Re: Mozilla/Netscape mass bookmark editing (was: More detailed post ...)

2003-02-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.19.1648 +0100]: > Does Mozilla now let one edit a bunch of bookmarks without having to > close and open the bookmark properties window repeatedly? No, but galeon, which is based on Mozilla, has that feature. Galeon's the better browser anyway, but

Re: Mozilla/Netscape mass bookmark editing (was: More detailed post ...)

2003-02-19 Thread Daniel B.
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > ... > > (Well, when Mozilla gets the ability to edit bookmarks as well as > > Netscape Communicator 4, then I will upgrade.) > > Start moving. Does Mozilla now let one edit a bunch of bookmarks without having to close and open the bookmark properties window repeatedly?

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:22:04PM -0500, Daniel Barclay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I should change mail software just for the Mail-Followup-To: header? > > I should drop all the positive features of my current mailer (Netscape > Communicator 4) just to get automatic Mail-Followup-To: support?

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:38:25PM -0500, Fred Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html > > i hadn't read that, and it brings up a number of points I hadn't > considered, but the majority of them are alo

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-11 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 03:58:43PM -0500, jereme wrote: > Hi Pigeon, > > [snips:] > > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 10:19:16PM -0500, jereme wrote: > > > > > > That is like telling me to build a fence so your dog doesn't crap on > > > my lawn... > > > > If your

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-11 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 15:16, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:17:25PM +0100, Yven Johannes Leist wrote: [...] > > old anyway so just switch to something newer" seems at least slightly out > > of touch with reality to me... > > Sometimes change is good. I was quite proficie

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:17:25PM +0100, Yven Johannes Leist wrote: > On Monday 10 February 2003 10:28, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.0354 +0100]: > > > > Nobody said to drop features. You are adding. We are not even going to > > > > start to

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-11 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:28, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.0354 +0100]: > > > Nobody said to drop features. You are adding. We are not even going to > > > start to compare Netscape to mutt! > > > > Geez. Pay attention. > > > > You suggeste

Re: OT: kmail vs. mutt (was: More detailed post ...)

2003-02-11 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 10 February 2003 16:28, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:29:35AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > since when is kmail a frontend to mutt? > > It makes the claim that it is. I cannot imagine why it should, KMail has never been, and most probably never will be a fronten

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:59:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:02:46PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > >(By the way, where is that message header defined? I just searched > > > >through all the IETF RfCs but couldn't find it.) > > > > > > Whatever the RFCs say, ...

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:38:25PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > This isn't standard, nor is it a good idea. (Yahoo Groups is the only > > place I know of that still uses it). > > > > mailman and ezmlm both do this. i'm not sure if it is the

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-10 22:10]: >In any case now I am deleting the author's e-mail address from the >To:/Cc: list (unless I forget). Thanks. I have rarely a problem with things happening accidently on mailing lists, so this is fine by me. Thorsten -- He who receive

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:38:25PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > > This isn't standard, nor is it a good idea. (Yahoo Groups is the only > > place I know of that still uses it). > > mailman and ezmlm both do this. i'm not sure if it is the default,

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.2210 +0100]: > In any case now I am deleting the author's e-mail address from the > To:/Cc: list (unless I forget). Thanks. Now do yourself the favour and look at mutt! -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`.

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Fred Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.2038 +0100]: > mailman and ezmlm both do this. i'm not sure if it is the default, or > it is just the case on the mailing lists that i'm subscribed to. it's not the default on either. and both strongly suggest not to do it. > mutt apparently

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Daniel Barclay
Paul Johnson wrote: > ... > There's positive features to NS4 mail? Were you trying to have a real discussion or not? If not, never mind. If so, see my other reply about what I meant about adding/dropping features. Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Daniel Barclay
Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:54:40PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > How would that _not_ drop whatever features my current (non-mutt) MUA > > has? > > Mutt, and it's KDE frontend kmail, are *far* more featureful and far > faster than Netscape is. Trust us on this and give

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread jereme
Hi Pigeon, [snips:] Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 10:19:16PM -0500, jereme wrote: > > > > That is like telling me to build a fence so your dog doesn't crap on > > my lawn... > > If your dog crapped on my lawn, I'd rather build a fence than bitch at > you about it.

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Daniel Barclay
Thorsten Haude wrote: > ... > I'm not intimate with the datails of Netscape's usage; you arbitrary > send the mail to two addresses where one is enough to do the work. > > Please explain where the value is in sending the mail twice. I didn't claim there's any value in sending the message twice.

