Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-25 Thread Matteo Riva
Quoting Chris Jones: > That sounds rather suspicious: Just clicking on Preferences causing a > crash is something that everybody would spot right away. It's not like > some hidden option in some obscure dialog that hardly anybody uses. Did > you google or search bug reports re: this crash? May hav

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-25 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:45:45 -0500 Chris Jones dijo: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:22:51PM EST, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:43 -0500 > > Chris Jones dijo: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:23:16PM EST, Rob Owens wrote: > > [..] Trimming useful details re; the insta

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:22:51PM EST, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:43 -0500 > Chris Jones dijo: > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:23:16PM EST, Rob Owens wrote: [..] Trimming useful details re; the install - all sensible choices I'm glad you went to the trouble of descri

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:43 -0500 Chris Jones dijo: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:23:16PM EST, Rob Owens wrote: > > [..] > > > Somebody else mentioned it already, but I'll second it: it is important > > to remove/rename the .gnome, .gconf, etc. files while not logged into > > Gnome. In my exp

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:23:16PM EST, Rob Owens wrote: [..] > Somebody else mentioned it already, but I'll second it: it is important > to remove/rename the .gnome, .gconf, etc. files while not logged into > Gnome. In my experience they are written at logout from your Gnome > session, so your

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:13:14PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:10:06 -0500 > Rob Owens dijo: > > > In most window managers that I've used, Alt-F2 will open a "run" dialog > > box. Type into that "gnome-terminal". > > > > Also, you can delete your .gnome* and .gconf*

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-23 23:13:14, John Jason Jordan wrote: ... > Conclusion: The problem is somewhere in my configuration files, but > not in .gconf, .gnome2 or .gnome2_private. ... What about .gconfd/ and .gnome/? (And all the other dot-files.) Have you looked at ~/.xsession-errors? (It gets made anew e

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:13:14PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: [... huge snip of history of metacity & gnome panel faiilng to start ... ] > Tony suggested polluting my new user alter ego with the gnome > configuration files from my regular self. I started by just > renaming .gconf, .gnome2 and

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-24 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13:14PM EST, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:10:06 -0500 > Rob Owens dijo: > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:14:23PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: [..] I just noticed this thread, so please ignore if you have already been through this. > Tony sugge

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:10:06 -0500 Rob Owens dijo: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:14:23PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:50:52 -0800 > > John Jason Jordan dijo: > > > > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:53:56 -0500 > > > Tony Nelson dijo: > > > > > > > On 09-11-23 13:31:14, J

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:14:23PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:50:52 -0800 > John Jason Jordan dijo: > > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:53:56 -0500 > > Tony Nelson dijo: > > > > > On 09-11-23 13:31:14, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > ... > > > > 1) How can I fix Gnome? Wh

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
I see you've made progress elsewhere in this thread, so just a couple of points below... On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:36:42PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:30:08 -0800 > Andrew Sackville-West dijo: [...] > > > I'm wondering if you're somehow changing the default selectio

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:50:52 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:53:56 -0500 > Tony Nelson dijo: > > > On 09-11-23 13:31:14, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > ... > > > 1) How can I fix Gnome? What part of the configuration starts > > > metacity and gnome-panel when the user log

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-23 15:50:52, John Jason Jordan wrote: ... > The only thing I can think of is that Nautilus has a bug where > clicking on Preferences crashes it, so I used gconf-editor to change > the way Nautilus works. I could go back and set Nautilus to defaults > (I think there is an option somewher

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:53:56 -0500 Tony Nelson dijo: > On 09-11-23 13:31:14, John Jason Jordan wrote: > ... > > 1) How can I fix Gnome? What part of the configuration starts > > metacity and gnome-panel when the user logs in? Note that I'll have > > to do this manually from XFCE, because I can

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:30:08 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West dijo: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:31:14AM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > couple problems left to resolve. Then I decided to reboot. And then it > > happened again - no metacity or gnome panel. Only this time I couldn't > > right-clic

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-23 13:31:14, John Jason Jordan wrote: ... > 1) How can I fix Gnome? What part of the configuration starts > metacity and gnome-panel when the user logs in? Note that I'll have > to do this manually from XFCE, because I can't even get a terminal > running in Gnome. Try creating a new u

Re: Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:31:14AM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: [...] > That day arrived a few days ago. I decided start over from scratch. I > used the netinst CD and reinstalled completely, reformatting the new > disk. Until yesterday afternoon I spent my time installing and > configuring as

Lost window manager and gnome-panel

2009-11-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
About a month ago I installed testing amd64 on a brand new hard disk for my Thinkpad, planning on migrating from Jaunty to Debian. I kept my old Jaunty hard disk untouched. I used the Jaunty disk as a source of config files as I installed the applications I need, plus I wanted it available just in