Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-03-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 02 mar 20, 12:11:38, David Wright wrote: > > I think the scope for misinterpretation comes from the language used. > (Ironic here…) "Please choose which locales to generate" focuses, for > some reason, on the process of reaching a state, rather than the state > t

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-03-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Mar 2020 at 08:40:34 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 08:26:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > Now the first question was "Please choose which locales to generate." > > As it happens, I don't need to *generate* any, b

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-03-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 08:26:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Now the first question was "Please choose which locales to generate." > As it happens, I don't need to *generate* any, because I selected > en_US.UTF-8 at installation time. *sigh* When you run dpkg-r

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread David Wright
gt; > (use none if you access the host through SSH) or 'C.UTF-8." > > > > And the fact that in dpkg-reconfigure locales, I didn't see the option > > for C.UTF-8. > > You are asked first which locales to generate, then which to use per > default. > >

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
; > And the fact that in dpkg-reconfigure locales, I didn't see the option > for C.UTF-8. You are asked first which locales to generate, then which to use per default. There's nothing to _generate_ for C.UTF-8 so you won't find it in first dialog, only in second. - Jonas

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Ted Baker
Thanks, I was referring to john doe's earlier comment "In other words, one language needs to be selected in order to be able to choose 'none' (use none if you access the host through SSH) or 'C.UTF-8." And the fact that in dpkg-reconfigure locales, I didn'

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 04:10:54PM -0500, Ted Baker wrote: > So C.UTF-8 in itself does not count as a valid locale, and I have to add > something like en_US.UTF-8? This is debian-user, so the answer is "it's valid in Debian". You can tell because it shows up in the output of "locale -a". For a m

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Ted Baker
ote: > >> > >> You should use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'. > >> > > > > I actually tried `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales`, but C.UTF-8 is not > even > > $ DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text dpkg-reconfigure locales > Configuring locales > ---

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Shanbin Zhao
> > I've no idea about the answer to that, but I am interested about > how you ascertained the parental relationship. > I used `ps flax`. Output from the `pstree` command Greg mentioned looks nicer.

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 01:55:12PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Like G.W. Haywood, I run fvwm with All of the cool people do! :r !pstree systemd-+-acpid |-login---bash---startx---xinit-+-Xorg---3*[{Xorg}] | `-fvwm-+-FvwmAnimate |

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Feb 2020 at 11:21:35 (-0500), Ted Baker wrote: > > > > In GNOME, terminals are not children of the window manager, or even of > > the session manager. When you ask for a terminal, GNOME sends a letter > > to dbus, asking dbus to please make a terminal. Your gnome-terminal > > is a child

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 28, 2020 12:55:38 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > Whatever it is that you wanted to know. Thanks for your reply! What I wanted to know is whether KDE had the same problem that you perceived with GNOME (without fully understanding the details or ramifications of the problem). At s

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:32:00PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, February 28, 2020 11:09:23 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:00:58AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Do you (or does anyone else) know if KDE works in a manner similar to > > > GNOME, or is

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 28, 2020 11:09:23 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:00:58AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Do you (or does anyone else) know if KDE works in a manner similar to > > GNOME, or is it more like the traditional X11 setup? > > If you're actually using KDE, y

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:21:35AM -0500, Ted Baker wrote: > so in my terminal, I can see the parental relationship is, > > init -> systemd --user -> gnome-terminal-server -> bash > where init is /usr/lib/systemd > > how do these three processes fit into your dbus description? Who knows? It's a

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Ted Baker
> > In GNOME, terminals are not children of the window manager, or even of > the session manager. When you ask for a terminal, GNOME sends a letter > to dbus, asking dbus to please make a terminal. Your gnome-terminal > is a child of dbus, and inherits its environment from dbus. > > You do not ge

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:00:58AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Do you (or does anyone else) know if KDE works in a manner similar to GNOME, > or is it more like the traditional X11 setup? If you're actually using KDE, you could find out for yourself by trying it and seeing what happens. G

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 28, 2020 09:35:36 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > In a traditional X11 setup, your session is a hierarchy of processes, > with the window manager (or session manager) as the parent/root of > the hierarchy. Every process is a descendant of the window manager, > and inherits its enviro

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In GNOME, terminals are not children of the window manager, or even of > the session manager. When you ask for a terminal, GNOME sends a letter > to dbus, asking dbus to please make a terminal. Your gnome-terminal > is a child of dbus, and inherits its environment from dbus. Is that how `gnome

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread john doe
On 2/28/2020 3:34 PM, Ted Baker wrote: >> >> You should use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'. >> > > I actually tried `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales`, but C.UTF-8 is not even $ DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text dpkg-reconfigure locales Configuring locales ---

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
hing. > > > > hmm. I am trying to understand what GNOME does under the hood, in this > case, if possible. Right now, console (ctl+alt+F3) and gnome terminal gives > different locales, I would like to fix that :) In a traditional X11 setup, your session is a hierarchy of processes, with t

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Ted Baker
> > You should use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'. > I actually tried `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales`, but C.UTF-8 is not even on the list, so I can only remove en_US.UTF-8 there. Then I did `sudo update-locale LANG=C.UTF-8`. As far as I know, these steps basically modifies /e

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Ted Baker
e, if possible. Right now, console (ctl+alt+F3) and gnome terminal gives different locales, I would like to fix that :)

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 07:01:31AM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 2/28/2020 6:55 AM, john doe wrote: > > On 2/28/2020 2:07 AM, Ted Baker wrote: > >> I updated /etc/default/locale, LANG=C.UTF-8, then reboot. > >> > > > > You should use 'dpkg-reconfigure loca

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-27 Thread john doe
On 2/28/2020 6:55 AM, john doe wrote: > On 2/28/2020 2:07 AM, Ted Baker wrote: >> I updated /etc/default/locale, LANG=C.UTF-8, then reboot. >> > > You should use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Locale > Also the language in Gnome

Re: set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-27 Thread john doe
On 2/28/2020 2:07 AM, Ted Baker wrote: > I updated /etc/default/locale, LANG=C.UTF-8, then reboot. > You should use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'. https://wiki.debian.org/Locale -- John Doe

set gnome locales to C.UTF-8

2020-02-27 Thread Ted Baker
/etc/systemd/user/ ~/.config/systemd/user/ I also searched in dconf-editor, and changed org.gnome.system.location from custom value en_US.UTF-8 to default. Doesn't help. Any reference/links about how systemd/gnome environment variable works, and information about locales will be appreciated. Ted

Re: Locales don't work in chroot sid

2018-12-02 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 12/2/18 2:41 PM, Tommi Höynälänmaa wrote: > I have just installed sid to a chroot. Locales don't work even though I have > installed package locales. Scandinavian letters are not displayed and guile > gives the following warning: > > ---cut here--- > > guile:

Locales don't work in chroot sid

2018-12-02 Thread Tommi Höynälänmaa
I have just installed sid to a chroot. Locales don't work even though I have installed package locales. Scandinavian letters are not displayed and guile gives the following warning: ---cut here--- guile: warning: failed to install locale warning: failed to install locale: Invalid arg

Re: Locales

2017-02-06 Thread Alessandro T.
On 06/02/2017 07:53, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Alessandro T. [2017-02-05 22:10:55+01] wrote: > >> Isn't localization set by locale? > I have not followed this thread closely but will just point that > nowadays it's probably good idea to set locales with "localect

Re: Locales

2017-02-05 Thread tomas
owadays it's probably good idea to set locales with "localectl". That > command will write the changes to the right files. Examples from my > system: > > localectl set-locale LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C > > localectl set-x11-keymap fi pc105 ""

Locales

2017-02-05 Thread Teemu Likonen
Alessandro T. [2017-02-05 22:10:55+01] wrote: > Isn't localization set by locale? I have not followed this thread closely but will just point that nowadays it's probably good idea to set locales with "localectl". That command will write the changes to the right files.

