Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-27 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 05:05:22PM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > > This would make a negative number of memory usage shortly after > > starting the X server :) > > Doh! Wouldn't that be cool though :) ja :) Start many X Servers to get unlimited amounts of memory for free! > > > That doesn't mea

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 17:44, Pigeon wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:19:14PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 07:37, Pigeon wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 03:03:10AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:42, Pigeon wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 20

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-26 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:19:14PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 07:37, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 03:03:10AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:42, Pigeon wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > >

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-26 Thread Jason McCarty
Hans Wilmer wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:18:46PM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > > > > Well, it does :) What is the difference between 'cached' and > > > 'buffers'? I wanted to know that since long, but never found out. > > > > Well, after digging through the kernel sources (such fun!), I th

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 07:37, Pigeon wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 03:03:10AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:42, Pigeon wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:21:12PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > [snip] > >

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-26 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 03:03:10AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:42, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:21:12PM +, Pigeon wrote: > [snip] > > Now, I have a UDMA66 HD, which on buffered disk read

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-26 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:18:46PM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > > Well, it does :) What is the difference between 'cached' and > > 'buffers'? I wanted to know that since long, but never found out. > > Well, after digging through the kernel sources (such fun!), I think I > figured that out. "cach

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 21:42, Pigeon wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:21:12PM +, Pigeon wrote: [snip] > Now, I have a UDMA66 HD, which on buffered disk reads in hdparm -t > gives rates of about 28Mb/s, both with the onboard VIA

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-25 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:56AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:21:12PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On a sort of related point... writing a CD (at 28x), top shows 80-85% > > system CPU usage. That's with an Athlon 1800XP (1.53GHz). Feeling the > > heatsink, however, it's run

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-25 Thread nate
Hans Wilmer said: > It almost looks as if the X server had a serious memory leak. Is there an > explanation for its enormous memory allocation? most of it is due to the video memory on your card, X includes that in the "memory usage". Another is memory leaks depending on what you run. Much of th

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-25 Thread Jason McCarty
Hans Wilmer wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:27:08AM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > > > Hope this interests somebody besides myself ;) > > Well, it does :) What is the difference between 'cached' and > 'buffers'? I wanted to know that since long, but never found out. Well, after digging throug

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-25 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:27:08AM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > Hope this interests somebody besides myself ;) Well, it does :) What is the difference between 'cached' and 'buffers'? I wanted to know that since long, but never found out. What wonders me it the memory usage of Xfree86. It seems

Re: CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:21:12PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On a sort of related point... writing a CD (at 28x), top shows 80-85% > system CPU usage. That's with an Athlon 1800XP (1.53GHz). Feeling the > heatsink, however, it's running as cool as it usually does. I reckon > this must be because it's

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Jason McCarty
Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:53:19PM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > > So, I understand the output of "free" and all that, but can anyone > > explain the behavior shown below? This after my computer has been up for > > a couple hours, doing very little. It usually shows this behav

CPU usage on debian (was: Re: Memory usage on debian)

2003-01-24 Thread Pigeon
On a sort of related point... writing a CD (at 28x), top shows 80-85% system CPU usage. That's with an Athlon 1800XP (1.53GHz). Feeling the heatsink, however, it's running as cool as it usually does. I reckon this must be because it's spending lots of time waiting on the IDE bus. Pigeon -- To U

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Isaac To
> "Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > quaternion:~$ free >total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem:256104 251680 4424 0 67536 66640 > -/+ buffers/cache: 117504 138600 > Swap:

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:53:19PM -0500, Jason McCarty wrote: > So, I understand the output of "free" and all that, but can anyone > explain the behavior shown below? This after my computer has been up for > a couple hours, doing very little. It usually shows this behavior, > especially if I've ru

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Jason McCarty
So, I understand the output of "free" and all that, but can anyone explain the behavior shown below? This after my computer has been up for a couple hours, doing very little. It usually shows this behavior, especially if I've run a lot of programs first. It seems like memory is being reclaimed from

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:30:56PM +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote: > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. Maybe the memory is used for the disk cache/cache buffers --- free and top can display that. Afair, it's possib

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:30:56PM +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote: > Hi > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. What does it say when you type free? -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admi

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 07:08:54PM +0100, Michael Naumann wrote: > of your memory, then that is no reason to worry. Your kernel > simply uses free memory to cache the files you already read. > This memory area can be viewed as beeing free. If you just came from the Windos world, think of the cache

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On 23 Jan 2003 16:30:56 +0100 Nils-Erik Svangård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. I'm willing to bet without looking at the output of top or free that most of the RAM usage is by buf

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
This is a FAQ, regardless of distro. Run top. Type uppercase M. This sorts by memory usage. Also look at fourth and fifth lines from the top. This give your memory usage. The free number is the amount of unused memory. It does not include the amount used for buffers (fourth line, far right) o

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 06:20:22PM +0100, Charlie Imbusch wrote: > As far as I know Linux in general tries to use a lot of your ram to > achieve best performance. It buffers data which have already been read > from your hdd, for the case that these data are requested again. > I hope it's not non-se

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:30:56PM +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote: > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. > Can anyone figure out what to do this could be a kernel issue or > something? It's normal. You didn't say whe

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Nils-Erik Svangård" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. > Can anyone figure out what to do this could be a kernel issue or > something? Linux uses unused memory for a disk cache. This is

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Michael Naumann
On Thursday 23 January 2003 16:30, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote: > Hi > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. > Can anyone figure out what to do this could be a kernel issue or > something? > I use kernel 2.4.21-pre1 What ma

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Charlie Imbusch
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:30:18 +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote: > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. Can anyone figure out what > to do this could be a kernel issue or something? I use kernel > 2.4.21-pre1 As far as I

Re: Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:30:56PM +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote: > My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent > show which process that eats all the memory. > > Can anyone figure out what to do this could be a kernel issue or > something? so here you've got 512mb of r

Memory usage on debian

2003-01-23 Thread Nils-Erik Svangård
Hi My system use about 95% of my 512 mb ram, but ps aux and top doesent show which process that eats all the memory. Can anyone figure out what to do this could be a kernel issue or something? I use kernel 2.4.21-pre1 Here is the output of ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT S