Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-31 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:34:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 31 Jul 2012 at 10:56:09 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> > Yes, I read about it. But this warning has to be new or at least I >> > don't recall GRUB legacy showing this notice when you wer

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-31 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Jul 2012 at 10:56:09 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > > Yes, I read about it. But this warning has to be new or at least I don't > > recall GRUB legacy showing this notice when you were going to install > > GRUB into a partition instead the M

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-31 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:03:12 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure to had

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:03:12 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you pro

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you >>> provide a user case for someone using block lists and another c

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you >> provide a user case for someone using block lists and another case when >> they're not in use? > > I've explained twic

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Which, generally speaking, it translates into...? I mean, what are >>> those "block lists" and how are they effectively affecting the boo

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: >> >> Thanks for the info and the links. You've misunderstood me. I didn't >> say that Linux could boot without a bootloader. I said that I didn't >> understand the purpose of the "Gene

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:09:54 +0100, Dom wrote: > On 16/07/12 15:41, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: (...) >>> Block lists are supposed to be less reliable/more fragile/(fill in >>> with the negative flavor that suits you). >> >> I'm not sure to had get it (sor

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Jul 2012 at 17:09:54 +0100, Dom wrote: > On 16/07/12 15:41, Camaleón wrote: > > > >I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you > >provide a user case for someone using block lists and another case when > >they're not in use? > > > > As I understand it, when GRU

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Dom
On 16/07/12 15:41, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: Which, generally speaking, it translates into...? I mean, what are those "block lists" and how are they effectively affecting the boot process from a user's

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> Which, generally speaking, it translates into...? I mean, what are >> those "block lists" and how are they effectively affecting the boot >> process from a user's point of view? > > Let's ass

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-15 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Reading from GRUB's legacy documentation¹, I see none listed. However, >>> GRUB2 manual² does not even mention the possibility of install

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-15 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: > > Thanks for the info and the links. You've misunderstood me. I didn't > say that Linux could boot without a bootloader. I said that I didn't > understand the purpose of the "Generic Boot Code" since other > distributions don't use it when i

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Reading from GRUB's legacy documentation¹, I see none listed. However, >> GRUB2 manual² does not even mention the possibility of installing GRUB2 >> into the first boot sector of a parti

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:31:36 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: > AFAIK this calls for block list based installation of GRUB 2 which is > not recommended cause it introduces the same issues than map

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:14:47 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: > > *** > Write Generic Boot Code to MBR > Replaces the current MBR with generic, operating system independent code. > *** > > Why this option? I can't tell and I don't know (because I have not directly > tested) if there's any differenc

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:31:36 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) AFAIK this calls for block list based installation of GRUB 2 which is not recommended cause it introduces the same issues than map file in LILO. >> >> I don't know what you m

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:06:55 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Martin Steigerwald >> wrote: Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: Thanks for the explanation. I asked because if what you wanted is kee

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:06:55 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Martin Steigerwald > wrote: >>> Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: (...) >>> Thanks for the explanation. I asked because if what you wanted is >>> keeping things separate (e.g., windows and linuxes boxe

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: >>> >>> Because it works for me. I've kept installs of previous versions of >>> Debian on separate partitions for reference as well as the fact that >>> by doing so I'll have a working install

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: > > Because it works for me. I've kept installs of previous versions of > > Debian on separate partitions for reference as well as the fact that > > by doing so I'll have a working install while getting a newer version > > setup. Also when I first started

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2012-07-06, Mike McClain wrote: > I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of > Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. I am able to boot linux from DOS using a boot loader from Gujin where loadlin has failed with big kernels. See http://guji

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-07 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-07-07 a las 10:01 -0700, Mike McClain escribió: (resending to the list) > Hello, > > I've noted from your posts that you're pretty savvy so I'm sorry > you have no experience in this area but I'm happy to answer your > questions. Thanks for your kind words; experience is a rank and

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:19:20 -0400 (EDT), Mike McClain wrote: > > I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of > Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. > > The flip side of the issue is that grub2 resets the computer > trying to launch kernels that l

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:19:20 -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of > Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. I never used loadlin before so I can't be of much help here. But, just out of curiosity, may I ask you

Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-06 Thread Mike McClain
Howdy, I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. The flip side of the issue is that grub2 resets the computer trying to launch kernels that loadlin launches with no problem. Can anyone point me a