Re: Locales, Keyboard Layouts

2016-06-15 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-06-10, Levi S. Darrell wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 11:31:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> >> I would have thought that you would put XKBLAYOUT="fr,latam" in your >> /etc/default/keyboard which gives you deadkeys by default. That's >> for X itself (I know nothing about LXDE) but al

Re: Locales, Keyboard Layouts

2016-06-10 Thread Levi S. Darrell
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 11:31:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > I would have thought that you would put XKBLAYOUT="fr,latam" > in your /etc/default/keyboard which gives you deadkeys by default. > That's for X itself (I know nothing about LXDE) but also the VCs. > > dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-con

Re: Locales, Keyboard Layouts

2016-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2016 at 10:56:44 (-0600), Levi Darrell wrote: > I am using the lxde desktop environment with xorg. I have installed the > "Keyboard Layout Handler" applet, and I am attempting to use the French and > Latin American keyboard layouts. Single-keystroke characters, such as ñ οr > ç work j

Locales, Keyboard Layouts

2016-06-09 Thread Levi Darrell
Hi Debian Users List, I am using the lxde desktop environment with xorg. I have installed the "Keyboard Layout Handler" applet, and I am attempting to use the French and Latin American keyboard layouts. Single-keystroke characters, such as ñ οr ç work just fine, but I am having difficulty inputtin

Re: Setting locales on Debian

2013-08-06 Thread Bob Proulx
ult locale: No such file or directory > > locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory > > C > > POSIX > > Normally, this would be a case of > > # dpkg-reconfigure locales > > However, > > > rc locales 2.11.3-4

Re: Setting locales on Debian

2013-08-06 Thread Slavko
No such file or directory > locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory > C > POSIX have you installed the en-GB locales? Something similar happens to me, when i had installed only sk-SK locales. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Descrip

Re: Setting locales on Debian

2013-08-05 Thread Claudius Hubig
ory > locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory > C > POSIX Normally, this would be a case of # dpkg-reconfigure locales However, > rc locales 2.11.3-4 Embedded GNU C Library: […] indicates that for some reason, locales

Setting locales on Debian

2013-08-05 Thread Fred White
default locale: No such file or directory C POSIX but when I do # locale-gen -bash: locale-gen: command not found. Now it seems that I cannot install the locale-gen but locale is install /# dpkg -l locales Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half

Re: Is it safe to remove /usr/share/locale after 'locales' package is removed

2012-09-17 Thread lee
Zsolt Ero writes: > My question is that is it safe to remove the all the leftover file > from /usr/share/locale after removing the locales package? Where do these files come from? Shouldn't they have been removed when purging the package? Do they belong to another package?

Re: Is it safe to remove /usr/share/locale after 'locales' package is removed

2012-09-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Sep 2012 at 17:22:16 +, Camaleón wrote: > Google points to a tool called "localepurge", available from the usual > repositories. Before manually removing folders that where not purged > after the locale packages have been removed, I would look at this, just > to get a second opini

Re: Is it safe to remove /usr/share/locale after 'locales' package is removed

2012-09-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-09-17 19:22 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:47:23 +0200, Zsolt Ero wrote: > > (...) > >> My question is that is it safe to remove the all the leftover file from >> /usr/share/locale after removing the locales package? >> >> Or are th

Re: Is it safe to remove /usr/share/locale after 'locales' package is removed

2012-09-17 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:47:23 +0200, Zsolt Ero wrote: (...) > My question is that is it safe to remove the all the leftover file from > /usr/share/locale after removing the locales package? > > Or are those files required for anything else? (...) Google points to a tool called

Is it safe to remove /usr/share/locale after 'locales' package is removed

2012-09-17 Thread Zsolt Ero
I'm trying to make a minimalistic Debian install for a low-mem VPS box. I'll be uninstalling the locales package, as there is no need for any kind of locale support for my purposes (only a few server programs, English only is perfectly enough). My question is that is it safe to remove t