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Fred Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030210 12:14]: > mutt apparently has a reply-to-list function that i was unaware of. (g, > instead of r) Actually mutt has 3 reply functions: reply reply to a message group-reply reply to all recipients list-reply reply to specified mailing list The m

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 10:19:16PM -0500, jereme wrote: > > That is like telling me to build a fence so your dog doesn't crap on > my lawn... If your dog crapped on my lawn, I'd rather build a fence than bitch at you about it. In fact, that would stop everybody's dog crapping on my lawn, and achi

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > This isn't standard, nor is it a good idea. (Yahoo Groups is the only > place I know of that still uses it). > mailman and ezmlm both do this. i'm not sure if it is the default, or it is just the case on the mailing lists that i'm subscribed t

Re: OT: kmail vs. mutt (was: More detailed post ...)

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.1628 +0100]: > It makes the claim that it is. The functionality is remarkably > similar, reminds me of mutt done topheavy or Outlook if it weren't > designed by idiots. As of version 3 I take it? Because 2.2.2 is definitely no mutt frontend

Re: OT: kmail vs. mutt (was: More detailed post ...)

2003-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:29:35AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > since when is kmail a frontend to mutt? It makes the claim that it is. The functionality is remarkably similar, reminds me of mutt done topheavy or Outlook if it weren't designed by idiots. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +1100, Russell wrote: > This is the behaviour of mozilla. It should have a button that does > reply-to-list without doing a reply-to-sender, or everyone will get > double messages. Does any other mailer fix that? Mutt, kmail, ximian evolution, likely more. --

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.0354 +0100]: > > Nobody said to drop features. You are adding. We are not even going to > > start to compare Netscape to mutt! > > Geez. Pay attention. > > You suggested that I use mutt. > > How would that _not_ drop whatever features m

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.0347 +0100]: > > You can easily do that on the client side with procmail and the > > References: header. > > Is there any chance that elimination of duplicate messages can be > done (relatively easily) with procmail? yes: man procmailex.

OT: kmail vs. mutt (was: More detailed post ...)

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.0512 +0100]: > Mutt, and it's KDE frontend kmail, are *far* more featureful and far > faster than Netscape is. Trust us on this and give it a try before > you knock it. since when is kmail a frontend to mutt? -- Please do not CC me when r

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Fred Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.0813 +0100]: > if you are going to be complaining to anyone, you should complain to > whomever runs lists.debian.org, not to the people who accidentially (or > unknowingly) send a "reply to all" whenever they post to this list. noo

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Gary Turner
Nick Hastings wrote: >* Fred Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030210 16:41]: >> netscape/mozilla does this and evolution does this. the >> kind people at ximian were good enough to add a "reply to list" function >> to evolution to get around _broken_ mailing list software (like whatever >> is runnin

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Russell
Vineet Kumar wrote: * Fred Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030209 23:41]: On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 01:46, Thorsten Haude wrote: I'm not intimate with the datails of Netscape's usage; you arbitrary send the mail to two addresses where one is enough to do the work. Please explain where the value is in

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi, * Fred Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030210 16:41]: > On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 01:46, Thorsten Haude wrote: > > I'm not intimate with the datails of Netscape's usage; you arbitrary > > send the mail to two addresses where one is enough to do the work. > > > > Please explain where the value is in se

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Fred Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030209 23:41]: > On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 01:46, Thorsten Haude wrote: > > I'm not intimate with the datails of Netscape's usage; you arbitrary > > send the mail to two addresses where one is enough to do the work. > > > > Please explain where the value is in sending

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:13:23AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > i think a bigger problem is that mail from lists.debian.org does not use > the standard convention of setting the "reply-to:" header to the list's > post address. This isn't standard, nor is it a good idea. (Yahoo Groups is the only p

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-10 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Fred Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-10 08:13]: >On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 01:46, Thorsten Haude wrote: >> I'm not intimate with the datails of Netscape's usage; you arbitrary >> send the mail to two addresses where one is enough to do the work. >> >> Please explain where the value is in sen

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 01:46, Thorsten Haude wrote: > I'm not intimate with the datails of Netscape's usage; you arbitrary > send the mail to two addresses where one is enough to do the work. > > Please explain where the value is in sending the mail twice. i think a bigger problem is that mail fro

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-10 03:47]: >Is there any chance that elimination of duplicate messages can be >done (relatively easily) with procmail? Procmail can even delete spam; that's no reason to send some. Thorsten -- The best leaders are those barely known to their fo

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-10 03:44]: >If I use Netscape Communicator's Reply function (which I think >implements the standard Reply-to-author function), it only goes to the >author and doesn't get back to the mailing list. > >So instead I use its Reply All function (which I

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:47:50PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Is there any chance that elimination of duplicate messages can be > done (relatively easily) with procmail? This is covered in procmailex(5). -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'`

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:54:40PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > How would that _not_ drop whatever features my current (non-mutt) MUA > has? Mutt, and it's KDE frontend kmail, are *far* more featureful and far faster than Netscape is. Trust us on this and give it a try before you knock it. >

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:22:04PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > I should change mail software just for the Mail-Followup-To: header? > > I should drop all the positive features of my current mailer (Netscape > Communicator 4) just to get automatic Mail-Followup-To: support? There's positive feat

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread jereme
Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there any chance that elimination of duplicate messages can be > done (relatively easily) with procmail? It hardly seams reasonable to ask others to filter on their end. That is like telling me to build a fence so your dog doesn't crap on my lawn...

