Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Feb 2022 at 19:28:48 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 14 feb 22, 17:23:52, David Wright wrote: > > > On 2/14/2022 10:19 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > > > > > Not sure about the Debian installer (except that it does boot and > > > > run Linux, but not sure it ever switches to

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-16 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 2/16/22, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 06:45:15PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:59:37 PM EST Stefan Monnier wrote: >> > > Yes, "infected" floppy disks were a thing. There really wasn't any >> > > way to make money off viruses, though. >> > >

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 06:45:15PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:59:37 PM EST Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Yes, "infected" floppy disks were a thing. There really wasn't any > > > way to make money off viruses, though. > > > > I think McAffe would disagree. > > > So

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:59:37 PM EST Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Yes, "infected" floppy disks were a thing. There really wasn't any > > way to make money off viruses, though. > > I think McAffe would disagree. > Sorry, but that spammer is so disagreable that he would yell insults at the g

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Andrei writes: > DOS was both very limited in capabilities and didn't implement any > kind of access control or similar. It *couldn't*. The 8088/8086 lacked the hardware. > This was probably the best breeding ground for computer viruses the > bad guys could ever hope for, as they could "infect"

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 15 feb 22, 12:41:28, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > When it loads a kernel or chain-loads another boot-loader it basically > > hands over control completely, > > Which is what DOS does. That was possibly not the best choice of words from my side. DOS was both very limite

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Andrei POPESCU writes: > When it loads a kernel or chain-loads another boot-loader it basically > hands over control completely, Which is what DOS does. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 feb 22, 17:23:52, David Wright wrote: > > On 2/14/2022 10:19 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > > > Not sure about the Debian installer (except that it does boot and > > > run Linux, but not sure it ever switches to another kernel > > > midway), but the Grub bootloader is kind of a mini-

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-15, David wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 10:24, David Wright wrote: > >> Effectively, Grub has two shells, Grub> and Grub rescue>, depending on >> whether the "normal" module has been loaded, and about the only thing >> you can sensibly do without normal is to find it and insmod it. >

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-14 Thread David
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 10:24, David Wright wrote: > Effectively, Grub has two shells, Grub> and Grub rescue>, depending on > whether the "normal" module has been loaded, and about the only thing > you can sensibly do without normal is to find it and insmod it. > But most people will never see re

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Feb 2022 at 12:13:20 (-0500), Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 2/14/2022 10:19 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On 2022-02-14 10:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I think I did mis-remember this, and the behavior I described > > > is more like the > > > behavior of the Debian installer (i.e.,

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/14/2022 10:19 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On 2022-02-14 10:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I think I did mis-remember this, and the behavior I described is more like the behavior of the Debian installer (i.e., it boots an image (with a Linux kernel)  into RAM to use temporarily for the instal

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-14 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-02-14 10:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I think I did mis-remember this, and the behavior I described is more like the behavior of the Debian installer (i.e., it boots an image (with a Linux kernel) into RAM to use temporarily for the installation. I just wanted to try to correct this fo

Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-14 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, February 12, 2022 09:04:50 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > The way I understand it (but I may be misremembering), grub temporaily > boots into a, well I'll say restricted Linux kernel and OS which is used > by grub until it boots up the main system. The kernel used in grub may > not (p