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-05 Thread Camaleón
to ignore certain characters. Try filtering the output > through, for example, 's/[_|"|,]//g' and the you get it in the right > order. Yes, "sort" documentation and man page advice about that (to avoid custom locales while using it), but what (an how) it really does when

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote: > I'm trying to "reverse-engineering" the logic behind the sort but I can't > see it. Maybe it is done randomly? Very curious, indeed. It is "dictionary" sort ordering as specified by the locale. Case is folded and punctuation is (mostly) ignored. Personally I always set the fol

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread David Jardine
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:55:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:23:27 +0100, Rob Gom wrote: > > > [cut] > >> > >> I'm also getting that behaviour (locale set to "es_ES.UTF-8") so I > >> understand that my locale setting dictates "underscore" ("_") comes > >> first than "comma" (

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:23:27 +0100, Rob Gom wrote: > [cut] >> >> I'm also getting that behaviour (locale set to "es_ES.UTF-8") so I >> understand that my locale setting dictates "underscore" ("_") comes >> first than "comma" (",") symbol. >> >> As per "man sort" page: >> >> *** WARNING *** The loc

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Rob Gom
I have some form of workaround. When I know sort field separator (which was the case in my original example), I can use that to overcome the limitations with: $ LC_ALL=pl_PL.UTF-8 sort -k1,1 -t',' test.csv aph3,"APP","" aph3,"MiB","" aph3_devel,"TXT","" # everything fine $ LC_ALL=pl_PL.UTF-8 sort

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Rob Gom
One more thing. If I specify LC_COLLATE to C/POSIX, special characters sorting looks fine, but I lose Polish characters ordering. If I specify LC_COLLATE to pl_PL.UTF-8, Polish characters ordering is fine, but sorting goes crazy with special characters. Is it possible to retain both features then?

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Rob Gom
[cut] > > This is covered by the coreutils FAQ: > http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Sort-does-not-sort-in-normal-order_0021 > > Sven > Thanks for all the answers. How could I know that collate is defined correctly? I understand LC_COLLATE influence on sort operation, but

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-11-04 20:29 +0100, Rob Gom wrote: > Hi all, > do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)? > > $ cat test.csv > aph3,"APP","" > aph3_devel,"TXT","" > aph3,"MiB","" > > $ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected > aph3,"APP","" > aph3,"MiB","" > aph3_devel,"TXT","" > > $ LC_ALL=pl_P

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Rob Gom
[cut] > > I'm also getting that behaviour (locale set to "es_ES.UTF-8") so I > understand that my locale setting dictates "underscore" ("_") comes first > than "comma" (",") symbol. > > As per "man sort" page: > > *** WARNING *** The locale specified by the environment affects sort > order. Set LC_

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/04/2010 02:29 PM, Rob Gom wrote: Hi all, do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)? $ cat test.csv aph3,"APP","" aph3_devel,"TXT","" aph3,"MiB","" $ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected aph3,"APP","" aph3,"MiB","" aph3_devel,"TXT","" $ LC_ALL=pl_PL sort test.csv # why is t

Re: Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:29:02 +0100, Rob Gom wrote: > do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)? > > $ cat test.csv > aph3,"APP","" > aph3_devel,"TXT","" > aph3,"MiB","" > > $ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected > aph3,"APP","" > aph3,"MiB","" > aph3_devel,"TXT","" > > $ LC_ALL=pl

Locales/sort bug

2010-11-04 Thread Rob Gom
Hi all, do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)? $ cat test.csv aph3,"APP","" aph3_devel,"TXT","" aph3,"MiB","" $ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected aph3,"APP","" aph3,"MiB","" aph3_devel,"TXT","" $ LC_ALL=pl_PL sort test.csv # why is that? aph3,"APP","" aph3_devel,"TXT","" ap

Re: belocs-locales-bin broken

2010-04-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 10:15:24 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:48 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Sunday 25 April 2010 07:45:28 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > Is something broken in the belocs-locales-bin package? Thanks - John > &g

Re: belocs-locales-bin broken

2010-04-27 Thread John A. Sullivan III
> be_BY.UTF-8... up-to-date > > be_by.ut...@latin... up-to-date > > ber_DZ.UTF-8... cannot open locale definition file `ber_DZ': No such > > file or directory > > This locale may not be supported by belocs-locales-bin; check > /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORT

Re: belocs-locales-bin broken

2010-04-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
.. cannot open locale definition file `ber_DZ': No such > file or directory This locale may not be supported by belocs-locales-bin; check /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED. > dpkg: error processing belocs-locales-bin (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit

belocs-locales-bin broken

2010-04-25 Thread John A. Sullivan III
ssing belocs-locales-bin (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4 Errors were encountered while processing: belocs-locales-bin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Is something broken in the belocs-locales-bin package? Thanks - John -

Re: Why can't I reinstall locales? [SOLVED]

2010-04-01 Thread Florian Kulzer
This works without issue because the package dependency 'glibc-2.7-1' is a > dummy package, and the real package that locales really requires is > already installed, but the installer doesn't know this. > > This issue may also exist because of a system that was upgraded (this

Re: Why can't I reinstall locales? [SOLVED]

2010-04-01 Thread Ernie Dunbar
ckage, and the real package that locales really requires is already installed, but the installer doesn't know this. This issue may also exist because of a system that was upgraded (this system used to run Etch) or one that is in limbo between Testing and Stable (which may be the case here, but

Re: Why can't I reinstall locales?

2010-04-01 Thread Ernie Dunbar
er.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2010-0015> >> - locales, libc6 (remotely exploitable, medium urgency) >> >> >> And I figure, it's a good time to upgrade locales. Apt-get upgrade doesn't >> think this needs to be upgraded, so I manually remove it and then try t

Re: Why can't I reinstall locales?

2010-04-01 Thread Ernie Dunbar
> On 2010-03-31 16:50, Ernie Dunbar wrote: >> So today, Debsecan warns me about this issue: >> >> CVE-2010-0015 nis/nss_nis/nis-pwd.c in the GNU C Library (aka glibc... >> <http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2010-0015> >> - locales, libc

Re: Why can't I reinstall locales?

2010-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-03-31 16:50, Ernie Dunbar wrote: So today, Debsecan warns me about this issue: CVE-2010-0015 nis/nss_nis/nis-pwd.c in the GNU C Library (aka glibc... <http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2010-0015> - locales, libc6 (remotely exploitable, medium urgency) And I

Why can't I reinstall locales?

2010-03-31 Thread Ernie Dunbar
So today, Debsecan warns me about this issue: CVE-2010-0015 nis/nss_nis/nis-pwd.c in the GNU C Library (aka glibc... <http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2010-0015> - locales, libc6 (remotely exploitable, medium urgency) And I figure, it's a good time to upgrade local

Re: Lenny. Locales and Interface Language

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > > Thanks for your time and such in-deep explanation! -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: Lenny. Locales and Interface Language

2009-05-18 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
anging the locale". AFAIK the "locale" *mainly* determines the user interface. Messages and prompts from programs, date and currency formats, paper size (eg "Letter" for US locales), number format (e.g. thousands separator is comma in some locales, period in others), etc. Note t

Lenny. Locales and Interface Language

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Goldshtein
Hello, list! Would you, please, help me to explain how locales work in Lenny? I have checked docs but something remains unclear. If you have time, please, answer a few questions below: 1. Is a default system locale independent from an interface language? I mean, is it possible to change a

Re: All locales in /usr/share/locale

2009-04-26 Thread Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक]
2009/4/27 Nuno Magalhães : >>  dpkg-reconfigure locales >> >> Unselect the locales you don't want, then run localeourge again. > > That's the whole point: i've never selected all locales in the first > place, only 2. > > -- > ()  ascii ribbon

Re: All locales in /usr/share/locale

2009-04-26 Thread Nuno Magalhães
>  dpkg-reconfigure locales > > Unselect the locales you don't want, then run localeourge again. That's the whole point: i've never selected all locales in the first place, only 2. -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ ascii-rubanda kampajno - kontraŭ

Re: All locales in /usr/share/locale

2009-04-26 Thread s. keeling
Nuno Magalhães : > > Technicly, can i safely remove unused locales? I do use localepurge > (on the new system since isntall), but there don't seem to be included > in the process. dpkg-reconfigure locales Unselect the locales you don't want, then run localeourge again

All locales in /usr/share/locale

2009-04-25 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Greetings earthlings. While crusing around i came across /usr/share/locale. Now, i only installed 2 locales, yet my system had... a whole lot. It's an old system, so i checked a freshly installed laptop - same thing: roughly 150 locale directories. Why's that? I know 3.6MB is not m

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-20 Thread Teemu Likonen
Osamu Aoki (2009-01-21 00:43 +0900) wrote: > New corresponding pages are: > http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch02.en.html#timestamps > (released package too) > http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch10.en.html#customizeddisplayoftimeanddate > (new after this posting) P

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
| Jan 19 2007 > C | Jan 19 2007 | Jan 19 2007 > > My state of confusion started this morning, when I was confronted with a > POSIX/C style date format using the German locales on lenny. As you can see > from the table, in lenny suddenly some locales seem to have changed from ISO

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-20 Thread bugtrac...@slideomania.com
ale' time style now > | behaves like 'posix-long-iso' if your locale settings appear to be messed > | up. This change > | attempts to have the default be the best of both worlds. > > ` > > The locales did not change, just the behavior of ls. > > Sven

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread h...@slideomania.com
Am Montag, 19. Januar 2009 22:15, schrieb Sven Joachim: > On 2009-01-19 21:59 +0100, bugtrac...@slideomania.com wrote: > > My state of confusion started this morning, when I was confronted with a > > POSIX/C style date format using the German locales on lenny. As you can > &g

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread bugtrac...@slideomania.com
Am Montag, 19. Januar 2009 15:47, schrieb Sven Joachim: > On 2009-01-19 15:17 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > Osamu Aoki wrote: > >> It was important to use en_IE when we were using non-UTF-8 locales. > >> > >> Now even en_US.UTF-8 gives nice "20

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-01-19 21:59 +0100, bugtrac...@slideomania.com wrote: > My state of confusion started this morning, when I was confronted with a > POSIX/C style date format using the German locales on lenny. As you can see > from the table, in lenny suddenly some locales seem to have changed

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread bugtrac...@slideomania.com
Am Montag, 19. Januar 2009 14:31, schrieb Johannes Wiedersich: > > etch: »31.12.2008 12:34« to > > lenny: »13. Dez 12:34« and (IMO abdominable...!): > > lenny: »13. Dez 2006« (for older entries) > > That looks horrible, indeed. > > > Is there an easy way to get back my desired format as it has bee

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread bugtrac...@slideomania.com
d this morning. The claim that for etch with German locales the date display format would be like above simply isn't true at all. My apologies, dunno how this came to my mind - perhaps a DOS console clawed it's way up from the abyss... Now for some reality checks. I'm comparing t

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:47:24PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-01-19 15:17 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > > Osamu Aoki wrote: > >> It was important to use en_IE when we were using non-UTF-8 locales. > >> > >> Now even en_US.UTF-

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:17:12PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > It was important to use en_IE when we were using non-UTF-8 locales. > > > > Now even en_US.UTF-8 gives nice "2008-12-29 05:43" display. > > IIUC, OP wants "29.1

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-01-19 15:17 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Osamu Aoki wrote: >> It was important to use en_IE when we were using non-UTF-8 locales. >> >> Now even en_US.UTF-8 gives nice "2008-12-29 05:43" display. > > IIUC, OP wants "29.12.2008 05:43&q

