Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/27/2010 7:10 PM: > Ah-so! Now I see your point of confusion. At the start of the > thread, I mentioned two motherboards -- a P5Q-EM and a M3A78-T. With > the M3A78-T there were line artifacts. But with the P5Q-EM, the > problem was simply that the display went

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Stan Hoeppner [101228 00:28]: > consider 10 years of pretty harsh duty a "long life". Who knows how > many years my BP6 has left in it. Hopefully at least a few, as I still > love this board, and it works great in its current role. When one speaks of the lifetime of a capacitor, the usual mea

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Stan Hoeppner [101228 00:28]: > Paul I get the feeling you've read a lot of forums and magazines, and > know some people who might know their stuff, but that you personally > don't really have any experience as a PC/server hardware tech. Is this > an accurate assessment? I am not a technician;

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Stan Hoeppner [101228 00:28]: > The line artifacts you describe, if you are indeed describing them > accurately, are nearly always caused by static stray magnetic fields. > Something as innocuous as a small decorative refrigerator magnet stuck > to the PC case can cause things like this. > > I

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
Le 27/12/2010 19:45, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : > tv.deb...@googlemail.com put forth on 12/27/2010 3:24 AM: > >> Frankly, I am not sure those technos are worth it on mother/gfx boards >> unless you're a keeper, it will probably be replaced long before it >> bursts a capacitor, much cheaper boards wit

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/27/2010 4:40 AM: > In view of the fact that capacitors are the Achilles Heel of the PC > motherboard Cheap case designs and motherboard designs with poor ventilation around the CPU socket VRM mosfets are, not caps. Far more motherboards fail due to VRM fets burn

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/27/2010 4:28 AM: > None of these are a factor; the nearest potential source of > interference is a ceiling fluorescent fixture. And I see the same > pattern with the machine in different rooms. The line artifacts you describe, if you are indeed describing them a

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
tv.deb...@googlemail.com put forth on 12/27/2010 3:24 AM: > Frankly, I am not sure those technos are worth it on mother/gfx boards > unless you're a keeper, it will probably be replaced long before it > bursts a capacitor, much cheaper boards with whatever capacitors can > last for a couple of yea

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Russell L. Harris wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom [101226 22:56]: No Asus? Too bad. I really like my Asus M4N98TD EVO. First mobo I bought that worked out-of-the-box. Hi, Hugo, Thanks for the recommendation. I suppose that I should look again at Asus, now that Squeeze has X working on the M3A78-T.

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:12:17 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of > video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid > capacitors. (Motherbo

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Russell L. Harris [101227 00:28]: > Finally, I was in error regarding the P5Q-EM; it employs solid > capacitors only in the critical power supply circuitry surrounding the > processor; other capacitors on the board are electrolytic. This is > typical of the garden-variety motherboards which I s

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* tv.deb...@googlemail.com [101227 09:28]: > Asustek uses what they call "military grade" technology (chokes, > capacitors and mofsets) on some boards (SABERTOOTH's at least), it's not > tantalum but claimed to be at least as reliable. ... > Having lost two expensive Samsung screens to crappy (C

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Stan Hoeppner [101227 08:28]: > I seriously doubt a DIMM is the problem. I can physically see what you > describe with words, but it sure sound like an EMI/RFI issue, not the > hardware, _especially_ after swapping mobo guts twice. >From amateur radio experience in years past, I know a little

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
>26/12/2010 21:55, Doug wrote: >> On 12/26/2010 11:19 AM, Joe wrote: >> I've had a Giga GA-MA74GM-S2H for a year now. It hasn't died yet, and >> I can't really say more than that. The most exotic stuff I do is gEDA >> PCB layout, and I'm not aware of any performance problems. Built-in >> sound and

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:46 PM: > If the problem indeed is in the video ram, am I correct in assuming > that I should have no great concern regarding data integrity in the > other systems of the motherboard? I seriously doubt a DIMM is the problem. I can physically see what yo

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Sunday 26 December 2010 06:46 pm, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * Mark Neidorff [101226 22:56]: > > Well OK. So, this seems to me to be a memory problem. I'm guessing the > > video ram. Whatever memory the 80X25 mode is mapping into has become > > flaky. When you start X, you are using differe

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Hugo Vanwoerkom [101226 22:56]: > No Asus? Too bad. I really like my Asus M4N98TD EVO. First mobo I bought > that worked out-of-the-box. Hi, Hugo, Thanks for the recommendation. I suppose that I should look again at Asus, now that Squeeze has X working on the M3A78-T. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Doug [101226 22:56]: > Maybe it's time to buy tantalum capacitors. More expensive, > slightly smaller, and (I believe) less likely to blow up. Available > with parallel wires or in surface mount configurations. Military > equipment has been using tantalum caps for years, so they must be > reli

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Mark Neidorff [101226 22:56]: > Well OK. So, this seems to me to be a memory problem. I'm guessing the > video > ram. Whatever memory the 80X25 mode is mapping into has become flaky. When > you start X, you are using different memory, so no problem. Why didn't ASUS > solve the problem?