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:02:46PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > >(By the way, where is that message header defined? I just searched > > >through all the IETF RfCs but couldn't find it.) > > > > Whatever the RFCs say, ... > > Wait a minute. You can't just start demanding arbitrary behavior o

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1922 +0100]: > > I should change mail software just for the Mail-Followup-To: header? > > > > I should drop all the positive features of my current mailer (Netscape > > Communicator 4) just to get automatic Mail-

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1902 +0100]: > > Well, someone could want list messages that are replies to them to show > > up in the their regular mailbox so they notice them quickly, and also > > want all list messages to show up in a mailbo

Re: [OT] More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > on Sun, 09 Feb 2003 01:02:46PM -0500, Daniel Barclay insinuated: > > Thorsten Haude wrote: > > > ... > > > However, I think the better approach is to lean back a moment and > > > think about it: Why would anyone want to have the reply twice? > > > > Well, someone could wa

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
Thorsten Haude wrote: > ... > But I don't. If you want to call it 'demand', I demand that you > *avoid* arbitrary behavior by adding addresses to your mails. What arbitrary behavior are you talking about? I'm not arbitrarily adding any addresses. If I use Netscape Communicator's Reply function

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.2242 +0100]: > fine, you win. but that person would have the *option* of not setting > the header to elicit the same effect from MUAs that do comply with the > Mailto-Followup header, right? yes. -- Please do not CC me when replying to

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:17:57PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: > also sprach Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1955 +0100]: > > then that person shouldn't set the Mailto-Followup header! > > actually, yes s/he should, just differently... ;^> > > http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.htm

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1955 +0100]: > then that person shouldn't set the Mailto-Followup header! actually, yes s/he should, just differently... ;^> http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! .''`.

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1912 +0100]: > ...to lists; I read them. This is a lot better. Thanks. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them. .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1922 +0100]: > I should change mail software just for the Mail-Followup-To: header? > > I should drop all the positive features of my current mailer (Netscape > Communicator 4) just to get automatic Mail-Followup-To: support? Nobody said

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.08.2146 +0100]: > > Mail-Followup-To: Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But how would you propose I do that? Do a "View Source" on every > message? How about a decent MUA that can do it automatically, like mutt (www.mutt.org)? > (By the

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.09.1902 +0100]: > Well, someone could want list messages that are replies to them to show > up in the their regular mailbox so they notice them quickly, and also > want all list messages to show up in a mailbox thatis specific to the > mailing

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2003-02-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sun, 09 Feb 2003 01:02:46PM -0500, Daniel Barclay insinuated: > Thorsten Haude wrote: > > ... > > However, I think the better approach is to lean back a moment and > > think about it: Why would anyone want to have the reply twice? > > Well, someone could want list messages that are replies to t

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:22:04PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:46:53PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > But how would you propose I do that? Do a "View Source" on every > > > message? > > > > Use a mailer that supports it automatically, like

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-09 19:02]: >Thorsten Haude wrote: >> However, I think the better >> approach is to lean back a moment and think about it: Why would anyone >> want to have the reply twice? > >Well, someone could want list messages that are replies to them to show >

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:46:53PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > ... follow his Mail-Followup-To: ... > > > But how would you propose I do that? Do a "View Source" on every > > message? > > Use a mailer that supports it automatically, lik

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
Martin, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.08.1934 +0100]: > > > > Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! > > > ... > > (I think your wording probably doesn't say what you mean.) > > How would you say it? Don't modify "lists" with

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
Thorsten Haude wrote: > ... > However, I think the better > approach is to lean back a moment and think about it: Why would anyone > want to have the reply twice? Well, someone could want list messages that are replies to them to show up in the their regular mailbox so they notice them quickly, an

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2003-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 06:43:06PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:34:29PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > martin f krafft wrote: > > > ... > > > Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! > > > > How are others supposed to know which lists you read (vs. which

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-09 Thread Jörg Roßdeutscher
Hi, On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 22:09, Sean Burlington wrote: > * When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a > carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request > to be copied. > > This is one of the things mutt is very good at (unfortunately I haven't >

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:46:53PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > ... > > You could always follow his Mail-Followup-To: header, which is designed > > for exactly this purpose: > > > > Mail-Followup-To: Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But how would you propose I do that?