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Osamu Aoki wrote: > It was important to use en_IE when we were using non-UTF-8 locales. > > Now even en_US.UTF-8 gives nice "2008-12-29 05:43" display. IIUC, OP wants "29.12.2008 05:43" instead. He uses "2008-12-29

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
rkaround, I changed LC_TIME to "en_US.UTF-8", as this provides me at > > least with an ISO-8601-conform format, but I'd prefer the numerical display > > for german like it has been on etch. > > This looks promising > > http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01

Re: [locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 bugtrac...@slideomania.com wrote: > Hi list, > > I recently noticed (took a while of head-scratching like "WTF? Something is > very weird here, but what is it?") that after the upgrade from etch to lenny, > the default display format for date/time w

[locales] change date/time display format for german locale in lenny like it has been on etch

2009-01-19 Thread bugtrac...@slideomania.com
Hi list, I recently noticed (took a while of head-scratching like "WTF? Something is very weird here, but what is it?") that after the upgrade from etch to lenny, the default display format for date/time when doing a "ls -al" for the german locale unfortunately changed from etch: »31.12.2008 1

Re: Illegal locales?

2008-05-06 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 02:26:40PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I noticed that my locale definitions are not defined in the available > system locales: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8&q

Illegal locales?

2008-05-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
I noticed that my locale definitions are not defined in the available system locales: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8&q

Re: Problem with console and locales [SOLVED]

2008-02-04 Thread Andres Migliazzo
Awesome!! Thank you very much Mr. Florian Kulzer! You hit the nail on the head, plus you explained the issue in a very clear and easy way. I'll convert all my files to utf8, set my editors correctly and ofcourse add that package into my tex files header. I'm happy now. :D Cheers!

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-02-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
[ Please put your answers/reactions in the quoted older message instead of on top of it. This makes it easier for the other people on the list (who may not remember our earlier conversation) to follow the discussion. ] On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 21:23:35 -0200, Andres Migliazzo wrote: > Awesome

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-02-03 Thread Andres Migliazzo
Awesome... we are on the road now, I've tried console-setup package in combination with the console-terminus fonts as you told me, but the issue still remains. When I use "more" I see a "white square" instead of "á - ú or ñ" characters, and when I check the text file with aspell it does not show t

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-02-03 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 21:03:30 -0200, Andres Migliazzo wrote: [...] > I have a similar question... I'm wondering if is doable to set up your > debian system in English and read special characters (like á-ú,ñ) in the tty > console. Yes, that is possible. You need an English locale that allows y

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-01-30 Thread Andres Migliazzo
> > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 21:59:13 -0600, Alejandro Aguila Sáinz wrote: > > > Hi, now I sent dpkg-reconfigure again and I get this: > > > > > > debian:/home/alekz# dpkg-reconfigure locales > > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. >

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Csanyi
2008/1/22, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [ Please stop top-posting. ] > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 21:59:13 -0600, Alejandro Aguila Sáinz wrote: > > Hi, now I sent dpkg-reconfigure again and I get this: > > > > debian:/home/alekz# dpkg-reconfigure locales

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-01-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
[ Please stop top-posting. ] On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 21:59:13 -0600, Alejandro Aguila Sáinz wrote: > Hi, now I sent dpkg-reconfigure again and I get this: > > debian:/home/alekz# dpkg-reconfigure locales > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check t

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-01-21 Thread Alejandro Aguila Sáinz
On 1/21/08, Lennart Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Alejandro Aguila Sáinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-21 21:59-0600] > >Hi, now I sent dpkg-reconfigure again and I get this: > >debian:/home/alekz# dpkg-reconfigure locales > >perl: warning

Re: Problem with console and locales

2008-01-21 Thread Alejandro Aguila Sáinz
Hi, now I sent dpkg-reconfigure again and I get this: debian:/home/alekz# dpkg-reconfigure locales perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "Es_es", LC_ALL = "Es_es", LANG = "es_

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