Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On 2015-07-13, Jonathan Levine wrote: > > [snip] > > ... [the ISP] allows us 50G traffic (that's up *plus* down) Have you looked at potentially signing up with a WISP in your area, or perhaps setting up your own PTP link from somewhere "in town" that you can obtain service from a wired ISP (e.g.

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 July 2015 02:38:26 Richard Owlett wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > [snip] > > > > I neither said nor implied that a limited bandwidth was an unusual > > problem. I said that Richard's usage was unusual. And I stand by that. > > my usage unusual?!!! *DEFINITELY* !!! > > I was just

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 July 2015 01:28:00 Jonathan Levine wrote: > On 7/13/15, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> If it ever began to irritate you, however, there have been microcode > >> updates - there were several from Intel - and you might be able to > >> install > >> one and get rid of the message. > > > > For AM

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: [snip] I neither said nor implied that a limited bandwidth was an unusual problem. I said that Richard's usage was unusual. And I stand by that. my usage unusual?!!! *DEFINITELY* !!! I was just pointing out that a solution to MY problem(s) might be worth considering

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Richard Owlett
Jonathan Levine wrote: [snip] So, on average, I try to keep myself down to about a gig a day, and it should be obvious why I took the approach I did. Downloading *one* DVD would have blown my budget for most of the week. *CHUCKLE* I consider a gig/MONTH large --snicker-- I rant cause there i

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/13/15, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> If it ever began to irritate you, however, there have been microcode >> updates - there were several from Intel - and you might be able to >> install >> one and get rid of the message. > > For AMD processors the microcode updates are available in linux-firmware, >

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 July 2015 01:09:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 14 July 2015 01:00:16 Jonathan Levine wrote: > > So the microcode business appears to only be a warning (that's still > > being reported) and not constitute a "problem".  It happily skips right > > past it and comes up normally. > > Go

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 July 2015 01:00:16 Jonathan Levine wrote: > So the microcode business appears to only be a warning (that's still being > reported) and not constitute a "problem".  It happily skips right past it > and comes up normally. Good! That's just what we want hear. If it ever began to irrit

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/13/15, Lisi Reisz wrote: > "However, on boot it tanks with a "microcode: no > support for this CPU vendor" error." > > He did not mention having solved this particular problem. In fact, it looks > as though he may still be having it. You must have missed the followup post, in which I wrote

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 July 2015 20:24:51 Brian wrote: > On Mon 13 Jul 2015 at 18:54:31 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 13 July 2015 18:39:42 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Ms. Reisz > > > Please read before replying in future. Mr. Levine had pointed out > > > one of his goals was minimum data charges du

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/13/15, Brian wrote: > On Mon 13 Jul 2015 at 18:54:31 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Monday 13 July 2015 18:39:42 Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> > Ms. Reisz >> > Please read before replying in future. Mr. Levine had pointed out >> > one of his goals was minimum data charges during install. I >> >

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Jul 2015 at 18:54:31 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 13 July 2015 18:39:42 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Ms. Reisz > > Please read before replying in future. Mr. Levine had pointed out > > one of his goals was minimum data charges during install. I > > pointed out that I had found a

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 July 2015 18:39:42 Richard Owlett wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 13 July 2015 13:30:40 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Jonathan Levine wrote: > >>> On 7/11/15, Richard Owlett wrote: > You might want to try a live-cd {https://www.debian.org/CD/live/}. > The netinst cd is

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 13 July 2015 13:30:40 Richard Owlett wrote: Jonathan Levine wrote: On 7/11/15, Richard Owlett wrote: You might want to try a live-cd {https://www.debian.org/CD/live/}. The netinst cd is a very minimal system. I can see it "running" when a "full" system might not. W

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
Sorry - I have just found the rest of the answers in a side thread. I couldn't find then just now. I was stuck in the Richard Owlett world of isolated DVDs. But the odd idea below might still be useful. I see however, that you have already reinstalled. The microcode or BIOS update ideas see

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 11 July 2015 04:29:23 Jonathan Levine wrote: > Greetings: > > I'm a hardware guy, and not a linux wonk, so I hope you'll all be > gentle and use words without too many syllables. > > I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current > distribution on a small-footprint p

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 July 2015 13:30:40 Richard Owlett wrote: > Jonathan Levine wrote: > > On 7/11/15, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> You might want to try a live-cd {https://www.debian.org/CD/live/}. > >> The netinst cd is a very minimal system. I can see it "running" > >> when a "full" system might not. Whe

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-13 Thread Richard Owlett
Jonathan Levine wrote: On 7/11/15, Richard Owlett wrote: You might want to try a live-cd {https://www.debian.org/CD/live/}. The netinst cd is a very minimal system. I can see it "running" when a "full" system might not. When I was looking for a distro I purchased live-cd's [https://www.debian.

