Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-25 Thread Matt Johnson
--- Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anoop aryal wrote: > > is openoffice.org *EXACTLY* like MS Office? > > is Evolution *EXACTLY* like Outlook? > > No, but I wasn't asking for an exact match. > That was a strawman Tony set > up. I asked for a tool that was *like* it. I even > desc

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-25 Thread Duncan Anderson
On Saturday, 25 March 2006 20:33, Steve Lamb wrote: > anoop aryal wrote: > > is openoffice.org *EXACTLY* like MS Office? > > is Evolution *EXACTLY* like Outlook? > > No, but I wasn't asking for an exact match. That was a strawman Tony > set up. I asked for a tool that was *like* it. I even d

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-25 Thread Steve Lamb
anoop aryal wrote: > is openoffice.org *EXACTLY* like MS Office? > is Evolution *EXACTLY* like Outlook? No, but I wasn't asking for an exact match. That was a strawman Tony set up. I asked for a tool that was *like* it. I even described the tool, it set limits on applications. Traffic Shap

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-25 Thread anoop aryal
On Friday 24 March 2006 11:07 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > Tony Godshall wrote: > > Looking for things in open source that work EXACTLY like > > commercial tools in Windows is a recipe for failure. > > Uh, no, it's not. It's pretty much the foundation of where a lot of OS > software pulls people aw

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-25 Thread Doofus
Steve Lamb wrote: >When I reference a specific tool to address a specific problem it behooves >the individuals answering to look at what I am referencing first. I mean >would you consider the following a reasonable answer to, "Does there exist a >game like F.E.A.R. on Linux?" > >"Well, t

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Tony Godshall wrote: > Looking for things in open source that work EXACTLY like > commercial tools in Windows is a recipe for failure. Uh, no, it's not. It's pretty much the foundation of where a lot of OS software pulls people away from Commercial applications. I mean would you call someone

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Tony Godshall
> That is EXCACTLY what I was looking for. Setting limits on the Looking for things in open source that work EXACTLY like commercial tools in Windows is a recipe for failure. People are trying to be helpful and you slap them down. Go troll somewhere else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Chris Roddy wrote: > honestly it seems to me that this train-wreck has resulted from a poorly > phrased question. "is there a netlimiter-like tool in debian" is already > proposing the solution. it seems to me that the question here is "how > can i adjust network bandwidth consumption to achieve fo

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread anoop aryal
On Friday 24 March 2006 05:09 pm, Chris Roddy wrote: > indeed you can. trickle has several options for adjusting the detection > window and smoothing behavior. > > honestly it seems to me that this train-wreck has resulted from a poorly > phrased question. "is there a netlimiter-like tool in debian

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Roddy
indeed you can. trickle has several options for adjusting the detection window and smoothing behavior. honestly it seems to me that this train-wreck has resulted from a poorly phrased question. "is there a netlimiter-like tool in debian" is already proposing the solution. it seems to me that the q

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:24:56 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes. however, nowhere do you say that traffic shaping isn't what you want. > > and I also wrote: > in your original post you seem to imply that a front for iptables is okay but > that you also don't want t

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:43:40 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > well, Steve, to be honest, I was offended by the responses you were giving > > to everyone's attempts to help you. Maybe its a simple misunderstanding, > > but here's my take on it. I put up

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Alright, I'm going to chalk all this up to simple communications issues. In that email is arguably a flawed method of human interaction as we miss all kinds of things and frequently mis-interpret what others really mean. On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:30:33 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > well, Steve, to be honest, I was offended by the responses you were giving > to everyone's attempts to help you. Maybe its a simple misunderstanding, > but here's my take on it. I put up the first response telling you "google > is your friend" and pointing you to a de

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Doofus wrote: > As a neutral reader I'd say "hostile" is way overstated. More hostile > would have been the more appropriate advice "learn to use the search > facilities", which it seems everyone in here is too friendly and helpful > to have given you. Uhm, a few did. Point is as a regular

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:20:38 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas Rippl wrote: > > Which leads us to your options: > > Why does this hostile crap always come out to a simple request. "Does > this exist?" If not why always, ALWAYS is it "write your own", "Live with > what yo

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-24 Thread Doofus
Steve Lamb wrote: >Andreas Rippl wrote: > > >>Which leads us to your options: >> >> > >Why does this hostile crap always come out to a simple request. "Does >this exist?" If not why always, ALWAYS is it "write your own", "Live with >what you get" or "get outta here"? What is so hard w

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Andreas Rippl wrote: > Which leads us to your options: Why does this hostile crap always come out to a simple request. "Does this exist?" If not why always, ALWAYS is it "write your own", "Live with what you get" or "get outta here"? What is so hard with a simple, "No, it doesn't." Jeez.

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-23 Thread anoop aryal
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 02:32 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andreas Rippl wrote: > > Package: trickle > > First off it is really poor considering it needs to be run once per > application. This would require mass editing of init.d scripts. Secondly > trickle is very poor at what it does. > If

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-23 Thread Andreas Rippl
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:32:35PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andreas Rippl wrote: > > Package: trickle > > First off it is really poor considering it needs to be run once per > application. This would require mass editing of init.d scripts. Secondly > trickle is very poor at what it does.

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Andreas Rippl wrote: > Package: trickle First off it is really poor considering it needs to be run once per application. This would require mass editing of init.d scripts. Secondly trickle is very poor at what it does. If you tell it to limit something to 80kps and you have a 160kps line it

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-22 Thread Andreas Rippl
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 09:58:32PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Mankuthimma wrote: > > In this case apt is your friend :) > > > $ apt-cache search apache limit > > libapache-mod-limitipconn - module for Apache which limits simultaneous > > connections per IP > > And Apache was an example. Now

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:38:21 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > google is your friend. > > Not in this case. Not in many cases. Have you googled Netlimiter to see > what I was asking about? Wondershaper and other tools don't equate to that > tool

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Mankuthimma wrote: > In this case apt is your friend :) > $ apt-cache search apache limit > libapache-mod-limitipconn - module for Apache which limits simultaneous > connections per IP And Apache was an example. Now for the other applications I am running? -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-21 Thread Mankuthimma
Hi,On 3/22/06, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote:> google is your friend.Not in this case.  Not in many cases.  Have you googled Netlimiter to seeIn this case apt is your friend :)$ apt-cache search apache limit libapache-mod-limitipconn - module for Apache which

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > google is your friend. Not in this case. Not in many cases. Have you googled Netlimiter to see what I was asking about? Wondershaper and other tools don't equate to that tool. All of those seem to be a good basis but the configuration is a wee bit above "this

Re: Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:41:57 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, this is bugging me immensely. I'm getting tired of applications on my > linux box hogging all my BW. Unfortunately most of 'em haven't wised up to > the whole self-limiting of bandwidth. The primary culprit right

Netlimiter liike tool

2006-03-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Ok, this is bugging me immensely. I'm getting tired of applications on my linux box hogging all my BW. Unfortunately most of 'em haven't wised up to the whole self-limiting of bandwidth. The primary culprit right now is Apache. Every time Google or Yahoo (normally at the same time) decide t