On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 04 Apr 2014 at 12:57:34 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:36:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > >[...]
>
Heh. When I joined the debian community, I thought I would be among the
older members of the list. Guess not.
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 06:45:59PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 04 Apr 2014 at 12:57:34 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:36:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm 81yrs, I don't have perfect recall, but in the recent past you went
> > > to the trouble of find
On Friday 04 April 2014 18:45:59 Brian wrote:
> Is there an 'Oldie Badge' to display for some members of this list.
:-)
Perhaps have a female version? A pendant perhaps?? ;-)
Lisi
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On Fri 04 Apr 2014 at 12:57:34 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:36:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> >
> > I'm 81yrs, I don't have perfect recall, but in the recent past you went
> > to the trouble of finding an exact reference as to the purpose of the
> > white list and
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:36:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> I'm 81yrs, I don't have perfect recall, but in the recent past you went
> to the trouble of finding an exact reference as to the purpose of the
> white list and you posted it here, but you apparently did not take the
> time to read
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 11:12:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is
> >good for you. So much for freedom of communication.
> >
>
> I disagree. Personally part of what I pay my ISP for is competent
> qual
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:18:17 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Hello Lisi,
>On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote:
>> You can't send money through the post
>Since when?
Lisi, don't forget that different jurisdictions may have different
regulations.
Having said that, I used to register
On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:00:09PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > Electronic mail is rapidly becoming a toy communication system.
> > How many people would tolerate their usual postal services (Royal
> > Mail in my case) making any decision whatsoe
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:18:17AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > You can't send money through the post
>
> Since when? An elderly relative used often to do so. (She is dead
> now, hence the past tense.)
Ahh! Should have googled¹ first! :
On Friday 04 April 2014 08:05:51 Chris Bannister wrote:
> You can't send money through the post
Since when? An elderly relative used often to do so. (She is dead
now, hence the past tense.)
Lisi
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On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:00:09PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> Electronic mail is rapidly becoming a toy communication system. How many
> people would tolerate their usual postal services (Royal Mail in my
> case) making any decision whatsoever about what they could send or
> receive?
>
> The question i
On 20140403_1857-0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:27:02PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > Read the description at Debian.org. I don't get my ideas about why it
> > is there from hearsay. I didn't know about it until you mentioned it.
> > I looked for it today and report what
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:27:02PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Read the description at Debian.org. I don't get my ideas about why it
> is there from hearsay. I didn't know about it until you mentioned it.
> I looked for it today and report what I found.
>
> > Seriously, you would expect people t
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote:
> Form what I understand, you only need to be whitelisted at Debian if you
> are *not* subscribed to a list, but wish to post to it. AIUI, it serves
> no other purpose.
That is correct. We use it only to avoid false positives.
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Brian wrote:
[snip]
Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is
good for you. So much for freedom of communication.
I disagree. Personally part of what I pay my ISP for is competent
quality filtering. They do a very good job - I see very little
junk mail and have n
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:18:11 -0400
> Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen,
>
> >hurt - besides everyone should be on the whitelist if posting to the
> >list regularly.
>
> Form what I understand, you only need to be whitelisted at Debian if y
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 07:33:04 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:32:01PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good
> > for you. So much for freedom of communication.
>
> You are entirely free to run your own mailse
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:32:01PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good
> for you. So much for freedom of communication.
You are entirely free to run your own mailserver. (Not a snark: that's exactly
what I do).
I used to be a co-adminis
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:18:11 -0400
Stephen Allen wrote:
Hello Stephen,
>hurt - besides everyone should be on the whitelist if posting to the
>list regularly.
Form what I understand, you only need to be whitelisted at Debian if you
are *not* subscribed to a list, but wish to post to it. AIUI, it
On 20140402_202040, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:27:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > On 20140402_145921, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:54:54AM -0500, Craig L. wrote:
> > > > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are
> > >
On 4/2/14, Stephen Allen wrote:
> Considering that the reason is unknown,(why they aren't getting email) it
> can't
> hurt - besides everyone should be on the whitelist if posting to the list
> regularly.
Ok, that's about the first time that part started to click. I was in
there with the crowd
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:27:05PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20140402_145921, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:54:54AM -0500, Craig L. wrote:
> > > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at
> > > least
> > > two other people reporting the sa
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:08:25PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 14:59:21 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> > Wonder if the folks having trouble have added their email to the Debian
> > Email Whitelist? https://lists.debian.org/whitelist/
>
> What does that do for them?
Considering t
Can't resist the opportunity to editorialize and say things that are easy
to take out of context, but, ...
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 10:47:20 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and
>
> How does
On 20140402_145921, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:54:54AM -0500, Craig L. wrote:
> > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at
> > least
> > two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking
> > anything as they don't even se
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 14:12:56 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:00:09 +0100
> Brian wrote:
>
> > How does one determine that?
>
> The server logs:
>
> ... H:RPBL [82.195.75.100] Connection refused due to
> abuse. Please contact your E-mail provider. (in reply to RCPT TO command)
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:00:09 +0100
Brian wrote:
> How does one determine that?
The server logs:
... H:RPBL [82.195.75.100] Connection refused due to
abuse. Please contact your E-mail provider. (in reply to RCPT TO command))
... H:RPBL
[82.195.75.100] Connection refused due to abuse. Please con
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 14:59:21 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> Wonder if the folks having trouble have added their email to the Debian
> Email Whitelist? https://lists.debian.org/whitelist/
What does that do for them?
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On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 10:47:20 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and
How does one determine that?
> it would appear the affected users IPS's are utilizing this service.
How does one determine that?
> The listmaster has requested to be del
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:54:54AM -0500, Craig L. wrote:
> I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at least
> two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking
> anything as they don't even seem to be able to prevent their internal
> communicatio
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:47:20AM -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and it would
> appear the affected users IPS's are
> utilizing this service. The listmaster has requested to be delisted but it
> may take some time for them to process the
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:32:33PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014, Mr Queue wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:54:54 -0500
> > "Craig L." wrote:
> >
> > > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at
> > > least
> > > two other people reporting th
Unfortunately this mailing list has been listed with senderscore and it would
appear the affected users IPS's are
utilizing this service. The listmaster has requested to be delisted but it may
take some time for them to process the
request.
https://www.senderscore.org/
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2014, Mr Queue wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:54:54 -0500
> "Craig L." wrote:
>
> > I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at
> > least
> > two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking
> > anything as they don't even seem
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:54:54 -0500
"Craig L." wrote:
> I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at least
> two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking
> anything as they don't even seem to be able to prevent their internal
> communications f
I have not received any list mailings since 30 March. I see there are at least
two other people reporting the same problem. I doubt my ISP is blocking
anything as they don't even seem to be able to prevent their internal
communications from being broadcast to normal users.
Is there any way to trou
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