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Doug
On 12/26/2010 11:19 AM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:12:17 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-l

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread shawn wilson
On Dec 26, 2010 12:11 PM, "Mark Neidorff" wrote: > > On Sunday 26 December 2010 09:00 am, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > * Stan Hoeppner [101226 13:35]: > > > Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM: > > > > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > > > > purchase

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Russell L. Harris wrote: I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid capacitors. (Motherboard life typically is limited by deteriorat

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Sunday 26 December 2010 09:00 am, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * Stan Hoeppner [101226 13:35]: > > Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM: > > > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > > > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Joe
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:12:17 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of > video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid > capacitors. (Mother

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Stan Hoeppner [101226 13:35]: > Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM: > > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of > > video problems. > > Two? Hi, Stan. It really isn't so odd; aft

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Russell L. Harris put forth on 12/26/2010 5:12 AM: > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of > video problems. Two? > With the M3A78-T, the POST screen displayed a cross-hatch pattern of > horizontal

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
* shawn wilson [101226 12:28]: > I don't think that brand or manufacturing process are the issue here > unless you bought cheap asus boards Cheap boards generally do not have solid capacitors exclusively. > > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) > So, assuming a decent

Re: need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread shawn wilson
On Dec 26, 2010 6:12 AM, "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I > purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of > video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid > capacitors. (Motherboard lif

need motherboard recommendation

2010-12-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
I am tossing into the dumpster the last two motherboards which I purchased -- Asus M3A78-T (AMD64) and Asus P5Q-EM (i386) -- because of video problems. I purchased the boards because of the long-life solid capacitors. (Motherboard life typically is limited by deterioration of conventional electro

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-11 Thread Bob
Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 15:45 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MSI K9A Platinum http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=28 I use this board with an AMD 3800 X2 . No problem. Ditto here. No issues, good bo

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-09 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 15:45 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > MSI K9A Platinum > > http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=28 > > I use this board with an AMD 3800 X2 . No problem. Ditto here. No issues, good board. Kenward -- In a comple

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-09 Thread Dominique Dumont
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > MSI K9A Platinum > http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=28 I use this board with an AMD 3800 X2 . No problem. I may have a small USB issue with a Nova-t dvb device. I'm still not sure if it's a HW or software problem. Besides this, this board

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 07:35:59PM +0100, MRH wrote: > Dnia 04/10/07 05:35,Chris Bannister napisa??: > >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote: > >>Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard > >>that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttl

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-04 Thread Bob
Michael Acklin wrote: Bob wrote: Eric Estes wrote: Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a replacement asap. I've been looking into MBs and really like the look of. Sapphire Pure C

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-04 Thread Wu-Kung Sun
I'd check Phoronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=category&item=Motherboards http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11 -- swk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-04 Thread MRH
Dnia 04/10/07 05:35,Chris Bannister napisał: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote: Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a replacement asap. Hi Eric, I am disa

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-04 Thread Michael Acklin
Bob wrote: Eric Estes wrote: Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a replacement asap. I've been looking into MBs and really like the look of. Sapphire Pure CrossFire 3200 Adv. ht

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-04 Thread Bob
Eric Estes wrote: Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a replacement asap. I've been looking into MBs and really like the look of. Sapphire Pure CrossFire 3200 Adv. http://products

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that > has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a > replacement asap. > Hi Eric, I am disappointed no one has replied to this as it

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-03 Thread MRH
Dnia 03/10/07 14:54,Douglas A. Tutty napisał: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote: Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a replacement asap. I'm running an Asus M

Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Eric Estes wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard > that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and > need a replacement asap. I'm running an Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe that has an AM2 socket. I hav

Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-02 Thread Eric Estes
Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a replacement asap. Thanks.

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-28 Thread Yusuf
Ars Technica has really good recommendations to build complete systems. Even if you just want a mobo, and even if their choices are not availiable in your surroundings, it makes for a good read. http://arstechnica.com/guide/system/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-25 Thread Paul Gear
Paul Gear wrote: > ... > I have a Gigabyte GA-7N400Pro, and i can personally vouch for it's solid > performance under Linux s/it's/its/ I can't believe i just did that - *it's* one of my pet peeves. :-| -- Paul -- Every gun that is made, every warship launched, ev

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-25 Thread Paul Gear
Stephen Tait wrote: > ... >> > I don't have a recommendation, but i can disrecommend the NVIDIA >> > nForce2 chipset from a free software perspective. The NIC has a >> > closed source driver. When i emailed them about it, the response was, >> > "Our networking performance is too important to allo

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-24 Thread Dana J. Laude
Paul Gear wrote: Michael Rumpf wrote: Hi, I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board that is known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't want to buy another board and find myself disabling most of the features as they don't work under Linux. I don't have a rec

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-24 Thread Stephen Tait
At 09:49 24/08/2004 -0500, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:19:49 +1000 Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Rumpf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board > > that is known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't > > want to b

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-24 Thread Jacob S.
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:19:49 +1000 Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Rumpf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board > > that is known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't > > want to buy another board and find myself dis

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-24 Thread Paul Gear
Michael Rumpf wrote: > Hi, > > I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board that is > known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't want to buy > another board and find myself disabling most of the features as they > don't work under Linux. I don't have a recomme

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
Michael Rumpf wrote: Hi, I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board that is known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't want to buy another board and find myself disabling most of the features as they don't work under Linux. I wanted a new mobo for my Athlon

Re: Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-21 Thread John Floren
Michael Rumpf wrote: Hi, I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board that is known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't want to buy another board and find myself disabling most of the features as they don't work under Linux. Thanks, Michael I just upgraded t

Motherboard recommendation?

2004-08-21 Thread Michael Rumpf
Hi, I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board that is known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't want to buy another board and find myself disabling most of the features as they don't work under Linux. Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA