Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:20:45AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,02.Apr.10, 07:29:59, Stephen aka Fishpaste wrote: > > > > Thanks, I know my way around Aptitude. I was just querying about the > > number of updates on a system that's updated daily. It seems that I > > got in on a very brief

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,02.Apr.10, 07:29:59, Stephen aka Fishpaste wrote: > > Thanks, I know my way around Aptitude. I was just querying about the > number of updates on a system that's updated daily. It seems that I > got in on a very brief window; maybe when some hardware was brought up > temporaily (who knows)

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-03 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 02:19 +0200, Ingo Kasten wrote: > Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / > release.d.o services back this weekend > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/04/msg00038.html > ries is up again and a timeline can be seen at: http://ftp-master.debian.

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Ingo Kasten
Hi, just found: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services back this weekend http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/04/msg00038.html >sigh!< :-) Ingo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Freeman
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 11:40:51PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: ... > We know, first three responses to the OP were links to the announcement. > Yet then people wondered why there was no message sent to the user-list, > as users also depend on that server. Gradually, this continued to > wonderi

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 11:40:51PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Kumar Appaiah schreef: > > On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:03:32PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > >>> how long this nightmare might go on. Debian-announce may > >>> be a fine additional list, but why shall I subscribe > >> The last entr

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Kumar Appaiah schreef: > On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:03:32PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: >>> how long this nightmare might go on. Debian-announce may >>> be a fine additional list, but why shall I subscribe >> The last entry I have from l.debian.announce is: >> >> "Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 updated" >>

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:03:32PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > >how long this nightmare might go on. Debian-announce may > >be a fine additional list, but why shall I subscribe > > The last entry I have from l.debian.announce is: > > "Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 updated" > > that was on January 30,

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Charles Kroeger
>how long this nightmare might go on. Debian-announce may >be a fine additional list, but why shall I subscribe The last entry I have from l.debian.announce is: "Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 updated" that was on January 30, 2010 the nightmare continues. -- C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-use

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread Stephen aka Fishpaste
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:45:26AM -0400, Stephen Powell uttered: > On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 03:50:22 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: > >> Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude > >> update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 p

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread S.D.A.
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 08:50:22AM +0100, Anthony Campbell uttered: > On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: > > [snip] > > > Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude > > update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to > > be updated! Now I know it's been a

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-02 Thread S.D.A.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:13:33AM -0500, John Hasler uttered: > "S.D.A." writes: > > Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some > > consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it > > should be posted to the 'user' lists. > > Many "users" cannot tolerat

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Hans Vogelsberger
Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-01 11:19, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: ... No, for squeeze there are no updates yet. ... ... but why shall I subscribe it if I already have the basic user list? Different lists for different purposes. One of these arguments again which were ridiculous already w

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-01 11:19, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: ... No, for squeeze there are no updates yet. ... Sjoerd ... but neither in debian-user nor in amd64 there is a person who thought it necessary to inform the subscribers officially of this fact, and even now there is nobody still who thinks i

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Hans Vogelsberger
... No, for squeeze there are no updates yet. ... Sjoerd ... but neither in debian-user nor in amd64 there is a person who thought it necessary to inform the subscribers officially of this fact, and even now there is nobody still who thinks it necessary to tell us how long this nightmare

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:21:36 -0400 (EDT), Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> S.D.A: >> >> I am assuming that you canceled out of it and did not do the updates. >> If that is the case, try issuing the following commands: >> >>aptitude keep-all >>aptitude update >>aptitude

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Stephen Powell schreef: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 03:50:22 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote: On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to be updated! Now I know it's been a few

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 03:50:22 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: >> Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude >> update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to >> be updated! Now I know it's been a few days since we re

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-04-01 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 31 Mar 2010, S.D.A. wrote: [snip] > Speaking of this issue (FTP master being down); I did an 'aptitude > update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to > be updated! Now I know it's been a few days since we received updates, > and I update every day prior to the downtim

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:51:31 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> "S.D.A." writes: >>> Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some >>> consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it >>> should be posted to the 'user' lists. > > No.

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-31 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
John Hasler wrote: > "S.D.A." writes: >> Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some >> consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it >> should be posted to the 'user' lists. No. debian-user is for "Help and discussion among users of Debian". debian-a

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-31 Thread John Hasler
"S.D.A." writes: > Precisely, far too many lists on Debian and they could use some > consolidation. My view is if an issue affects users of Debian; then it > should be posted to the 'user' lists. Many "users" cannot tolerate the high volume of debian-user but need to see announcements. These peop

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-31 08:51, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:32:29 -0400 "S.D.A." wrote: Hello S.D.A., update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to be updated! Now I know it's been a few days since we received updates, and I update every day prior to the downtime;

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:32:29 -0400 "S.D.A." wrote: Hello S.D.A., > update' for my SID laptop this morning. Says over 900 packages need to > be updated! Now I know it's been a few days since we received updates, > and I update every day prior to the downtime; Surely that can't be > right, can it?

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-31 Thread S.D.A.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 09:22:16AM +0100, Brad Rogers uttered: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:53:19 +0300 > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Hello Andrei, > > > security-master)[1] and testing/unstable users should be subscribed to > > debian-devel-announce. It's low-traffic enough to not be a burden to >

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:53:19 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello Andrei, > security-master)[1] and testing/unstable users should be subscribed to > debian-devel-announce. It's low-traffic enough to not be a burden to > follow. I tend to agree, but as per my reply to John (Hasler), not everyone

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:32:32 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Hello John, > The "announce" lists are not just for developers. Understood, but not everyone wants to subscribe to YANL (Yet ANother List), even one as low-traffic as dev-announce. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvi

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,29.Mar.10, 19:46:21, Brad Rogers wrote: > However, I reckon notification here would be a Good Thing{tm}. > > It's not just the developers that are affected by such problems as > ftpmaster.debian.org being partially incapacitated, albeit temporarily. IMHO: this does not affect stable users

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Brad writes: > However, I reckon notification here would be a Good Thing{tm}. > It's not just the developers that are affected by such problems as > ftpmaster.debian.org being partially incapacitated, albeit > temporarily. The "announce" lists are not just for developers. -- John Hasler -- To

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, > The repositories have not been shut down. All the Debian mirrors Sorry, poor wording on my part. However, I reckon notification here would be a Good Thing{tm}. It's not just the developers that are affected by su

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:58:29 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:17:48 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html >> and follow-ups on debian-devel. > > Just throwing this out as an idea; > > Wouldn't it make sense to

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:17:48 +0200 Wolodja Wentland wrote: Hello Wolodja, > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html > and follow-ups on debian-devel. Just throwing this out as an idea; Wouldn't it make sense to cc such announcements to the users list? Shutting down

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Aioanei Rares
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,29.Mar.10, 13:05:18, S Scharf wrote: Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html and the follow-ups on debian-devel. Regards, Andrei debian-user rocks

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Aioanei Rares
S Scharf wrote: Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? Stuart http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,29.Mar.10, 13:05:18, S Scharf wrote: > Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html and the follow-ups on debian-devel. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and develo

Re: No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:05 -0400, S Scharf wrote: > Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html and follow-ups on debian-devel. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4

No updates seen in a while

2010-03-29 Thread S Scharf
Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? Stuart