Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-06 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 08:18:29 +0200 wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 10:07:20AM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > > Hellow, > > > > Celejar writes: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > > > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spa

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-06 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 11:31:29 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > On 06.04.2021 01:14, Celejar wrote: > >> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 > >> Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Because it doesn't work. If it worked as well as, say, moving your > >> SSH port*, I would encourage it. It does not. > > S

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-06 Thread David
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 16:18, wrote: > Personally, I think that Gmail is bad, because it not only > harvests your data (you gave them your permission), but also > mine (I didn't ;-) Hi all, I completely agree with this statement, for private email. It is an excellent point. Whereas when subscribi

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 06.04.2021 01:14, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: Because it doesn't work. If it worked as well as, say, moving your SSH port*, I would encourage it. It does not. Source? Is this your personal experience, or do you have some other basis for this? Cloudfla

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 10:07:20AM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > Hellow, > > Celejar writes: > > > Hi, > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud > > bots? > > Personally i use Gmail. That is all.

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 05 Apr 2021 21:31:16 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I use some GMX accounts, and they apparently don't support plus > > addressing (I just tried, and the message was refused with "550 > > Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable."). I suppose it would be > > nice if they did suppo

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I use some GMX accounts, and they apparently don't support plus > addressing (I just tried, and the message was refused with "550 > Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable."). I suppose it would be > nice if they did support it, but I can't really fault them for not > supporting a non-sta

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread 황병희
Hellow, Celejar writes: > Hi, > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud > bots? Personally i use Gmail. That is all. Thanks for reading my thought ^^^ Sincerely, Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _和合團結

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 19:39:43 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting hold of an address > > > > a logical part of a defense in depth strategy? > > > > > > Because it do

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 20:18 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 19:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > With experiences like that, you should be already well on your way to > > taking care of this: > > > > https://www.spamhaus.org/css/removal/record/2600:3c03::f

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 19:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > With experiences like that, you should be already well on your way to > taking care of this: > > https://www.spamhaus.org/css/removal/record/2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe25:c4ae > > Your emails keep going into Spam/Bulk fol

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 19:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting hold of an address > > > > a logical part of a defense in depth strategy? > > > > > > Because it doe

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting hold of an address > > > a logical part of a defense in depth strategy? > > > > Because it doesn't work. If it worked as well as, say, moving > > your SSH port*, I

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 05 Apr 2021 16:50:30 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > Celejar [2021-04-05 14:49:15] wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Celejar wrote: > >> > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > >> > address on the web while avoiding hav

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 21:57:50 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:10:05 -0400 > Celejar wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 20:36:39 +0100 > > Joe wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:49:15 -0400 > > > Celejar wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting h

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 04:14:52PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Celejar wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 > > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > Celejar wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > What's the recommended modern b

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Joe
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:10:05 -0400 Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 20:36:39 +0100 > Joe wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:49:15 -0400 > > Celejar wrote: > > > > > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting hold of an > > > address a logical part of a defense in depth strategy

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
Celejar [2021-04-05 14:49:15] wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: >> Celejar wrote: >> > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email >> > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud >> > bots? >> Assume that every addres

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Celejar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > > > > address on the web while avoid

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 20:36:39 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:49:15 -0400 > Celejar wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Celejar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact > > > > em

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Celejar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > > > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud > > > bots? > > > > Assume that e

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Joe
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:49:15 -0400 Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Celejar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact > > > email address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam > > >

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 02:49:15PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Celejar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > > > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam /

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud > > bots? > > Assume that every address will be hit by spammers a

Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud > bots? Assume that every address will be hit by spammers and scammers. Put in appropriate antispam and antimalware precautions.

Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

2021-04-05 Thread Celejar
Hi, What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud bots? I'm aware of many of the techniques in use, such as the ones discussed here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23002711/how-to-show-email-addres