Re: Reminiscences, was Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 23:36:02 David Wright wrote: > > > Now I know that you like testing your printers with real 80 page > > > jobs, > > > > Your exhuberant guess is approximately 1800 pages short. There are > > almost 1900 pages of LinuxCNC manuals. > > I was within 10% of the 88 page jobs you

Reminiscences, was Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > On Monday 30 March 2015 12:45:50 David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > > > On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: > > > > On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:5

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:31:15 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > [snip...] > It does, network-mangler is totally incapable of dealing with a local > /etc/hosts file based network. I've added hosts to /etc/hosts with no problem whilst sill having Network Manager do its thing. However, I DID comment ou

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 12:45:50 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > > On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: > > > > > These directives should

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 10:06:48 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 30 March 2015 14:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > > CF > > You've defeated me _and_ > http://www.acronymfinder.com/ > this time Gene! Suffice to say its not supposed to be spelled out in mixed company. > Well, anyhow, me. :-( > > Lisi Che

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: > > On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: > > > > These directives should be in /etc/cups/cups-files. > > > > > > I was just making sure

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread claude juif
Humm, Chinese Food Maybe ? ;) 2015-03-30 16:06 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz : > On Monday 30 March 2015 14:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > > CF > > You've defeated me _and_ > http://www.acronymfinder.com/ > this time Gene! > > Well, anyhow, me. :-( > > Lisi > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 30 March 2015 14:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > CF You've defeated me _and_ http://www.acronymfinder.com/ this time Gene! Well, anyhow, me. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 08:20:27 Brian wrote: > On Mon 30 Mar 2015 at 07:52:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: > > > A rhetorical question? Upstream has explained why a number of > > > times. > > > > Rhetorical? No. URL? > > http://lwn.net/Articles/4

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 07:57:58 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 30 March 2015 12:52:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And, tell that to cups, or if installed, on BEH, which sees it as a > > failure & restarts the job, wasting another 40 sheets of paper & > > toner by the time you get it stopped by nuking

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Mar 2015 at 12:57:58 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 30 March 2015 12:52:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And, tell that to cups, or if installed, on BEH, which sees it as a > > failure & restarts the job, wasting another 40 sheets of paper & toner > > by the time you get it stopped by nu

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Mar 2015 at 07:52:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: > > > > A rhetorical question? Upstream has explained why a number of times. > > Rhetorical? No. URL? http://lwn.net/Articles/485617/ should give enough for a wider and deeper search >

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 06:48:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: > > On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 10:57:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I am getting the impression that the overall install on both doesn't > > > have the correct Browsing options set, f

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 30 March 2015 12:52:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > And, tell that to cups, or if installed, on BEH, which sees it as a > failure & restarts the job, wasting another 40 sheets of paper & toner > by the time you get it stopped by nuking the cups stuff in /var/cups > or /var/tmp, or maybe /tmp, de

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: > On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: > > > These directives should be in /etc/cups/cups-files. > > > > I was just making sure I could kill a job gone wild without having > > to bec

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: > > > > These directives should be in /etc/cups/cups-files. > > I was just making sure I could kill a job gone wild without having to > become root on a rootless system to do it. My color la

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150329_1814+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:11 Brian wrote: > > > Browsing On > > > BrowseOrder allow,deny > > > BrowseAllow all > > > BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS > > > BrowseAddress @LOCAL > > > BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd > > > > This is almost the standard Wheezy,

Re: Need help with CUPS printing [solved?]

2015-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150329_1421+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2015 13:36:28 Curt wrote: > > On 2015-03-29, deloptes wrote: > > > Hi > > > long mails are not easy to read and understand. Most important is the > > > quality of information in it ... like model number or chipset in the > > > hardware

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: > On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 10:57:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am getting the impression that the overall install on both doesn't > > have the correct Browsing options set, from this machine which > > serves all > > That could be a possibility, alt

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:14:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:11 Brian wrote: > > > Browsing On > > > BrowseOrder allow,deny > > > BrowseAllow all > > > BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS > > > BrowseAddress @LOCAL > > > BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd > > > > This is almost the

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:11 Brian wrote: > > Browsing On > > BrowseOrder allow,deny > > BrowseAllow all > > BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS > > BrowseAddress @LOCAL > > BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd > > This is almost the standard Wheezy, It will not suffice on Jessie. The > BrowseOrder, BrowseAl

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 10:57:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I am getting the impression that the overall install on both doesn't have > the correct Browsing options set, from this machine which serves all That could be a possibility, although the OP did say > After installing the most recent

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 March 2015 05:22:19 deloptes wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. > > I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in > > firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for > > Apple L

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 29 March 2015 13:36:28 Curt wrote: > On 2015-03-29, deloptes wrote: > > Hi > > long mails are not easy to read and understand. Most important is the > > quality of information in it ... like model number or chipset in the > > hardware you use etc. > > +1 I'm afraid that I gave up trying

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-29, deloptes wrote: > > Hi > long mails are not easy to read and understand. Most important is the > quality of information in it ... like model number or chipset in the > hardware you use etc. +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread deloptes
Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. > I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in > firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for > Apple Localtalk connection, but no USB. It is a sturdy old beast

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150327_0237-0400, ken wrote: > On 03/26/2015 07:38 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > >I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. > >I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in > >firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for > >Ap

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-26 Thread ken
On 03/26/2015 07:38 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple Localtalk connection, but no USB. It is a

Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple Localtalk connection, but no USB. It is a sturdy old beast and was running nicely until q