Re: More Xorg (SOLVED)

2010-03-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, > Great! That obviously means that the new driver now has support for > your board/chipset, which means that we no longer have to resort to Overrides aren't ideal, IMO. Mainly because I forget I've set them, and the

Re: More Xorg (SOLVED)

2010-03-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:52:57 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:30:01 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> But we are making forward progress; so I don't want to give up just >> yet. > > Thanks for you help Stephen. Today I performed a system update and > noticed that XOrg's

Re: More Xorg (SOLVED)

2010-03-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, > But we are making forward progress; so I don't want to give up just > yet. Thanks for you help Stephen. Today I performed a system update and noticed that XOrg's nv driver was one of the packages updated. My scree

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:19:40 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> You're welcome, but I am disappointed too. I'm curious to know what >> the failure symptom was. Did it complain that the chipset override was >> invalid? Or did it accept the chipset override but fail to init

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, > You're welcome, but I am disappointed too. I'm curious to know what So, it's not just me then? :-) > the failure symptom was. Did it complain that the chipset override was The error message was unsupported de

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:10:00 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:43:21 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >>Chipset "GeForce 8300 GS" >> in the "Device" section. I have no idea if it will work. It's a shot >> in the dark. > > Sadly, no joy with that option, either. > >

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:20:26 -0400 (EDT), Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue,16.Mar.10, 13:56:27, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> Maybe one of these days, when I feel more adventuresome, I may give >> this a try myself. I have two systems at home with Nvidia video cards. >> The trouble is, they're OLD Nv

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, >Chipset "GeForce 8300 GS" > in the "Device" section. I have no idea if it will work. It's a shot > in the dark. Sadly, no joy with that option, either. Once again, Stephen, thank you for all your assistance.

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,16.Mar.10, 13:56:27, Stephen Powell wrote: > > Maybe one of these days, when I feel more adventuresome, I may give > this a try myself. I have two systems at home with Nvidia video cards. > The trouble is, they're OLD Nvidia cards. The proprietary driver > may have dropped support for the

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:38:07 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: >>Chipset "G80" >> in the "Device" section might work. I'm not making any promises. > > Unfortunately, it didn't, but thanks for the tip. > >> If it doesn't, look in /v

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-16 14:30, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-03-16 17:29 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: That's the beauty of compiling my own kernel from linux-source-2.6.xx and installing nvidia from upstream: for months on end, I've got a stable kernel and video. Using Sid does mean, though, that occasionall

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-03-16 21:59 +0100, Wayne wrote: > Just tried to install the source package. listbugs reports that it > has 2 bugs. > > 1. It won't compile > and > 2. bad attempt to nest fakeroot sessions. > > Testing on a 686. > > Just one more package, of many, that got to testing too fast. You got it

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:34:45 +0100 Sven Joachim wrote: Hello Sven, > If you run squeeze, you need to install the nvidia-* versions from sid. > I don't know why the nvidia-graphics-drivers source package had not > been removed from testing months ago, as it's utterly broken there (the > missing n

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Wayne
Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:07:37 +0100 Sven Joachim wrote: Hello Sven, Why not use nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source from non-free which _are_ available as regular Debian packages? They do not suffer from the problems that you describe here. I actually looked into installi

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-03-16 19:39 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:07:37 +0100 > Sven Joachim wrote: > > Hello Sven, > >> Why not use nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source from non-free which >> _are_ available as regular Debian packages? They do not suffer from >> the problems that you descri

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:20:28 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > > Thanks, Stephen. That's very kind of you. I've changed the subject > > header, and removed references, so this should appear as a new > > thread; We'

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:07:37 +0100 Sven Joachim wrote: Hello Sven, > Why not use nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source from non-free which > _are_ available as regular Debian packages? They do not suffer from > the problems that you describe here. I actually looked into installing them, but the

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-03-16 17:29 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: > That's the beauty of compiling my own kernel from linux-source-2.6.xx > and installing nvidia from upstream: for months on end, I've got a > stable kernel and video. > > Using Sid does mean, though, that occasionally I must go into > /usr/lib/xorg/mo

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Mark Allums schreef: On 3/16/2010 11:42 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: Why not use nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source from non-free which _are_ available as regular Debian packages? They do not suffer from the problems that you describe here. They suffer from other problems. The main one being t

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:42:15 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-03-16 17:14 +0100, Mark Allums wrote: >> >> They suffer from other problems. The main one being that they are >> usually uninstallable. At least, in my experience, >> apt/aptitude/Synaptic refuse to install it. > > Because t

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/16/2010 11:42 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: Why not use nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source from non-free which _are_ available as regular Debian packages? They do not suffer from the problems that you describe here. They suffer from other problems. The main one being that they are usually uni

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-03-16 17:14 +0100, Mark Allums wrote: > On 3/16/2010 11:07 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2010-03-16 16:35 +0100, Mark Allums wrote: > >>> A real problem is that Debian is not compatible with the proprietary >>> driver. Routine system maintenance overwrites files and ruins >>> configuratio

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-16 09:46, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:20:13 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-15 22:08, Stephen Powell wrote: Another possibility is to install the xserver-xorg-video-nv package from unstable, which is newer and *might* support your chipset. Or the (what's t

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/16/2010 11:07 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-03-16 16:35 +0100, Mark Allums wrote: A real problem is that Debian is not compatible with the proprietary driver. Routine system maintenance overwrites files and ruins configurations, requiring reconfiguration. The proprietary driver is not

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-03-16 16:35 +0100, Mark Allums wrote: > On 3/16/2010 9:46 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> Yes, the proprietary nvidia binary driver is another possibility. It's >> great when it works, but it breaks often with maintenance to X or >> the kernel. > > It always requires reinstalling with kernel

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/16/2010 9:46 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: Yes, the proprietary nvidia binary driver is another possibility. It's great when it works, but it breaks often with maintenance to X or the kernel. It always requires reinstalling with kernel ABI changes, because it requires a kernel module compile

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:20:13 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-15 22:08, Stephen Powell wrote: >> Another possibility >> is to install the xserver-xorg-video-nv package from unstable, which >> is newer and *might* support your chipset. > > Or the (what's that hissing noise coming from B

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-15 22:08, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:20:28 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: [snip] (WW) NV: Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0848 (C77 [GeForce 8300]) at 0...@00:00:0 ... The above is the most important entry in the log file. You have an unsupported chipset. Th

Re: More Xorg

2010-03-15 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:20:28 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:48:46 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> If you will provide the following information, I'll be glad to take >> a look at it for you. > > Thanks, Stephen. That's very kind of you. I've changed the subject >

More xorg problems

2006-06-06 Thread Wayne Topa
It seems that there are a varity of xorg problems being reported with the new testing upgrades. I am _not_ having the same problems as others so thought I would report them here. 1. startx, as root, works as it should 2. startx as any other user: When I first tried I kept getting this error