will be the encryption and passkey-exchange, if needed. However, I do not need encryption,

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread Hans
To clarify the access point will typically assign a subset of a class-C > range for DHCP. It will usually be O.K. to assign static addresses in > the same class C but out of the DHCP range > > An alternative depending on the router is to configure the router to > have fixed DHCP addresses based o

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread jeremy ardley
On 29/3/25 23:01, jeremy ardley wrote: On 29/3/25 22:53, Hans wrote: But is this possible with wifi, too? My idea was working with fixed IP`s and give computer A the IP-address from computer B as gateway, and the other way round. Of course I my thinking was wrong (otherwise it would have be

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread jeremy ardley
On 29/3/25 22:53, Hans wrote: But is this possible with wifi, too? My idea was working with fixed IP`s and give computer A the IP-address from computer B as gateway, and the other way round. Of course I my thinking was wrong (otherwise it would have been worked). The WiFi router usually assi

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Mar 2025 at 15:53:01 (+0100), Hans wrote: > > just a question: Is it possible, to connect two computers with linux via wlan > without any router? > > I know, it is working with ethernet cable and crossover-cable. > > But is this possible with wifi, too? My idea was working with fixed

OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

2025-03-29 Thread Hans
Dear list, just a question: Is it possible, to connect two computers with linux via wlan without any router? I know, it is working with ethernet cable and crossover-cable. But is this possible with wifi, too? My idea was working with fixed IP`s and give computer A the IP-address from computer