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > I'd be inclined to do > > apt-get install xorg fwvm I assume that's fvwm. > and use 'startx' to test the video in X. Logs are in /var/log. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-12 Thread Brian
On Sat 11 Jul 2015 at 17:58:57 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > > > Reinstall; one partition for everything. > > > > The base system is installed next. You have no control over this. > > > > When it comes to installing other software do not install anything. > > Also, d

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > Reinstall; one partition for everything. > > The base system is installed next. You have no control over this. > > When it comes to installing other software do not install anything. > Also, deselect anything which is marked as selected. > > Complete installation and re

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Selim T . Erdoğan
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 04:15:09PM -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > On 7/11/15, Gary Dale wrote: > > > That almost sounds like a video driver problem. Are you running a gui? > > As I said, I went with the default install, so I don't know what it thinks > it's trying to run. I wasn't *expecting*

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > Not knowing how how you installed, do you fancy trying this: Sure, no reason not to. > Reinstall; one partition for everything. That's how I did it first time around, as that was the default. I'm accustomed to more complex partition schemes in other unixen, but figu

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Brian
On Sat 11 Jul 2015 at 15:18:21 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > > > A nice account. > > > > At the GRUB splash screen press 'E'. Find the line beginning 'linux' and > > add > > > >longhaul.enable=1 > > > > to the end of the line. Press F10. See how you go on. > > D

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/11/15, Gary Dale wrote: > That almost sounds like a video driver problem. Are you running a gui? As I said, I went with the default install, so I don't know what it thinks it's trying to run. I wasn't *expecting* one - I just need command-line on this thing. And it does (inconsistently) f

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/07/15 11:14 AM, Jonathan Levine wrote: On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: On Fri 10 Jul 2015 at 21:29:23 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: I'm a hardware guy, and not a linux wonk, so I hope you'll all be gentle and use words without too many syllables. I've just completed the "small cd" internet i

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/11/15, Richard Owlett wrote: > You might want to try a live-cd {https://www.debian.org/CD/live/}. > The netinst cd is a very minimal system. I can see it "running" > when a "full" system might not. When I was looking for a distro I > purchased live-cd's > [https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/]

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > A nice account. > > At the GRUB splash screen press 'E'. Find the line beginning 'linux' and > add > >longhaul.enable=1 > > to the end of the line. Press F10. See how you go on. Did that. Result was exactly the same, with the exception of not getting the longhaul

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Jonathan Levine wrote: On 7/10/15, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 11 July 2015 04:29:23 Jonathan Levine wrote: I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current distribution on a small-footprint pc based on the VIA EDEN ESP 6000. I went with all the defaults and it seemed to

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Brian
On Sat 11 Jul 2015 at 09:14:33 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 10 Jul 2015 at 21:29:23 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > > > >> I'm a hardware guy, and not a linux wonk, so I hope you'll all be > >> gentle and use words without too many syllables. > >> > >> I'

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/11/15, Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 Jul 2015 at 21:29:23 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > >> I'm a hardware guy, and not a linux wonk, so I hope you'll all be >> gentle and use words without too many syllables. >> >> I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current >> distributi

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Jonathan Levine
On 7/10/15, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 11 July 2015 04:29:23 Jonathan Levine wrote: >> I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current >> distribution on a small-footprint pc based on the VIA EDEN ESP >> 6000. I went with all the defaults and it seemed to complete >> unev

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 Jul 2015 at 21:29:23 -0600, Jonathan Levine wrote: > I'm a hardware guy, and not a linux wonk, so I hope you'll all be > gentle and use words without too many syllables. > > I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current > distribution on a small-footprint pc based o

Re: New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 11 July 2015 04:29:23 Jonathan Levine wrote: > I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current > distribution on a small-footprint pc based on the VIA EDEN ESP > 6000.  I went with all the defaults and it seemed to complete > uneventfully.  However, on boot it tanks w

New user having trouble with new install

2015-07-10 Thread Jonathan Levine
Greetings: I'm a hardware guy, and not a linux wonk, so I hope you'll all be gentle and use words without too many syllables. I've just completed the "small cd" internet install of the current distribution on a small-footprint pc based on the VIA EDEN ESP 6000. I went with all the defaults and i