Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-05 Thread Mark Crean
On Friday 05 May 2006 00:37, Bill Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 4 May 2006 15:37:58 +0100 > [snip] > It has been said many times; If you can not afford to deal with problem > like this DO NOT use unstable. From the comments above I can only > assume that you do not understand the Debian release method

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Joey Hess
Toshiro wrote: > Well, that's what you say, but the fact is that all the major problems I've > ever experienced with sid were always related to x-server; their performance > looks very poor to me. This just indicates that you haven't used sid long enough. After you've used it ten years, you will

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 04:50:10PM -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 04 May 2006 12:41:11 -0300 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't think we should blame all Debian developers. The only real > > problems I've had with sid were related to x-server; all other parts > > of Debian are roc

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread hendrik
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:15:09PM -0300, Toshiro wrote: > > > I don't think we should blame all Debian developers. The only real > > > problems I've had with sid were related to x-server; all other parts > > > of Debian are rock solid. Maybe the x-server Debian maintainers are > > > new/unexperien

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Toshiro
> > I don't think we should blame all Debian developers. The only real > > problems I've had with sid were related to x-server; all other parts > > of Debian are rock solid. Maybe the x-server Debian maintainers are > > new/unexperienced in that task? > > The Debian X Strike Force are much older, c

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Thompson
On Thu, 04 May 2006 12:41:11 -0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't think we should blame all Debian developers. The only real > problems I've had with sid were related to x-server; all other parts > of Debian are rock solid. Maybe the x-server Debian maintainers are > new/unexperienced in

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Thompson
On Thu, 4 May 2006 15:37:58 +0100 Mark Crean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just my 2 cents but I am getting a little desperate at the number of > bog ups in Unstable at the moment. I don't want to leave the platform > but if things continue like this I will have to. Like many folks > perhaps, I am

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Michael M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my 2 cents but I am getting a little desperate at the number of bog ups in Unstable at the moment. I don't want to leave the platform but if things continue like this I will have to. Like many folks perhaps, I am completely baffled by Debian's reluctance to get t

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 5/4/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First of all, I have now looked into this a bit more; I also read the bug reports which I mentioned in my earlier post in more detail. There are two nicer ways to fix this problem: a) /etc/X11/Xsession.xfree86 is in fact /etc/X11/Xsession fro

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 04 May 2006 22:25, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:39:29 -0700, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > On 5/4/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:55 -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: > > >> I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:39:29 -0700, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > On 5/4/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:55 -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: > >> I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg > >packages > >> were available to be upgraded.

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 5/4/06, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:55 -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: > I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg packages > were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the upgrades. > > I use kdm as my login displa

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Joris Huizer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think we should blame all Debian developers. The only real problems I've had with sid were related to x-server; all other parts of Debian are rock solid. Maybe the x-server Debian maintainers are new/unexperienced in that task? Managing something as

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread toshiro
> I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg > packages were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the > upgrades. > > I use kdm as my login display manager. After the upgrade, X started fine. > However, when any user would try to login, the screen would go bl

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread hendrik
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 03:37:58PM +0100, Mark Crean wrote: > On Thursday 04 May 2006 13:52, Rick Friedman wrote: > > I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg > > packages were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the > > upgrades. > > > > I use kdm as my lo

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:01:14 -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: > On Thu May 4 2006 10:01, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > I had the same problem this morning. I could not spend too much time on > > investigating it, but it seems to me that there is some sort of > > dependency loop which screws up the insta

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Friedman
On Thu May 4 2006 10:01, Florian Kulzer wrote: > I had the same problem this morning. I could not spend too much time on > investigating it, but it seems to me that there is some sort of > dependency loop which screws up the installation of the new version of > x11-common. I extracted /etc/X11/Xses

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Clive Menzies
On (04/05/06 15:37), Mark Crean wrote: > On Thursday 04 May 2006 13:52, Rick Friedman wrote: > > I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg > > packages were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the > > upgrades. > > > > I use kdm as my login display manager.

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Crean
On Thursday 04 May 2006 13:52, Rick Friedman wrote: > I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg > packages were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the > upgrades. > > I use kdm as my login display manager. After the upgrade, X started fine. > However, when

Re: More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:52:55 -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: > I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg packages > were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the upgrades. > > I use kdm as my login display manager. After the upgrade, X started fine. > Howe

More X Problems Today

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Friedman
I'm running Debian Sid. This morning, I saw that quite a few X/Xorg packages were available to be upgraded. So, I went ahead and did the upgrades. I use kdm as my login display manager. After the upgrade, X started fine. However, when any user would try to login, the screen would go black momen