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2003-02-08 Thread Brian Nelson
Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Colin Watson wrote: >> ... >> You could always follow his Mail-Followup-To: header, which is designed >> for exactly this purpose: >> >> Mail-Followup-To: Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But how would you propose I do that? Do a "View Source" on ever

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.08.1934 +0100]: > > Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! > > How are others supposed to know which lists you read (vs. which you > have just posted to)? (a) You see my name on these lists quite often (b) I might have repli

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-08 21:46]: >Colin Watson wrote: >> ... >> You could always follow his Mail-Followup-To: header, which is designed >> for exactly this purpose: >> >> Mail-Followup-To: Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >But how would you propose I do that? Do a "View

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread Sean Burlington
Daniel Barclay wrote: martin f krafft wrote: ... Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! How are others supposed to know which lists you read (vs. which you have just posted to)? http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Code of conduct When using the Debian mailing lists, plea

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread Daniel Barclay
Colin Watson wrote: > ... > You could always follow his Mail-Followup-To: header, which is designed > for exactly this purpose: > > Mail-Followup-To: Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But how would you propose I do that? Do a "View Source" on every message? (By the way, where is that message head

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:34:29PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > martin f krafft wrote: > > ... > > Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! > > How are others supposed to know which lists you read (vs. which you > have just posted to)? > > (I think your wording probably doesn't s

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-08 Thread Daniel Barclay
martin f krafft wrote: > ... > Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! How are others supposed to know which lists you read (vs. which you have just posted to)? (I think your wording probably doesn't say what you mean.) Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBS

More detailed post ...

2003-02-07 Thread Dave Selby
I either get Unmounting local filesystem ... done rebooting and all is AOK, or I get Unmounting filesystems ... and the system hangs !!!, ie no done !! My guess is it fails to unmount the file systems. my fstab is # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # #

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2003-02-04 Thread Dave Selby
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 1:53 am, Seneca wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 11:48:45PM +, Dave Selby wrote: > > wget looks good to me, it even resets the modem and re-dials if it is not > > getting the file > > > > Probarbly asking the earth ... There isn't a GUI wrapper for it ??? > >

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Seneca
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 11:48:45PM +, Dave Selby wrote: > wget looks good to me, it even resets the modem and re-dials if it is not > getting the file > > Probarbly asking the earth ... There isn't a GUI wrapper for it ??? Just do a reverse-depends check on wget in aptitude, I found two

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Dave Selby
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 11:08 pm, Seneca wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:34:04PM +, Dave Selby wrote: > > 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? > > If not can anyone recommend one ? > > Take a look at wget (I'm thinking of its options "-c" (continue a >

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Nick Hastings
* Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030205 07:52]: > OK Ive had a brainstorming session on how to do this, what I need to know is, > > 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If > not can anyone recommend one ? apt-get install wget wget -c http://whatever.you.want

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-05 00:08]: >>2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' reset string to my modem from the command line ? > >Just guessing, untested: >cat 'ATZ' > /dev/modem Doh. Not cat(1), it's echo(1). Thorsten -- Is there a suspect in your family? - Contact the Ministry

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.04.2334 +0100]: > 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If > not can anyone recommend one ? What kind of download? Regular HTTP? wget can resume HTTP and FTP. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists that

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.04.2334 +0100]: > 2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' reset string to my modem from the command line ? echo -e "ATZ\n" > /dev/modem -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :pr

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:34:04PM +, Dave Selby wrote: > OK Ive had a brainstorming session on how to do this, what I need to know is, > > 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If > not can anyone recommend one ? apt-get ;-) > 2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' rese

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Seneca
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:34:04PM +, Dave Selby wrote: > 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If > not can anyone recommend one ? Take a look at wget (I'm thinking of its options "-c" (continue a previous partial download) and "-t" (retries)). > 2. How do

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Kent West
Dave Selby wrote: OK Ive had a brainstorming session on how to do this, what I need to know is, 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If not can anyone recommend one ? Not sure what you mean? wget? 2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' reset string to my modem from th

Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-04 23:34]: >1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If >not can anyone recommend one ? The thing usually recommended is wget(1). >2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' reset string to my modem from the command line ? Just guess

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2003-02-04 Thread Dave Selby
OK Ive had a brainstorming session on how to do this, what I need to know is, 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If not can anyone recommend one ? 2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' reset string to my modem from the command line ? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to